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No more bad posting
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
August 17 2013 04:08 GMT
#5461
On August 17 2013 12:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 12:26 ketchup wrote:
On August 17 2013 12:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
Fuck why am I so bad at this.

Alright real LoL talk, my internet at the new place sucks, LoL lags like a bitch. Trying to convince my roommates to upgrade it.


How can LoL lag? Do you mean the east coast lag or the real lag?


lol fuck you you dont know the pain of 5 fps LoL


lol, but i do know the pain of east coast skipping. I can handle consistent skipping, but I cannot handle bursts of freezing that usually occurs during team fights.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 17 2013 04:08 GMT
#5462
On August 17 2013 11:49 Seuss wrote:
Coming here to say that jungle Alistar is legit. His CC and tower diving ability are still ridiculous, and he's such a crazy disruptor in teamfights. Golem -> Aegis/Locket is also really strong (70% damage reduction on a 150+ health shield OP), and from there you can just build whatever.


Also Shurleyas

If you get build build boots and double dragonballs for maximum manhood.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 17 2013 04:23 GMT
#5463
When you hold a lane as a jungler, how do you do it?

If an ally dies or goes back and the enemy is not there anymore, do you take as much cs as possible?
As little as possible?
Or just stop it from going under tower and then go back to jungling?

What if your red buff is up and you see the enemy jungler heading for it?
Or your blue buff?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 17 2013 04:25 GMT
#5464
I usually just last hit in a way that should make the wave push toward my laner. If I can't I equalise the wave. If it's pushing I straight-up shove it.
I tend to lose control over buffs that way but I can't control when my allies fuck up and die, and in soloQ having them not freak out is more important than a buff. Still annoys me, even worse when it's dragon.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 17 2013 04:32 GMT
#5465
On August 17 2013 13:23 obesechicken13 wrote:
When you hold a lane as a jungler, how do you do it?

If an ally dies or goes back and the enemy is not there anymore, do you take as much cs as possible?
As little as possible?
Or just stop it from going under tower and then go back to jungling?

What if your red buff is up and you see the enemy jungler heading for it?
Or your blue buff?


On the first topic, if it's 1-2 waves, and I can even it out, I'll take whatever I can or push it to turret.

If it's 2 or more waves, I'll do my best to slow the wave from hitting turret. You can't take that much CS without screwing your laner over. It's much better to just go to the lane, help the dude clear it, and just let him base after sharing all that XP, and then just help the lane out later on. If it's already under tower though, it's hard to pull it out, and your laner is probably screwed.

Second topic. Ping like mad and get the team to go contest, or else give it up and see if I can get something else done.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 17 2013 04:34 GMT
#5466
On August 17 2013 13:32 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 13:23 obesechicken13 wrote:
When you hold a lane as a jungler, how do you do it?

If an ally dies or goes back and the enemy is not there anymore, do you take as much cs as possible?
As little as possible?
Or just stop it from going under tower and then go back to jungling?

What if your red buff is up and you see the enemy jungler heading for it?
Or your blue buff?


On the first topic, if it's 1-2 waves, and I can even it out, I'll take whatever I can or push it to turret.

If it's 2 or more waves, I'll do my best to slow the wave from hitting turret. You can't take that much CS without screwing your laner over. It's much better to just go to the lane, help the dude clear it, and just let him base after sharing all that XP, and then just help the lane out later on. If it's already under tower though, it's hard to pull it out, and your laner is probably screwed.

Second topic. Ping like mad and get the team to go contest, or else give it up and see if I can get something else done.

Thanks, yeah I got called out on it last game and I just want to make sure what I was doing was normal. It seems like there are a lot of weird cases that this is too situation dependent to analyze in a normal TL post.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 17 2013 04:38 GMT
#5467
Question for LoL GD: If you're against Yorick as Teemo, should you "counter" him by building Swifties or should you buy boots that will actually be useful?

I need to ask because the person recommending it is too much of a pansy to 1v1 me to see if his rationale in game.
It's your boy Guzma!
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
August 17 2013 04:39 GMT
#5468
Didn't we have a discussion on vlad vs zed? Well, CLG just picked vlad into zed, so we get to see what happens (and CLG thinks it's better for vlad).
Whaaaa?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35161 Posts
August 17 2013 04:50 GMT
#5469
On August 17 2013 12:38 Requizen wrote:
Comcast been crapping out on me too, dunno what it is.

It's a routing issue. Switch to Google DNS. Fixed things for me.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 17 2013 05:02 GMT
#5470
On August 17 2013 12:40 Aldrovandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 12:25 Alaric wrote:
Being meh*, sorry. I mean on champions like Lulu I kinda get it (esp. since I tend to get boots2 late on her, I usually do well so I buy shit like oracles and noone builds Locket so I build that and Ruby Sightstone and then I'm oom too and... welp, long story short it gives me more disengage on a champ made for it while allowing me to reach a fight without burning W for it when people all burn their dashes and shit).
But Fiddle's not the best for it, I'd rather get the Distortion enchant for more Flash fear or Twin Shadows for the slow, Shurelya feels awkward because he's so squishy that if he telegraphs "I'm going to run toward you" people can just turn and halve his health with long range stuff.


I think Fiddle is a special case as far as supports are concerned, he justs play so differently post-lane phase since you usually want to be more offensive with him but don't get the innate tankiness of a Leona or Thresh. I get Shurelya's pretty much always as Janna/Nami just because I've already got the philo stone and the active is still good for saving lives/ending the enemy's.

Really I wish Riot would just make more things similar to Shard with actives that no self-respecting solo laner would purchase because they give mediocre stats. Make Zeke's cheaper, remove the lifesteal from the aura and instead make it a single-target active that gives 25% lifesteal x seconds and can only be cast on someone else.

The ls great as an aura, the problem is cost plus 800 gold in camp before the aura.
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35161 Posts
August 17 2013 05:06 GMT
#5471
Rework on Rengar is turning him towards jungling(BTN building out of LS+Machete) and getting rid of his stealth.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3667905
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12500 Posts
August 17 2013 05:14 GMT
#5472
On August 17 2013 14:06 Gahlo wrote:
Rework on Rengar is turning him towards jungling(BTN building out of LS+Machete) and getting rid of his stealth.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3667905

this sucks
lane rengar was fun with bush ambushing.
I like that E change but probably too much of a nerf for rengar.
the ulti change, I am not too sure what to say, consuming all the points once activated means you can't just stealth and do a double Q right away. no more stealth makes it harder to leap to the right target too. oh well, I hope they do buff rengar in other areas. I feel like they are just changing his role completely with a minor nerf
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
August 17 2013 05:14 GMT
#5473
On August 17 2013 12:37 onlywonderboy wrote:
Nah, Time Warner. I just think it's slow. Only two guys were here over the summer and they had a pretty basic plan.

happening to me too
BW -> League -> CSGO
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35161 Posts
August 17 2013 05:16 GMT
#5474
On August 17 2013 14:14 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:06 Gahlo wrote:
Rework on Rengar is turning him towards jungling(BTN building out of LS+Machete) and getting rid of his stealth.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3667905

this sucks
lane rengar was fun with bush ambushing.
I like that E change but probably too much of a nerf for rengar.
the ulti change, I am not too sure what to say, consuming all the points once activated means you can't just stealth and do a double Q right away. no more stealth makes it harder to leap to the right target too. oh well, I hope they do buff rengar in other areas. I feel like they are just changing his role completely with a minor nerf

If the Q spam is anywhere near as strong as it looks, he won't change much play style wise outside of losing stealth.
.AK
Profile Joined September 2010
United States561 Posts
August 17 2013 05:16 GMT
#5475
I have the worst friends >.>
All hail the glorious I sell T.Vs at Best Buy || #1 REQUIZEN FANBOI || IGN: .AK/BEST ANTIMAGE NA || Plat IV ADC Main
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 17 2013 05:20 GMT
#5476
On August 17 2013 14:16 .AK wrote:
I have the worst friends >.>

HAHA I'm so glad you changed you signature.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 17 2013 05:25 GMT
#5477
On August 17 2013 13:39 Misder wrote:
Didn't we have a discussion on vlad vs zed? Well, CLG just picked vlad into zed, so we get to see what happens (and CLG thinks it's better for vlad).


Didn't see it, but I'd imagine vlad does fine. Pool>Zed ult is what I can make of it. Is there more to it?
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 17 2013 05:30 GMT
#5478
On August 17 2013 14:06 Gahlo wrote:
Rework on Rengar is turning him towards jungling(BTN building out of LS+Machete) and getting rid of his stealth.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3667905

I don't get the new ult. I guess it's for chasing now? I don't see much use for it otherwise, I guess as a jungler you can use it to zoom past wards like Hec or Rammus, but that's pretty lame. It's basically a glorified Ghost that gives you his passive jump. Q is whatever until we see numbers, W is kind of interesting but again will depend on numbers, E looks pretty nice now. I much prefer skillshots for this sort of things to catch people over walls and in bushes and what not.
It's your boy Guzma!
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
August 17 2013 05:45 GMT
#5479
On August 17 2013 13:50 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 12:38 Requizen wrote:
Comcast been crapping out on me too, dunno what it is.

It's a routing issue. Switch to Google DNS. Fixed things for me.


switching to google DNS has no impact on routing at all!

and almost definitely wouldn't fix any game-related issues since most games are pretty light on the DNS lookups!
:3
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 17 2013 05:47 GMT
#5480
On August 17 2013 14:16 .AK wrote:
I have the worst friends >.>

Welcome to the Req Fanclub. Population: .AK and Req

Enjoy your stay
+ Show Spoiler +
BECAUSE YOU'RE NEVER LEAVING.
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