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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 04 2013 01:50 GMT
#1881
On August 04 2013 10:31 Ares[Effort] wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1jnm0b/curse_partners_with_nissan/

That's great and all, but just out of curiosity what is more money going to do for Curse? They already have a great teamhouse, and seem pretty secure financially as well.

This is more of an open question than criticism btw :D
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 04 2013 01:57 GMT
#1882
On August 04 2013 10:50 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 10:31 Ares[Effort] wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1jnm0b/curse_partners_with_nissan/

That's great and all, but just out of curiosity what is more money going to do for Curse? They already have a great teamhouse, and seem pretty secure financially as well.

This is more of an open question than criticism btw :D

Curse is a big organization, having Nissan sponsor their LoL team is still good for the company overall, even if the team doesn't really need anything else.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 04 2013 02:01 GMT
#1883
Money for players who have 5 or fewer years in a career?
Freeeeeeedom
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 04 2013 02:11 GMT
#1884
wow im actually getting +1/-5 now kill me please
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
August 04 2013 02:24 GMT
#1885
On August 04 2013 11:11 FinestHour wrote:
wow im actually getting +1/-5 now kill me please

Stay strong brother the key is winning streaks
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 02:28:21
August 04 2013 02:27 GMT
#1886
On August 04 2013 10:31 Ares[Effort] wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1jnm0b/curse_partners_with_nissan/

Why Nissan why? I mean I love Curse and all; but holy shit after this 0-3 week; they do not deserve a tier-s sponsor.
On August 04 2013 11:11 FinestHour wrote:
wow im actually getting +1/-5 now kill me please

You at Div 1, and around 80-90+ points?
liftlift > tsm
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
August 04 2013 02:37 GMT
#1887
On August 04 2013 11:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 10:31 Ares[Effort] wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1jnm0b/curse_partners_with_nissan/

Why Nissan why? I mean I love Curse and all; but holy shit after this 0-3 week; they do not deserve a tier-s sponsor.

Established organization with good branding and marketing efforts, and Curse Inc. is larger than just the LoL team.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
August 04 2013 02:39 GMT
#1888
On August 04 2013 10:57 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 10:50 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On August 04 2013 10:31 Ares[Effort] wrote:
http://www.reddit.com /r/leagueoflegends/comments/1jnm0b/curse_partners_with_nissan/

That's great and all, but just out of curiosity what is more money going to do for Curse? They already have a great teamhouse, and seem pretty secure financially as well.

This is more of an open question than criticism btw :D

Curse is a big organization, having Nissan sponsor their LoL team is still good for the company overall, even if the team doesn't really need anything else.

inb4 Saintvicious got a role of villain in Fast and Furious 7
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 04 2013 02:39 GMT
#1889
On August 04 2013 11:37 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 11:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 04 2013 10:31 Ares[Effort] wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1jnm0b/curse_partners_with_nissan/

Why Nissan why? I mean I love Curse and all; but holy shit after this 0-3 week; they do not deserve a tier-s sponsor.

Established organization with good branding and marketing efforts, and Curse Inc. is larger than just the LoL team.

I know. But, just doesn't deserve it imo.
At least now Curse can actually afford to pay for the alcohol expenses. hue.
liftlift > tsm
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 04 2013 02:43 GMT
#1890
On August 04 2013 11:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 11:37 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On August 04 2013 11:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 04 2013 10:31 Ares[Effort] wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1jnm0b/curse_partners_with_nissan/

Why Nissan why? I mean I love Curse and all; but holy shit after this 0-3 week; they do not deserve a tier-s sponsor.

Established organization with good branding and marketing efforts, and Curse Inc. is larger than just the LoL team.

I know. But, just doesn't deserve it imo.
At least now Curse can actually afford to pay for the alcohol expenses. hue.


Curse is a gigantic general web/gaming brand, Nissan didn't do this for Team Curse in LCS, they did it so they can get their brand on a ton of high traffic gaming sites.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 02:47:24
August 04 2013 02:44 GMT
#1891
On August 04 2013 11:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 10:31 Ares[Effort] wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1jnm0b/curse_partners_with_nissan/

Why Nissan why? I mean I love Curse and all; but holy shit after this 0-3 week; they do not deserve a tier-s sponsor.


On August 04 2013 10:50 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 10:31 Ares[Effort] wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1jnm0b/curse_partners_with_nissan/

That's great and all, but just out of curiosity what is more money going to do for Curse?


wow shame on you guys! (forgiven though, ghandi, for at least saying it's just a question)
first of all, don't misconstrue what sponsors are for - they're not paying players for wins. a partnership with curse is a way for nissan to reach a gaming audience. did you click that reddit thread? did you then click on liquid's tweet? did you then click on his stream? did you see the link at the top of his stream and did you follow that to the nissan promotional event thing? a small % of you did (or will). and a small % of the people that do all that will then buy a nissan or donate $1000 to charity or w/e it was. that's what's known as a conversion rate. companies will want to get involved in esports because we as fans have an extreme loyalty to our teams and will often follow or buy things that they suggest to us, which is awesome for having a high conversion rate. the more outreach a team has, the more potential buyers/subscribers/whatever can be reached as well. and have you looked at curse's outreach lately?

edward has 40k twitter followers
liquid had 16k
saint has 85k
voyboy has NINETY-THREE-THOUSAND FOLLOWERS
this doesn't even consider their twitch subs, facebook fans, etc etc.

that's like, insanely high. and every time they tweet "come check out my jungleology guide sponsored by full sail!" that's free advertising pumped right into your eyeballs... and you REQUESTED that ad by following them.

and what's more, this deal has been in the works since before this split, i assure you. possibly since before the first split. it's not like nissan was waiting for curse to break .500 or it all hinged on a single week's games LOL

and about the "more money for curse big deal" question, you just have to realize that what's good for Crs is good for CLG is good for Velocity is good for TBD is good for whatever team tries to make LCS through ranked 5s next split. this just adds another weapon to all of our arsenal when we approach potential sponsors: "nissan sponsors one of our competitors, team curse" has a LOT of weight behind it. why is nissan in esports? is it profitable? is it easy? is it a new trend? it makes potential sponsors ask themselves these questions, and the more time they spend looking at the stats and understanding the growth of esports, the better. so no matter who you root for you should be extremely happy about this announcement! nissan is doing great things for esports


the only time the success of one team is not a success for all teams is when one team has to cannibalize another or directly hurts another team to get their own progress. if you ever have a situation where one team offers to "help" another team with sponsorships but wants a large cut of their own (maybe they've maxed out on sponsor slots), or if you see one team promoting their team in a way that squashes another team, THAT'S when it's a bad thing. but i've not really seen that in league too much, so that's good
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 04 2013 02:46 GMT
#1892
I don't think anyone disagrees with that; and yes I was aware how established Curse is. But, really, does it not irk anyone that Curse been on a downward spiral and they get awarded a fatty paycheck?
liftlift > tsm
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51586 Posts
August 04 2013 02:50 GMT
#1893
does everyone on curse get a free nissan leaf or something
Commentator
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
August 04 2013 02:50 GMT
#1894
it's awesome that esports is getting mainstream enough that huge sponsors like nissan are getting into it. this is a good thing for esports in general~
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 04 2013 02:51 GMT
#1895
On August 04 2013 11:50 GTR wrote:
does everyone on curse get a free nissan leaf or something

What if it was free GT-R's?
liftlift > tsm
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 04 2013 02:57 GMT
#1896
We don't know how much Curse is getting paid. Just because they have a big sponsor does not necessarily mean they get a large sponsorship award. More big companies should tackle advertising through Esports while it's cheap.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 04 2013 02:57 GMT
#1897
On August 04 2013 11:46 wei2coolman wrote:
I don't think anyone disagrees with that; and yes I was aware how established Curse is. But, really, does it not irk anyone that Curse been on a downward spiral and they get awarded a fatty paycheck?

Not really. Still gonna have to fight through relegation most likely. I bet the players would take a spot in Season 4 over some extra cash. Also I don't really have a problem separating the players performances from the brand presence they provide, but then again I'm majoring in advertising so that's sorta what I do.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 04 2013 03:05 GMT
#1898
On August 04 2013 11:57 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 11:46 wei2coolman wrote:
I don't think anyone disagrees with that; and yes I was aware how established Curse is. But, really, does it not irk anyone that Curse been on a downward spiral and they get awarded a fatty paycheck?

Not really. Still gonna have to fight through relegation most likely. I bet the players would take a spot in Season 4 over some extra cash. Also I don't really have a problem separating the players performances from the brand presence they provide, but then again I'm majoring in advertising so that's sorta what I do.

Maybe the people who manage curse are more proactive at finding sponsors than say the more popular CLG or TSM managers.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 03:07:31
August 04 2013 03:06 GMT
#1899
On August 04 2013 11:46 wei2coolman wrote:
I don't think anyone disagrees with that; and yes I was aware how established Curse is. But, really, does it not irk anyone that Curse been on a downward spiral and they get awarded a fatty paycheck?

Who says the players are getting paid for this? The organization as a whole benefits, but given we have no idea the contractual agreements behind the scenes (at least, I don't), there's no reason to assume the players will get a raise, so to speak. At least, not significantly.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 04 2013 03:10 GMT
#1900
On August 04 2013 11:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 10:31 Ares[Effort] wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1jnm0b/curse_partners_with_nissan/

Why Nissan why? I mean I love Curse and all; but holy shit after this 0-3 week; they do not deserve a tier-s sponsor.
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 11:11 FinestHour wrote:
wow im actually getting +1/-5 now kill me please

You at Div 1, and around 80-90+ points?


ya i got placed in silver 3 and moved up to silver 1 in 5 days and been stuck there now i at 94 game thinks i got carried by luck or something
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