EPTEdit: oh lol, top comment on previous page says the same also.
[News] SPL and KeSPA's Upcoming Reform - Page 8
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On July 04 2013 18:22 Dodgin wrote: If you're getting tired of sc2 because It's less popular than other games, you probably didn't really like the game that much to begin with. It seems most esports fans don't actually like the games, they just want something that lots of other people like. His whole post had me going "Wait.. what?" | ||
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On July 04 2013 16:31 Krogan wrote: Compared to the incredibly hardcore LoL that Koreans now love? Personally I think Sc2 is far harder then BW in every aspect that wasn't just that bad because they couldn't make it any better back then. Watching those old BW matches I am just struck by how slow all the units move and how few units there are to control, how few abilities they have to use etc. Man, if you were a more frequent poster, I would memorialize this post in my profile so that I would never forget the kind of person you are. | ||
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roym899
Germany426 Posts
On July 04 2013 18:22 Dodgin wrote: If you're getting tired of sc2 because It's less popular than other games, you probably didn't really like the game that much to begin with. It seems most esports fans don't actually like the games, they just want something that lots of other people like. This is bullshit. I've spended so much time on SC2. Got from Bronze to Master league because I think it's by far the best game out there, because it's challenging, well balanced, and fun to watch. But one aspect I loved about e-sport was the fact that it was growing so fast. This aspect has gone completely from SC2 esports. In addition to this the prizemoney is getting lower. (not 100% sure about this though, but it definitly feels like it) | ||
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Megiddosc
United States966 Posts
On July 04 2013 18:26 Lorch wrote: Oh you so don't get it. You know how small star 2 was in korea during that time? Only hots and ogn/kespa moving in has brought star 2 to a decent level in korea. Gom only may be fine for the foreign audience, but it would be a blow to korean star 2 almost as huge as the max fixing scandal in bw was. The level hasn't really changed. Star 2 is just as unpopular as it pretty much always been in Korea. It has a niche audience, and if it all goes back to GOM that niche audience will remain. The 'foreign' fanbase is probably the most important for Star 2 anyway. And look at how OGN's stream, with them having all the advantages of having the players on stream, is less than half of GOM's stream. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 04 2013 18:28 roym899 wrote: This is bullshit. I've spended so much time on SC2. Got from Bronze to Master league because I think it's by far the best game out there, because it's challenging, well balanced, and fun to watch. But one aspect I loved about e-sport was the fact that it was growing so fast. This aspect has gone completely from SC2 esports. In addition to this the prizemoney is getting lower. (not 100% sure about this though, but it definitly feels like it) So you're not happy with sc2 esports unless It's constantly growing so fast? Just watch the games dude. sc2 has grown since HotS came out. It's not doing poorly at all. I don't know what the deal is with the constant negativity on these forums, It's really getting old. Did you know that Dreamhack Stockholm and Summer were the most viewed DH's of all time for sc2? The record for DH in WoL was 86k for DHW 2011 on a stream that was showing every game, instead of only sc2. Stockholm 2013 had 121k for the finals, Summer 2013 had 110k for the finals(on a monday, not a sunday). I can post proof if you don't believe me. Regarding the prize money, WCS alone is giving out 1.6 million this year. I don't think It's lower than 2012 overall but we'll see at the end of the year. | ||
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
On July 04 2013 18:28 roym899 wrote: This is bullshit. I've spended so much time on SC2. Got from Bronze to Master league because I think it's by far the best game out there, because it's challenging, well balanced, and fun to watch. But one aspect I loved about e-sport was the fact that it was growing so fast. This aspect has gone completely from SC2 esports. In addition to this the prizemoney is getting lower. (not 100% sure about this though, but it definitly feels like it) League hasnt grown much either since season 2.This is just a business move to confirm the audience theyalready had in kr.The audience for lol is actually stagnating or declining.You may find it surprinsingly but sc2 and lol actually have a constant audience with sc2 stabilizing at about 100k on twitch while lol stabilizes at about 200k. @dodger do not bother with facts.This is going to transform into one of those sc2 is dying threads where doomsayers will post lies to sustain their morbid fantasies of seing sc2 dead while evidence points otherwise.It is pretty useless to talk to people who think viewership going down when in fact every tournament organizer says it is going up. | ||
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hoburame
Netherlands48 Posts
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
Free competition in korea might have died today. | ||
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Locke-
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Lorch
Germany3685 Posts
On July 04 2013 18:30 Megiddosc wrote: The level hasn't really changed. Star 2 is just as unpopular as it pretty much always been in Korea. It has a niche audience, and if it all goes back to GOM that niche audience will remain. The 'foreign' fanbase is probably the most important for Star 2 anyway. And look at how OGN's stream, with them having all the advantages of having the players on stream, is less than half of GOM's stream. So star 2 going up on afreeca and in pc bang popularity since hots launch doesn't mean shit? OGN couldn't care less about the global audience when they are primarily a korean tv station, whereas gom is 100% online based, you can't even compare that. | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On July 04 2013 18:48 Locke- wrote: They are going to stain the sacred ground of Gwangalli Beach D: Eh, of all games, I'd be glad to see LoL. Nada and Reach support it, that's good enough for me~ | ||
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Alexj
Ukraine440 Posts
Yeah, poor guys.. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
Exact phrase used to describe SC2 replacing BW | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8745 Posts
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
but not a fan of mobas.. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On July 04 2013 18:51 Xenocide_Knight wrote: Eh, of all games, I'd be glad to see LoL. Nada and Reach support it, that's good enough for me~ Haha, only because Riot is paying them. | ||
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
so the fact that a moba resigns a contract with a company they already had a good contract with in the first placemakes you hate sc2  .Why can not you like sc2 for what it is .@Alexj Enlighten me a little bit.what is the difference between proleague and olympus champions beside different format?What will it bring to lol and how will it negatively impact sc2? @evilfatsh not you dota2 fans too.............why?what does this have to do with dota 2?You guys already have the 2 million dollar nexon thingy.How does negatively impact you...come on guys | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On July 04 2013 18:55 ProxyKnoxy wrote: "start of a new era" Exact phrase used to describe SC2 replacing BW well at least LoL is #1 in PC Baangs in korea It's not really a start to a new era imo, just a legitimization or elucidation of what already exists | ||
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