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Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
July 04 2013 08:19 GMT
#121
This is good for esports but I'm still confused to why a league of legends topic is in the sc2 directory?
There's no S in KT. :P
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
July 04 2013 08:23 GMT
#122
Why are we doing SC2 vs BW? If you think BW would have won out against LoL you're mentally insane.

League of Legends is a casual F2P MOBA. You're never going to relate to an audience better than with a game like that. BW/SC2 are great esports, but they will never be more watched than League of Legends.

And you know what? That's fine.

I personally think League is stupid, and I only watch Starcraft, which is why I'm on a STARCRAFT forum (well at least subforum).
Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
July 04 2013 08:26 GMT
#123
Well, a LoL Proleague would mean even more of OGN's content being devoted to LoL. I wonder how long SPL can last on SPOTV alone. If it all goes back to GOM though, that's fine with me. They're the only SC2 korean streams that I watch anyway.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 04 2013 08:29 GMT
#124
Wohoo, I hope OGN moves completely away from Starcraft2, so that GOM gets to cast WCS alone. Their format, casting and frequency is just so much better than the current WCS/OSL.
Aeleron
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia71 Posts
July 04 2013 08:30 GMT
#125
On July 04 2013 17:29 Big J wrote:
Wohoo, I hope OGN moves completely away from Starcraft2, so that GOM gets to cast WCS alone. Their format, casting and frequency is just so much better than the current WCS/OSL.


That would be the worst thing to happen to SC2.
Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
July 04 2013 08:35 GMT
#126
On July 04 2013 17:30 Aeleron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 17:29 Big J wrote:
Wohoo, I hope OGN moves completely away from Starcraft2, so that GOM gets to cast WCS alone. Their format, casting and frequency is just so much better than the current WCS/OSL.


That would be the worst thing to happen to SC2.

Not particularly. We fared just fine for 2 years like that.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
July 04 2013 08:35 GMT
#127
Shouldn't this be in the LOL section? It seems that otherwise its just a justification to start another "sc2 is dead omg" discussion...
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 04 2013 08:40 GMT
#128
On July 04 2013 17:30 Aeleron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 17:29 Big J wrote:
Wohoo, I hope OGN moves completely away from Starcraft2, so that GOM gets to cast WCS alone. Their format, casting and frequency is just so much better than the current WCS/OSL.


That would be the worst thing to happen to SC2.

Wouldn't say that, at least outside korea the GOM stuff is far more popular.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
July 04 2013 08:41 GMT
#129
This shouldn't affect SC2 at all (how many of you know, there is also Special Forces 2 Proleague?), if it will, then probably in a good way. If they allow 3rd party teams like MVP, LG-IM, Najin etc into LoL Proleague, there is a precedent right there, for teams like Startale, LG-IM and MVP to enter also SC2 Proleague...

I have to admit, yesterday watching OGN The Champions Summer, all I could think of was "those fangirl screams are supposed to be for Jaedong and Rain and Jangbi and Flash and..." and it made me really sad.
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Regime
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia185 Posts
July 04 2013 08:47 GMT
#130
I wish tl picked lol over dota2 as a wol player switched to lol I can say its the best choice I made since starting wc3 lol is just a fun game at all levels and miss coming to tl like I would for sc2 wol
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 04 2013 08:54 GMT
#131
On July 04 2013 14:18 Erosive wrote:
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On July 04 2013 14:14 Empirimancer wrote:
Sometimes I try to imagine how popular SC2 would be in Korea if it had been as accessible as Brood War in internet cafes and if bnet 2.0 had been well designed.

Then I get depressed and I think about something else.


Sometimes I try to imagine if Blizz dev team didn't make Starcraft 2 so noob friendly to keep the competitive level harsh just like BW. Surely a high percentage of Pro Koreans would've have switched to Starcraft 2 keeping the player base and viewer base the same to the new game.

Blizz did the opposite though. They marketed sc2 as ESPORT, while they should hav marketed it as a game that your entire family played, like they did with StarCraft. Accessibility first, esports later.

I'm not sure I like this. As long as it doesn't affect proleague or osl anything I'm okay with it, I guess.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Asturas
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Finland587 Posts
July 04 2013 08:55 GMT
#132
I am a bad person because I don't give a f*** about LoL. Or unfortunately I do, in fact:
- because it seems that the bigger LoL is, the smaller SC2 is, I hate LoL.
- what is more, because of LoL twitch.tv is lagging during every damn LoL tournament.

So I am just very sad that LoL overtook Starcraft's position in Korea and globally.
There are no boundaries, that's the final conclusion.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 09:02:49
July 04 2013 09:02 GMT
#133
On July 04 2013 17:35 Douillos wrote:
Shouldn't this be in the LOL section? It seems that otherwise its just a justification to start another "sc2 is dead omg" discussion...


Yeah, I don't see anything concerning sc2 in this post, don't get it.

And Happy Birthday!!!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
July 04 2013 09:09 GMT
#134
Not sure what to think of this. May be that Kespa gets more "power" from this, stabilizing their SC2 teams, or it could mean that they concentrate more on LoL and dissolve more SC2 teams (probably not). I just hope this is not somehow used to strengthen their position and further cement the separation of Korean SC2.
roym899
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany426 Posts
July 04 2013 09:16 GMT
#135
On July 04 2013 18:09 Daswollvieh wrote:
Not sure what to think of this. May be that Kespa gets more "power" from this, stabilizing their SC2 teams, or it could mean that they concentrate more on LoL and dissolve more SC2 teams (probably not). I just hope this is not somehow used to strengthen their position and further cement the separation of Korean SC2.

You say "probably not", but I'm quite certain they will. It's completely understandable after all too. LoL pulls more then three times the viewer numbers then SC2. For me it's sad, as I really dislike any moba game, but at the same time I've lost some interest in SC2 too because it gets a less and less popular e-sport compared to LoL and Dota.
Looking at twitchs viewer numbers, LoL is ALWAYS ahead of SC2 even if a GSL Finals are live and no LoL tournament is running.
For me it's saddening, and I feel like everyone telling you it doesn't matter for SC2 are kinda like these guys:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6106 Posts
July 04 2013 09:18 GMT
#136
Thanks Blizzard for destroying Starcraft
#1 Terran hater
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
July 04 2013 09:18 GMT
#137
FUCK, lets hope we'll continue to have sc2 proleague and both games can coexist. But given riots retarded attitude that their game is the one and only true esport I fear for star 2's feature. I really wish riot would just be " fuck it all the moneyz we put into esports isn't worth it, gg!", and disappear forever, I guess one can always dream...
Gben592
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom281 Posts
July 04 2013 09:18 GMT
#138
On July 04 2013 17:55 Asturas wrote:
I am a bad person because I don't give a f*** about LoL. Or unfortunately I do, in fact:
- because it seems that the bigger LoL is, the smaller SC2 is, I hate LoL.
- what is more, because of LoL twitch.tv is lagging during every damn LoL tournament.

So I am just very sad that LoL overtook Starcraft's position in Korea and globally.


Huh? I've never seen anything to support that...

I don't mind personally. I watch Starcraft, because I like Starcraft. If there are bigger games out there, that's fine!
"The more skilled player is the one who wins, and I don't think there's better balance than what we have now." INnoVation
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 04 2013 09:22 GMT
#139
On July 04 2013 18:16 roym899 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 18:09 Daswollvieh wrote:
Not sure what to think of this. May be that Kespa gets more "power" from this, stabilizing their SC2 teams, or it could mean that they concentrate more on LoL and dissolve more SC2 teams (probably not). I just hope this is not somehow used to strengthen their position and further cement the separation of Korean SC2.

You say "probably not", but I'm quite certain they will. It's completely understandable after all too. LoL pulls more then three times the viewer numbers then SC2. For me it's sad, as I really dislike any moba game, but at the same time I've lost some interest in SC2 too because it gets a less and less popular e-sport compared to LoL and Dota.
Looking at twitchs viewer numbers, LoL is ALWAYS ahead of SC2 even if a GSL Finals are live and no LoL tournament is running.
For me it's saddening, and I feel like everyone telling you it doesn't matter for SC2 are kinda like these guys:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


If you're getting tired of sc2 because It's less popular than other games, you probably didn't really like the game that much to begin with. It seems most esports fans don't actually like the games, they just want something that lots of other people like.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 09:27:00
July 04 2013 09:26 GMT
#140
On July 04 2013 17:35 Megiddosc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 17:30 Aeleron wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:29 Big J wrote:
Wohoo, I hope OGN moves completely away from Starcraft2, so that GOM gets to cast WCS alone. Their format, casting and frequency is just so much better than the current WCS/OSL.


That would be the worst thing to happen to SC2.

Not particularly. We fared just fine for 2 years like that.


Oh you so don't get it. You know how small star 2 was in korea during that time? Only hots and ogn/kespa moving in has brought star 2 to a decent level in korea. Gom only may be fine for the foreign audience, but it would be a blow to korean star 2 almost as huge as the max fixing scandal in bw was.
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