[Patch 3.10: Yimake Patch] General Discussion - Page 93

On August 04 2013 03:49 UniversalSnip wrote:
So is it correct to think they've just written off the current warmogs as a failed experiment?

On August 04 2013 03:49 Alaric wrote:
Grats, you probably have a fourth of an army now. Not accounting for paint cost and stuff.

On August 04 2013 03:10 sylverfyre wrote:
ONE HP5 IS NOT FUCKING WORTH 36 GOLD. Nobody buys rejuv beads for HP5. Nobody even bought Regrowths just for HP Regen.

HP5 is literally the WORST stat to look at gold/stat comparison because it doesnt have a linear effect over the course of the game. It also doesn't have a linear cost/stat ratio. Other stats get SLIGHTLY more efficient as the quality of item improves. HP5 doesn't even care what the regen on the bead is, you literally get more of it for free. And the thing is, the freeness of it isn't OP cost-effectiveness, it's basically required to keep HP5 even remotely relevant at all.

You have to sit on a rejuv bead for 12 minutes of not-100%-health time (so in actuality, a lot longer than 12 minutes) in order for it to be merely cost-even with a health potion. Rejuv beads are not cost-efficient.

On August 04 2013 03:54 cLutZ wrote:

I have to think so. Even against balanced comps it is rare.

I don't know why or to fix it.

On August 04 2013 04:12 Seuss wrote:


The problem with Warmog's is that you don't need to itemize for Health on tanks. Practically every other tank item in the game gives Health (except Thornmail), so buying an item which is essentially nothing but Health isn't that useful. Why buy Warmog's + Thornmail when you can buy Randuin's + Spirit Visage and have almost as much Health in addition to CDR and super useful passives/actives?

On August 04 2013 03:54 cLutZ wrote:

I have to think so. Even against balanced comps it is rare.

I don't know why or to fix it.

On August 04 2013 04:26 Seuss wrote:
I think what we can learn from this page is that there are a billion reasons why Warmog's sucks.

Edit: 0.5% more regeneration isn't going to fix it.

On August 04 2013 04:32 Ketara wrote:
Giving it the 0.5% regen back wouldn't be bad, though.

It seems a little weird to me that it went from all Warmogs on everyone all the time at the beginning of season 3 to it being a crap item with such small nerfs. Seems like it was more differences in armor penetration and teamcomps than changes to Warmogs that killed it.

It's probably still a strong item if the enemy team is Jarvan Renekton Khazix MF Taric

On August 04 2013 04:34 Shikyo wrote:

That might be correct, it could help if it instead gained health/health regen from minion kills or over time and had a lower starting hp and higher ending hp, just so that rushing it didn't make you totally impossible to kill and so that it scales well into lategame.

Oh wait -.- the old WM was way better


I think it was the BotRK change actually

On August 04 2013 04:12 Seuss wrote:


The problem with Warmog's is that you don't need to itemize for Health on tanks. Practically every other tank item in the game gives Health (except Thornmail), so buying an item which is essentially nothing but Health isn't that useful. Why buy Warmog's + Thornmail when you can buy Randuin's + Spirit Visage and have almost as much Health in addition to CDR, resists, and super useful passives/actives?

On August 04 2013 05:43 Feartheguru wrote:


This is just not true. Warmogs has always just given health and was super popular for YEARS. New items and nerf to it made it unpopular. Your reason is completely made up logic that on the surface seems intelligent but is nevertheless B.S.