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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 16:57:48
May 21 2013 16:57 GMT
#1661
On May 22 2013 01:55 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 01:46 OhNeverMind wrote:
I don't understand why people assume that Riot has a personal vendetta against their region because of server problems. I get that it is frustrating and its Riots fault but at the same time it isn't easy handling millions of simultaneous users. I'm sure Riot has tons of things (like every software developer) that they wish they would have done differently so that they could have avoided some of these architectural problems but its not like they can just go completely revamp their architecture without serious risks of hosing their entire game.

Also I wanted to say that this does directly effect their income, because a large factor of why people buy skins is based on their goodwill toward riot. Having non-functional servers quickly evaporates user's goodwill.

The EUW situation reminds me of Yogi Berra talking about a restaurant... "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded"


What is this i dont even...

Im just going to assume its a giant troll.



why?

you were moaning a lot, he's tellnig youto stop moaning because it wont change anything
seems legit
OhNeverMind
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
May 21 2013 16:58 GMT
#1662
On May 22 2013 01:55 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 01:46 OhNeverMind wrote:
I don't understand why people assume that Riot has a personal vendetta against their region because of server problems. I get that it is frustrating and its Riots fault but at the same time it isn't easy handling millions of simultaneous users. I'm sure Riot has tons of things (like every software developer) that they wish they would have done differently so that they could have avoided some of these architectural problems but its not like they can just go completely revamp their architecture without serious risks of hosing their entire game.

Also I wanted to say that this does directly effect their income, because a large factor of why people buy skins is based on their goodwill toward riot. Having non-functional servers quickly evaporates user's goodwill.

The EUW situation reminds me of Yogi Berra talking about a restaurant... "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded"


What is this i dont even...

Im just going to assume its a giant troll.



not trolling... is there something specific you think is ridiculous?
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 21 2013 17:00 GMT
#1663
Unless I'm entirely mistaken about the Riot-employed TL population, then the only person who is in any position to know anything about the workings of Riot's code base, their server statuses and maintenance schedules, their available revenue and resources, or anything of the sort would be MoonBear. Except he's a Wrenchie and still wouldn't know nearly as much about it as someone working for the core engine that drives the game.

Which is to say that no one here has the knowledge, experience, or understanding capable of saying what Riot can and should do. I work in programming too, and while I can understand bits and pieces of what makes LoL work, there's no way I could assert the best way for them to make things "better" or how much effort it would take. It's just not possible.

Complaining about lacking feature X is one thing (I want replays too, goddammit), but there is no possible grounds on which anyone can say "Riot can do this, it's easy, the only reason they don't is because they're stupid/lazy/moneygrubbing/etc." If anybody has managed to find proof of this phenomenon, then I'm sure we'd all love to hear it. But I guarantee that if you're surmising that Riot has the resources (time, money, or otherwise) to fix everything that you want fixed and just isn't doing so, then you're missing something.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
May 21 2013 17:05 GMT
#1664
smashgizmo is a TL legend who is now also a riot employee, let's stone the heretic
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 21 2013 17:07 GMT
#1665
On May 22 2013 02:05 gtrsrs wrote:
smashgizmo is a TL legend who is now also a riot employee, let's stone the heretic

Neo also contracted by Riot... JUST SAYING.
liftlift > tsm
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
May 21 2013 17:07 GMT
#1666
On May 22 2013 02:05 gtrsrs wrote:
smashgizmo is a TL legend who is now also a riot employee, let's stone the heretic


But does he program for them? ^^
Only the dead have seen the end of war
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 17:09:53
May 21 2013 17:08 GMT
#1667
On May 22 2013 02:05 gtrsrs wrote:
smashgizmo is a TL legend who is now also a riot employee, let's stone the heretic


lol yeah, but he's in QA Getting Destroyed in Champ Spotlights. APOLOGIES REGARDLESS.

And when was the last time he came in here anyways?

But if he has some unique, non-NDA information he'd like to drop on us, I'm all ears.

Edit: For accuracy.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 21 2013 17:10 GMT
#1668
On May 22 2013 02:08 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 02:05 gtrsrs wrote:
smashgizmo is a TL legend who is now also a riot employee, let's stone the heretic


lol yeah, but he's in QA Getting Destroyed in Champ Spotlights. APOLOGIES REGARDLESS.

And when was the last time he came in here anyways?

But if he has some unique, non-NDA information he'd like to drop on us, I'm all ears.

Edit: For accuracy.

Sounds about right.
liftlift > tsm
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
May 21 2013 17:18 GMT
#1669
On May 21 2013 19:05 greggy wrote:
HOLY FUCKING JESUS, IT'S FUCKING TUESDAY AND STILL EUW IS FUCKED. WHAT THE FUCK, RIOT, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK???? HOW HARD CAN IT BE TO KEEP IT STABLE, FOR FUCK'S SAKE

put an ice cube in it and chill down bro
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 21 2013 17:19 GMT
#1670
SmashGizmo got top Nunu nerfed GRRRRRRRR
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
OhNeverMind
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
May 21 2013 17:22 GMT
#1671
This is just a tangent... but about Riot's code which I don't have any information on... I did see presentation via youtube on Berkshelf (chef) by one of Riot's developers. I don't use Chef but i thought the presentation was pretty good and left me thinking that Riot has some good developers. If you are interested in learning about and using Chef i'd recommend it.



GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
May 21 2013 17:24 GMT
#1672
I hope Times for Allstars is gonna be good for Europe. I need something during like early noon/afternoon. I'm busy all weekend otherwise
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 21 2013 17:25 GMT
#1673
So you can get in que but chat doesn't work.Reminds me of the good old times when I switched to west lol.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 21 2013 17:25 GMT
#1674
On May 22 2013 02:24 GoSuChicken wrote:
I hope Times for Allstars is gonna be good for Europe. I need something during like early noon/afternoon. I'm busy all weekend otherwise


9 am na vs china
12pm eu vs korea

"fuck university" i'm taking off friday :D

NA guys would be 3 am and 6 am for east coast then
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 17:28:33
May 21 2013 17:28 GMT
#1675
On May 22 2013 02:25 nafta wrote:
So you can get in que but chat doesn't work.Reminds me of the good old times when I switched to west lol.


Shit's so wonky atm. 1600 ppl before me in queue but 25 minutes wait time go figure.

-get in in 30 seconds anyways-
Only the dead have seen the end of war
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
May 21 2013 17:29 GMT
#1676
On May 22 2013 01:55 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 01:46 OhNeverMind wrote:
I don't understand why people assume that Riot has a personal vendetta against their region because of server problems. I get that it is frustrating and its Riots fault but at the same time it isn't easy handling millions of simultaneous users. I'm sure Riot has tons of things (like every software developer) that they wish they would have done differently so that they could have avoided some of these architectural problems but its not like they can just go completely revamp their architecture without serious risks of hosing their entire game.

Also I wanted to say that this does directly effect their income, because a large factor of why people buy skins is based on their goodwill toward riot. Having non-functional servers quickly evaporates user's goodwill.

The EUW situation reminds me of Yogi Berra talking about a restaurant... "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded"


What is this i dont even...

Im just going to assume its a giant troll.

OhNeverMind's post made sense and was well-written, not sure where you're seeing the troll at all
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 17:49:28
May 21 2013 17:48 GMT
#1677
On May 22 2013 01:57 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 01:55 Capped wrote:
On May 22 2013 01:46 OhNeverMind wrote:
I don't understand why people assume that Riot has a personal vendetta against their region because of server problems. I get that it is frustrating and its Riots fault but at the same time it isn't easy handling millions of simultaneous users. I'm sure Riot has tons of things (like every software developer) that they wish they would have done differently so that they could have avoided some of these architectural problems but its not like they can just go completely revamp their architecture without serious risks of hosing their entire game.

Also I wanted to say that this does directly effect their income, because a large factor of why people buy skins is based on their goodwill toward riot. Having non-functional servers quickly evaporates user's goodwill.

The EUW situation reminds me of Yogi Berra talking about a restaurant... "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded"


What is this i dont even...

Im just going to assume its a giant troll.



why?

you were moaning a lot, he's tellnig youto stop moaning because it wont change anything
seems legit


Ok well, your first paragraph after the first sentence is legit. So yeah. :D

The first sentence is a bit alarming, who in the world assumed riot had a personal vendetta against EUW? Just a silly remark to make that makes you come across as an outsider bitching on europeans for having a problem when he has none (In regards to LoL.)

People not buying RP because of the server issues is neglible. I can bet my ass that 99% of people who buy RP just 1) Have the money 2) Want to so they can have cool shit. The servers being down for a few days isnt going to stop them buying RP as they know when the servers are up, they can use their shit and the game is absolutely awesome (when the servers work. which is a good 95% of the time..hue) Im a victim of this (£9 on sunday.), so call it bias, but i dont think its an unreasonable assumption.

And i dont know who Yogi Berra is, but while the sentence "nobody goes there, its too crowded" is completely contradicting itself. It's actually a valid point. I have many a time walked away from a good restaurant because its been packed to shit and gone elsewhere, like im sure many other people have. Purely because its harder to relax with all the noise / clusterfuck of people. Ofc "nobody" going there is an exaggeration / unvalid way of getting his point across but yeah..thats what i take from that statement

So yeah, those are the points i assumed to be trollish, mainly your first sentence which just screamed "Hue i dont have issues, y u all bitchin"
Useless wet fish.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 21 2013 17:55 GMT
#1678
Hey guys I got a job. huehueheuehueuehuehuehueheuehue time to buy RP!
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
OhNeverMind
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
May 21 2013 17:57 GMT
#1679
On May 22 2013 02:48 Capped wrote:
Ok well, your first paragraph after the first sentence is legit. So yeah. :D

The first sentence is a bit alarming, who in the world assumed riot had a personal vendetta against EUW? Just a silly remark to make that makes you come across as an outsider bitching on europeans for having a problem when he has none (In regards to LoL.)
...


The first sentence was primarily in response to greggy who said


that doesn't mean I'm not in a position to criticise their decisionmaking. completely leaving EUW (and only EUW, mind you) to freewheel for years now is a conscious decision however *cut*


And perhaps this is just my own behavior but I have discretionary income and one reason I choose to spend money on vanity items like skins is because I like the experience riot provides. If I couldn't log in reliably for months on end i'd be pissed too and would be much less likely to spend my money.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 21 2013 17:57 GMT
#1680
On May 22 2013 02:55 Sufficiency wrote:
Hey guys I got a job. huehueheuehueuehuehuehueheuehue time to buy RP!

The irony of a job; money to spend on luxury, but no time to play with it.
liftlift > tsm
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