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No more bad posting
Aldrovandi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States211 Posts
August 17 2013 03:03 GMT
#5441
I see. Maybe it just seemed counter-intuitive to me since I mostly play Janna and Nami and they get plenty of speed for free.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 03:22:10
August 17 2013 03:10 GMT
#5442
I'd love the HP from Kindlegem on Fiddle since he is so squishy, sadly it's expensive and I need MS to get in Fear range anyway. So I just get Ionan boots.

With Shurelya being meh, Twin Shadows providing no HP/armour, and Locket being raped by the changes, it's rather hard to itemise for Fiddle past the ruby sightstone, Ionan boots and the odd Kindlegem actually... even Twin Shadows is a "I'm fed" item, considering how expensive it is.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
August 17 2013 03:16 GMT
#5443
The best thing to build from your kindlegem on supports now is spirit of the ancient golen
Aldrovandi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States211 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 03:19:17
August 17 2013 03:18 GMT
#5444
Shurelya's being what?

I know what you mean about it being weird to itemize past those core items, before it used to be get whichever of bulwark/locket the jungler didn't get but now I'm left with all of these incredibly expensive options or Shard, which I hate buying since the ap isn't that useful.

Edit: I had not considered SotAG, that actually kind of makes sense.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 03:23:46
August 17 2013 03:20 GMT
#5445
Fuck why am I so bad at this.

Alright real LoL talk, my internet at the new place sucks, LoL lags like a bitch. Trying to convince my roommates to upgrade it.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 17 2013 03:23 GMT
#5446
On August 17 2013 12:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
For once I think they should have just stayed on Baron lol

Good disengage from Curse though.

Youre having thread troubles today lol
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 17 2013 03:23 GMT
#5447
On August 17 2013 12:23 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 12:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
For once I think they should have just stayed on Baron lol

Good disengage from Curse though.

Youre having thread troubles today lol

I FIXED IT
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 17 2013 03:25 GMT
#5448
Being meh*, sorry. I mean on champions like Lulu I kinda get it (esp. since I tend to get boots2 late on her, I usually do well so I buy shit like oracles and noone builds Locket so I build that and Ruby Sightstone and then I'm oom too and... welp, long story short it gives me more disengage on a champ made for it while allowing me to reach a fight without burning W for it when people all burn their dashes and shit).
But Fiddle's not the best for it, I'd rather get the Distortion enchant for more Flash fear or Twin Shadows for the slow, Shurelya feels awkward because he's so squishy that if he telegraphs "I'm going to run toward you" people can just turn and halve his health with long range stuff.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 17 2013 03:25 GMT
#5449
On August 17 2013 12:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 12:23 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On August 17 2013 12:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
For once I think they should have just stayed on Baron lol

Good disengage from Curse though.

Youre having thread troubles today lol

I FIXED IT

You've fooled nobody.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
August 17 2013 03:26 GMT
#5450
On August 17 2013 12:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
Fuck why am I so bad at this.

Alright real LoL talk, my internet at the new place sucks, LoL lags like a bitch. Trying to convince my roommates to upgrade it.


How can LoL lag? Do you mean the east coast lag or the real lag?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 17 2013 03:28 GMT
#5451
On August 17 2013 12:26 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 12:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
Fuck why am I so bad at this.

Alright real LoL talk, my internet at the new place sucks, LoL lags like a bitch. Trying to convince my roommates to upgrade it.


How can LoL lag? Do you mean the east coast lag or the real lag?

Fluctuating ping
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 17 2013 03:33 GMT
#5452
On August 17 2013 12:28 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 12:26 ketchup wrote:
On August 17 2013 12:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
Fuck why am I so bad at this.

Alright real LoL talk, my internet at the new place sucks, LoL lags like a bitch. Trying to convince my roommates to upgrade it.


How can LoL lag? Do you mean the east coast lag or the real lag?

Fluctuating ping

Whats your up/down speeds? is it inconsistent and thats why its bad or is it just slow?
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
August 17 2013 03:34 GMT
#5453
On August 17 2013 12:28 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 12:26 ketchup wrote:
On August 17 2013 12:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
Fuck why am I so bad at this.

Alright real LoL talk, my internet at the new place sucks, LoL lags like a bitch. Trying to convince my roommates to upgrade it.


How can LoL lag? Do you mean the east coast lag or the real lag?

Fluctuating ping

Comcast Plaguuuuu?
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 17 2013 03:36 GMT
#5454
leona, going to ignore quints even though I would be running flat ad or mpen ones, too lazy.

physical:

one normal auto, one reset auto, one normal auto
80 * 3 = 240

magic:

40 + 160 + 60 = 260

vs varus with 13.5 + 13 + 3.4 * 5 = 43.5 armor and 30 + 11 = 41 mr

damage with MPen = 240 * 100 / (100 + 43.5) + 260 * 100 / (100 + 41 - 7.8) = 362.4

damage with split pen = 240 * 100 / (100 + 43.5 - 8.1) + 260 * 100 / (100 + 41 - 5.5) = 369

damage with flat AD reds = 265.5 * 100 / (100 + 43.5) + 260 * 100 / (100 + 41) = 369

So basically they are all equal until you get your ult, at which point MPen should be better... although I think it's pretty realistic to get more autos than that in.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 17 2013 03:37 GMT
#5455
Nah, Time Warner. I just think it's slow. Only two guys were here over the summer and they had a pretty basic plan.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 17 2013 03:38 GMT
#5456
Comcast been crapping out on me too, dunno what it is.
It's your boy Guzma!
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 17 2013 03:39 GMT
#5457
On August 17 2013 12:37 onlywonderboy wrote:
Nah, Time Warner. I just think it's slow. Only two guys were here over the summer and they had a pretty basic plan.

Where i used to live time warner was known for having drastically different advertised -> received speeds. and your speed was almost entirely dependent on when you were using it. dropping down to atrocious speeds when in use a lot of times.
Aldrovandi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States211 Posts
August 17 2013 03:40 GMT
#5458
On August 17 2013 12:25 Alaric wrote:
Being meh*, sorry. I mean on champions like Lulu I kinda get it (esp. since I tend to get boots2 late on her, I usually do well so I buy shit like oracles and noone builds Locket so I build that and Ruby Sightstone and then I'm oom too and... welp, long story short it gives me more disengage on a champ made for it while allowing me to reach a fight without burning W for it when people all burn their dashes and shit).
But Fiddle's not the best for it, I'd rather get the Distortion enchant for more Flash fear or Twin Shadows for the slow, Shurelya feels awkward because he's so squishy that if he telegraphs "I'm going to run toward you" people can just turn and halve his health with long range stuff.


I think Fiddle is a special case as far as supports are concerned, he justs play so differently post-lane phase since you usually want to be more offensive with him but don't get the innate tankiness of a Leona or Thresh. I get Shurelya's pretty much always as Janna/Nami just because I've already got the philo stone and the active is still good for saving lives/ending the enemy's.

Really I wish Riot would just make more things similar to Shard with actives that no self-respecting solo laner would purchase because they give mediocre stats. Make Zeke's cheaper, remove the lifesteal from the aura and instead make it a single-target active that gives 25% lifesteal for x seconds and can only be cast on someone else.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
August 17 2013 03:42 GMT
#5459
On August 17 2013 12:36 UniversalSnip wrote:
leona, going to ignore quints even though I would be running flat ad or mpen ones, too lazy.

physical:

one normal auto, one reset auto, one normal auto
80 * 3 = 240

magic:

40 + 160 + 60 = 260

vs varus with 13.5 + 13 + 3.4 * 5 = 43.5 armor and 30 + 11 = 41 mr

damage with MPen = 240 * 100 / (100 + 43.5) + 260 * 100 / (100 + 41 - 7.8) = 362.4

damage with split pen = 240 * 100 / (100 + 43.5 - 8.1) + 260 * 100 / (100 + 41 - 5.5) = 369

damage with flat AD reds = 265.5 * 100 / (100 + 43.5) + 260 * 100 / (100 + 41) = 369

So basically they are all equal until you get your ult, at which point MPen should be better... although I think it's pretty realistic to get more autos than that in.


Im really interested what gets you the most damage on Leona. Recently i've been running mpen quints+reds and 9/0/21 (i run them according to matchup of course). I've blown up Jannas on a full rotation at lvl 3+1 auto from my ADC alone. It's crazy fun.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
August 17 2013 03:49 GMT
#5460
On August 17 2013 12:26 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 12:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
Fuck why am I so bad at this.

Alright real LoL talk, my internet at the new place sucks, LoL lags like a bitch. Trying to convince my roommates to upgrade it.


How can LoL lag? Do you mean the east coast lag or the real lag?


lol fuck you you dont know the pain of 5 fps LoL
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