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Ethelis
United States2400 Posts
On June 04 2013 03:35 Cixah wrote: So if the only way to beat draven is play draven or ban draven, why hasn't he been completely neutered into non usefulness. Super frustrating. Make him miss picking up an axe via any cc dodge his E ??? profit Easier said than done but it's not like he has 0 counter-play | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On June 04 2013 03:17 Cixah wrote: How do you beat draven in lane? Janna support? That's my favorite. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 04 2013 01:52 onlywonderboy wrote: Yeah, like Corki/Graves/Ez all have the same range or shorter but have Missile Barrage, Buckshot, and Mystic Shot to make up for that. Plus Vayne is squishy early compared to some of those. So you get bullied, which is why people QQ. She could have Tryndameres range and no one would cry if she still carried as hard but could tank all day during laning. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
Lulu actually works remarkably well also | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On June 04 2013 02:17 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Hey guys, what headphones would you recommend for a LoL/ Starcraft player for under $100? I tried the Siberia V2's, but they didn't go over so well, and I've heard really mixed reviews about the Kraken. Any suggestions? I'd say if you only play SC/LOL, just buy something comfortable since I don't think you can notice the sound quality or need the sound quality to enjoy the game. When I play LOL I always use a cheap pair of earphone, only when I play some FPS/Adventures games like Metro: Last Light or Tom Raider I use my headphone since the sound is actually a experience that build into the game. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
How is Annie's ult bad and how is a suggestion to increase Tibbers move speed make it to their front page? If you really thought Annie wasn't viable why would this make her viable? Mark my words, if Riot makes Tibbers fast enough that people can't kite it that well in team fights Tibbers will become the best team fight ult in the game. It's already really close considering it's an AoE stun with high initial damage and 45 seconds of 30(+.2 AP) teamfight AoE dps if the enemy team doesn't focus on it (and if they focus Tibbers they aren't killing your team for probably a full 1-1.5 seconds so it's a win-win). | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On June 04 2013 03:43 overt wrote: Sometimes I feel like I'm playing a different game than reddit. How is Annie's ult bad and how is a suggestion to increase Tibbers move speed make it to their front page? If you really thought Annie wasn't viable why would this make her viable? Mark my words, if Riot makes Tibbers fast enough that people can't kite it that well in team fights Tibbers will become the best team fight ult in the game. It's already really close considering it's an AoE stun with high initial damage and 45 seconds of 30(+.2 AP) teamfight AoE dps if the enemy team doesn't focus on it (and if they focus Tibbers they aren't killing your team for probably a full 1-1.5 seconds so it's a win-win). If Riot made Tibbers any faster, there would be almost 0 reason to pick Viktor at all (aside from poke range). But people thinking Annie is bad just lets me keep wrecking mid laners, so whatever. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 04 2013 03:43 overt wrote: Sometimes I feel like I'm playing a different game than reddit. How is Annie's ult bad and how is a suggestion to increase Tibbers move speed make it to their front page? If you really thought Annie wasn't viable why would this make her viable? Mark my words, if Riot makes Tibbers fast enough that people can't kite it that well in team fights Tibbers will become the best team fight ult in the game. It's already really close considering it's an AoE stun with high initial damage and 45 seconds of 30(+.2 AP) teamfight AoE dps if the enemy team doesn't focus on it (and if they focus Tibbers they aren't killing your team for probably a full 1-1.5 seconds so it's a win-win). wtf did I just read. One aspect of Annie's skills that really bothers me is the fact that Tibbers is so slow. After the initial summon, Tibber's isn't too big of a threat. Who cares what Tibbers does after the summons, trying to land a multi-person stun that does a good amount of burst damage is what makes the ult what it is. Having Tibbers walk around a deal damage is just a bonus imo. If there was direct pet control I could see it being more useful, but with the half-assed pet system Riot has in place the initial effect is powerful enough that having Tibbers be faster is really a non-issue. Edit: Fucking Reddit I'm just gonna be honest, Tibbers is a pretty weak ult. Upon entering the field, the burst/stun he does is great, but after that he's just a slow moving lug that does a meh amount of damage that can honestly die pretty easily if you're not dumb about it. Yep, that AoE stun, hella useless. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On June 04 2013 04:00 Osmoses wrote: Man pay attention, everyone agrees the damage and stun is great but that tibbers himself is useless, and it's true. It's remarkably NOT true though. Early game, Tibbers' damage post summon is still really really freaking good and is a massive deterrent for enemies for his entire lifespan. In team fights it's meh, but still good. My only gripe is sometimes he feels completely lobotomized and will run off in the wrong direction or stop moving completely - but that's just Riot's poor pet AI. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On June 04 2013 04:00 Osmoses wrote: Man pay attention, everyone agrees the damage and stun is great but that tibbers himself is useless, and it's true. Tanking turrets ain't useless. Also, I think the point being made above is that making Tibbers more useful would break Annie entirely. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On June 04 2013 04:00 Osmoses wrote: Man pay attention, everyone agrees the damage and stun is great but that tibbers himself is useless, and it's true. No, he isn't. In a team fight Tibbers does silly amounts of damage even after the stun. Tibbers only becomes useless if Annie dies. Even if the enemy team focuses on Tibbers for just a second to kill him that essentially turns Tibbers into a 2.75 second stun since the enemy team isn't dpsing your team. If the enemy jungler smites Tibbers? Still a win. How many ults in the game deal the dps that Tibbers deals? How many ults make a jungler blow smite? How many ults are large AoE stuns dealing 450 (+.7 AP) magic damage instantly? Tibbers is a team fight ult. Even after his initial cast he is still good in team fights. The fact that you can't chase people down with Tibbers doesn't make Tibbers bad. Especially when you consider that if you fail to kill someone and can't chase them with Tibbers your team can now use Tibbers to tank a tower or tank dragon. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 04 2013 04:00 Osmoses wrote: Man pay attention, everyone agrees the damage and stun is great but that tibbers himself is useless, and it's true. The one guy I quoted said that Tibbers (the ult, not just the character) is a weak even with the stun/burst. The ult is in a fine place. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Lounge
537 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On June 04 2013 04:14 Lounge wrote: There's a reason I visit here for discussion and pretty much avoid reddit. Stuff like that is a large part of it. ^ I have a friend who writes (or at least, wrote) for the Dignitas website. He said their editor skype chat was almost more retarded than Reddit sometimes lol. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 04 2013 04:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: ^ I have a friend who writes (or at least, wrote) for the Dignitas website. He said their editor skype chat was almost more retarded than Reddit sometimes lol. Our chat consists of Yango dropping mad knowledge bombs and then proceeding to post them in GD. Edit: Oh and Pokemon, and bad puns...so not that much different from GD really | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On June 04 2013 04:10 onlywonderboy wrote: The one guy I quoted said that Tibbers (the ult, not just the character) is a weak even with the stun/burst. The ult is in a fine place. I thought he said Upon entering the field, the burst/stun he does is great Either way, I've never thought of Tibbers post-ult as relevant at all. | ||
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