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[News] SPL and KeSPA's Upcoming Reform - Page 9

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Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 10:28:57
July 04 2013 10:28 GMT
#161
What has this to do with SC2?
Seriously, these are the SC2 forums?

Other than that - it's pretty clear that LoL is taking the spot of SCBW in Korea, not SC2. Blizzard failed miserably to spread SC2 in Korea (too high prices, not enough availability in PC bangs, gameplay flaws, etc.)...
Kontrax
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany84 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 10:40:08
July 04 2013 10:39 GMT
#162
So sad that LoL is more popular than Dota2,,,
But i guess the easier game has more followers.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
July 04 2013 10:48 GMT
#163
On July 04 2013 19:39 Kontrax wrote:
So sad that LoL is more popular than Dota2,,,
But i guess the easier game has more followers.


Tell me more about how pro you are at LoL. Nothing on a pro level is easier.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Tosster
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland299 Posts
July 04 2013 10:59 GMT
#164
and major etc... fuck LoL
Tosster
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland299 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 11:00:56
July 04 2013 10:59 GMT
#165
On July 04 2013 19:48 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:39 Kontrax wrote:
So sad that LoL is more popular than Dota2,,,
But i guess the easier game has more followers.


Tell me more about how pro you are at LoL. Nothing on a pro level is easier.


Ofc it is compared to dota. And why are you talking about pro level? He mentioned popularity which is a fact because easy entry level.
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
July 04 2013 11:05 GMT
#166
Hell yeah! More korean LoL is always welcome.
ggaemo fan
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
July 04 2013 11:08 GMT
#167
Thought I was in the LoL subforum at first (came here from Reddit) and was extremely surprised by the comments, before I realized it's the SC2 section! :D

I always thought KeSPA was already really commited to LoL (besides SC) with CJ Entus, KT Rolster, SKTT1 and now STX Soul/CTU cooperation, also they pushed OGN Champions pretty heavily. Well, here comes another step forward.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
July 04 2013 11:13 GMT
#168
On July 04 2013 19:59 Tosster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:48 Chexx wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:39 Kontrax wrote:
So sad that LoL is more popular than Dota2,,,
But i guess the easier game has more followers.


Tell me more about how pro you are at LoL. Nothing on a pro level is easier.


Ofc it is compared to dota. And why are you talking about pro level? He mentioned popularity which is a fact because easy entry level.

easier entry level is something different than being an easy game. Thats why I mentioned that on a pro level no game is easy.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
DotPdf
Profile Joined January 2011
United States37 Posts
July 04 2013 11:14 GMT
#169
So we get tuesdays and thursdays reserved for WCS and the rest of the week reserved for LoL Proleague and Champions? Wonderful news for sc2 fans... in the sc2 forum.
"A real fan does not care about results alone. A real fan has the ability to support his idol even when they are in trouble. I am this kind of fan." - Congressmen Won
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
July 04 2013 11:16 GMT
#170
On July 04 2013 20:13 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:59 Tosster wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:48 Chexx wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:39 Kontrax wrote:
So sad that LoL is more popular than Dota2,,,
But i guess the easier game has more followers.


Tell me more about how pro you are at LoL. Nothing on a pro level is easier.


Ofc it is compared to dota. And why are you talking about pro level? He mentioned popularity which is a fact because easy entry level.

easier entry level is something different than being an easy game. Thats why I mentioned that on a pro level no game is easy.


Of course it isn't easy at the pro level. Going up against KeSPA teams who do everything humanly possibly to outskill, out-strategize and generally outclass you is never easy. The competition that LoL now has is insanely hard and cut-throat, which makes the game at the pro level, since it's played as a competitive format, also hard.
Kontrax
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany84 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 11:21:22
July 04 2013 11:20 GMT
#171
On July 04 2013 19:48 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:39 Kontrax wrote:
So sad that LoL is more popular than Dota2,,,
But i guess the easier game has more followers.


Tell me more about how pro you are at LoL. Nothing on a pro level is easier.


Sorry but i don´t play LoL anymore..
Cause one day I played one game of Dota2 and knew this game is by far the better one.

And everyone is complaining about SC2 and how easy it is compared to BW.
With Dota2 and LoL i feel the same..
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
July 04 2013 11:21 GMT
#172
On July 04 2013 19:39 Kontrax wrote:
So sad that LoL is more popular than Dota2,,,
But i guess the easier game has more followers.

It depends, some people find dota easier, some find lol easier. Matter of opinion.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
July 04 2013 11:22 GMT
#173
On July 04 2013 20:20 Kontrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:48 Chexx wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:39 Kontrax wrote:
So sad that LoL is more popular than Dota2,,,
But i guess the easier game has more followers.


Tell me more about how pro you are at LoL. Nothing on a pro level is easier.


Sorry but i don´t play LoL anymore..
Cause one day I played one game of Dota2 and knew this game is by far the better one.

And everyone is complaining about SC2 and how easy it is compared to BW.
With Dota2 and LoL i feel the same..


Mhh I didn't know TL was still such a dirty place sometimes, I guess if you rustle the right jimmies anything is possible.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 11:25:54
July 04 2013 11:24 GMT
#174
On July 04 2013 20:21 Cubu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:39 Kontrax wrote:
So sad that LoL is more popular than Dota2,,,
But i guess the easier game has more followers.

It depends, some people find dota easier, some find lol easier. Matter of opinion.

I would say LoL being easier at the entry level is a fact, getting good is a different story though.

Its not a bad thing either, being accessible is one of the games biggest draws so if anything more games should try to be like it.
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 04 2013 11:27 GMT
#175
I think this is a good thing overall, for both LoL and SC2.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1803 Posts
July 04 2013 11:28 GMT
#176
On July 04 2013 20:22 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 20:20 Kontrax wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:48 Chexx wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:39 Kontrax wrote:
So sad that LoL is more popular than Dota2,,,
But i guess the easier game has more followers.


Tell me more about how pro you are at LoL. Nothing on a pro level is easier.


Sorry but i don´t play LoL anymore..
Cause one day I played one game of Dota2 and knew this game is by far the better one.

And everyone is complaining about SC2 and how easy it is compared to BW.
With Dota2 and LoL i feel the same..


Mhh I didn't know TL was still such a dirty place sometimes, I guess if you rustle the right jimmies anything is possible.

It usually becomes a dirty place whenever you hit that post button in the SC2 General section. Especially if you weren't supposed to post it in the SC2 General section.

Great news for LoL fans, for SC2 fans we can continue to enjoy WCS Korea, and GSTL/SC2PL. We aren't going to get more viewers than a free to play game, and that's fine.
@MasterDalK | Maelstrom Entertainment | Streaming Every Esport Under the Sun
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
July 04 2013 11:33 GMT
#177
So do we know yet if this actually has any bearing on SC2? The fact that the thread is still open implies it might.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
July 04 2013 11:33 GMT
#178
I hope LGIM especially get's to enter PL (if it continues to exist in it's current form) and perhaps MVP too. Let GSTL just disband and give the other teams the chance to get the good players. Hopefully resulting in all good players playing just in one league.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
July 04 2013 11:34 GMT
#179
about time, LoL is fucking gigantic in korea

also, I know lots of people probably addressed it, but the kespa teams may or may not be current kespa (eg samsung). The special force leagues certainly had other sponsors (tving, IT bank), could be any sponsor
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
July 04 2013 11:41 GMT
#180
They better not exclude eSF teams like MVP if they want the full legitimacy for their pro league. MVP Ozone are just way too fucking good, stomping CJ Entus 3-0 last finals. Take that KeSPA!!
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