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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
May 31 2013 00:00 GMT
#4281
So funny to watch DL coach Chauster
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 31 2013 00:06 GMT
#4282
Man that Renekton 1v5s them
g3no
Profile Joined December 2008
120 Posts
May 31 2013 00:09 GMT
#4283
Idk if chauster is trolling, but hes playing like trash, most of the shotcalling is being done by link also, so l0l.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 31 2013 00:10 GMT
#4284
Chauster really needs to re-adjust to support. Fast.
Glorious SEA doto
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 31 2013 00:15 GMT
#4285
On May 31 2013 08:11 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 08:10 Mensol wrote:
jiji doing better than expected.

On May 31 2013 08:01 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:56 Mensol wrote:
nien is the new hsgg.

#clgtoplanecurse

Doublelift with 150 cs in botlane at 14:30 mark. O.o, that's so beast.

thanks to zyra's plants.


To be fair it sounds like Link is doing work when it comes to coordinating everything. Is he the only good TF in NA?

Regi utilizes the power of voodoo to win as TF every time.

But actually he's pretty good at TF ('Cept for that one game LOL)

Also I've noticed it's been awhile since I blindly fanboyed. So TSM TSM TSM
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 31 2013 00:18 GMT
#4286
On May 31 2013 09:09 g3no wrote:
Idk if chauster is trolling, but hes playing like trash, most of the shotcalling is being done by link also, so l0l.


LiNk was really underrated in Spring Split. I think it was mostly due to CLG doing poorly as a whole and people noticing that Aphro was steadily getting better. LiNk's a really quiet dude and doesn't have the outspoken nature that players like Double, Chauster, or Aphromoo do nor does he have the long time fanbases that jiji or Hotshot do. And now with Nien and jiji on the team he's likely to continue to be over shadowed.
craaaaack
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
479 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 00:19:50
May 31 2013 00:19 GMT
#4287
I want to improve my jungler diversity. So far I play:

Shaco, Lee, Xin - lane control and ganking
Amumu, Fiddle - if team lacks magic damage
Shyv - farming the jungle
Trundle - tanky guy?

I think I might need some kind of control jungler, any ideas?
▲ I was really thirsty while playing a match. All my teammates were gone, so I drank from the water bottle that was next to me. It was very good. I thank the owner of the bottle.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 31 2013 00:20 GMT
#4288
On May 31 2013 09:15 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 08:11 Numy wrote:
On May 31 2013 08:10 Mensol wrote:
jiji doing better than expected.

On May 31 2013 08:01 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 31 2013 07:56 Mensol wrote:
nien is the new hsgg.

#clgtoplanecurse

Doublelift with 150 cs in botlane at 14:30 mark. O.o, that's so beast.

thanks to zyra's plants.


To be fair it sounds like Link is doing work when it comes to coordinating everything. Is he the only good TF in NA?

Regi utilizes the power of voodoo to win as TF every time.

But actually he's pretty good at TF ('Cept for that one game LOL)

Also I've noticed it's been awhile since I blindly fanboyed. So TSM TSM TSM

He's really good on TF because he knows when to engage and TSM trusts him to pick good spots. His mechanical skill needs work but if he was a mechanical god he'd be international level.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 31 2013 00:20 GMT
#4289
Jiji looked fairly good. His Hecarim ults were iffy, but those are hard to land (especially when your team is all over the place) and he's been a jungler for about a week.

I side with him/Link on that one mucked up Dragon during the Nocturne game. Chauster and DL were too far away; double globals doesn't mean you auto-win when your allies aren't going to arrive before you've been brutalized.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 31 2013 00:22 GMT
#4290
On May 31 2013 09:19 craaaaack wrote:
I want to improve my jungler diversity. So far I play:

Shaco, Lee, Xin - lane control and ganking
Amumu, Fiddle - if team lacks magic damage
Shyv - farming the jungle
Trundle - tanky guy?

I think I might need some kind of control jungler, any ideas?

Nocturne, Nautilus, Vi, Diana, and Hec are all strong right now but Spirit of the Elder Lizard is getting nerfed soon so who knows.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 31 2013 00:23 GMT
#4291
On May 31 2013 09:19 craaaaack wrote:
I want to improve my jungler diversity. So far I play:

Shaco, Lee, Xin - lane control and ganking
Amumu, Fiddle - if team lacks magic damage
Shyv - farming the jungle
Trundle - tanky guy?

I think I might need some kind of control jungler, any ideas?


You're missing Nasus, Jarvan, Sejuani, and Volibear for starters. Hecarim is also really good, but landing decent ultimates with him is a talent/skill most players (including myself) lack.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 00:38:55
May 31 2013 00:38 GMT
#4292
I got into LoL at the end of season 2 so i'm not familiar with Chauster as a support. I've only seen him as a jungler with 50 cs by 40 minutes into the game sitting on top of Doublelift.

Were they really the best bot lane in the world? Why did he stop playing support? Does he have to potencial to be a great support again? His mechanics look really bad -_-, at least Aphro was good at that.

I may be wrong (don't know much about Chauster/Dlift bot in the past) but to me it seems like they will be decent in NA like Aphro/Dlift was and they will get destroyed in Worlds.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 31 2013 00:52 GMT
#4293
On May 31 2013 09:23 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 09:19 craaaaack wrote:
I want to improve my jungler diversity. So far I play:

Shaco, Lee, Xin - lane control and ganking
Amumu, Fiddle - if team lacks magic damage
Shyv - farming the jungle
Trundle - tanky guy?

I think I might need some kind of control jungler, any ideas?


You're missing Nasus, Jarvan, Sejuani, and Volibear for starters. Hecarim is also really good, but landing decent ultimates with him is a talent/skill most players (including myself) lack.


Nunu is fairly good as a "control" jungler, might actually be the only one.

I would say though, that you don't need to play all the popular junglers. A lot of them dont really carry that hard. Except the pig and the horse.
Freeeeeeedom
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 31 2013 01:07 GMT
#4294
On May 31 2013 09:38 Spaiku wrote:
I got into LoL at the end of season 2 so i'm not familiar with Chauster as a support. I've only seen him as a jungler with 50 cs by 40 minutes into the game sitting on top of Doublelift.

Were they really the best bot lane in the world? Why did he stop playing support? Does he have to potencial to be a great support again? His mechanics look really bad -_-, at least Aphro was good at that.

I may be wrong (don't know much about Chauster/Dlift bot in the past) but to me it seems like they will be decent in NA like Aphro/Dlift was and they will get destroyed in Worlds.


They were probably top 5 bot lane in the world. Definitely the best in NA. Chauster wasn't as good as Madlife back then and he certainly isn't as good as Madlife now though.

This is their first day of scrims I believe. Give him some time and a few weeks of LCS before judging him. But yeah, he looked bad, I don't think NA supports of today are the much better than Chauster was in his prime personally (although patoy Zyra and Daydreamin Blitz are both sick as hell).
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 01:10:09
May 31 2013 01:08 GMT
#4295
On May 31 2013 09:23 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 09:19 craaaaack wrote:
I want to improve my jungler diversity. So far I play:

Shaco, Lee, Xin - lane control and ganking
Amumu, Fiddle - if team lacks magic damage
Shyv - farming the jungle
Trundle - tanky guy?

I think I might need some kind of control jungler, any ideas?


You're missing Nasus, Jarvan, Sejuani, and Volibear for starters. Hecarim is also really good, but landing decent ultimates with him is a talent/skill most players (including myself) lack.


Xin for soloQ, carries hard.
Nunu.
Udyr ^_^

Heca is just fucking OP right now, his ultimates are easy enough to hit i find, but then i fail janna ults at a 100% ratio so i guess things like that are hit n miss

On a side note, is there any pro support out there which is god-mode leona? I always pick leona if i can as support because of her play potential, she can do some miracle shit.
Useless wet fish.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 31 2013 01:19 GMT
#4296
Fnatic's nRated has an excellent, playmaking Leona. Krepo's is decent too. I'm surprised Aphro didn't play her since she seems to mesh well with his aggressive playstyle, but I guess DL felt more comfortable with combos where he'd still have the initiative, plus Leona isn't the best pick for 1v2 laning (can't shove, lacks harass, can't dive too early because she isn't too tanky yet).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
May 31 2013 01:20 GMT
#4297
On May 31 2013 10:07 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 09:38 Spaiku wrote:
I got into LoL at the end of season 2 so i'm not familiar with Chauster as a support. I've only seen him as a jungler with 50 cs by 40 minutes into the game sitting on top of Doublelift.

Were they really the best bot lane in the world? Why did he stop playing support? Does he have to potencial to be a great support again? His mechanics look really bad -_-, at least Aphro was good at that.

I may be wrong (don't know much about Chauster/Dlift bot in the past) but to me it seems like they will be decent in NA like Aphro/Dlift was and they will get destroyed in Worlds.


They were probably top 5 bot lane in the world. Definitely the best in NA. Chauster wasn't as good as Madlife back then and he certainly isn't as good as Madlife now though.

This is their first day of scrims I believe. Give him some time and a few weeks of LCS before judging him. But yeah, he looked bad, I don't think NA supports of today are the much better than Chauster was in his prime personally (although patoy Zyra and Daydreamin Blitz are both sick as hell).


They also played in Korea shortly, and from what I recall of interviews from that time, they were beating Korean bot lanes(at that time). So, they definitely were on the right track to be a top bot lane, then they switched stuff around because they don't know what future means.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 31 2013 01:21 GMT
#4298
On May 31 2013 09:38 Spaiku wrote:
I got into LoL at the end of season 2 so i'm not familiar with Chauster as a support. I've only seen him as a jungler with 50 cs by 40 minutes into the game sitting on top of Doublelift.

Were they really the best bot lane in the world? Why did he stop playing support? Does he have to potencial to be a great support again? His mechanics look really bad -_-, at least Aphro was good at that.

I may be wrong (don't know much about Chauster/Dlift bot in the past) but to me it seems like they will be decent in NA like Aphro/Dlift was and they will get destroyed in Worlds.

Probably top 2-3 support/botlane combo imo.
When they were in OGN, Korean teams had to change their strategy to deal with Doublelift and Chauster. Supposedly 2v1 lane popularity evolved because of this.
liftlift > tsm
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 01:26:38
May 31 2013 01:24 GMT
#4299
On May 31 2013 10:20 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 10:07 overt wrote:
On May 31 2013 09:38 Spaiku wrote:
I got into LoL at the end of season 2 so i'm not familiar with Chauster as a support. I've only seen him as a jungler with 50 cs by 40 minutes into the game sitting on top of Doublelift.

Were they really the best bot lane in the world? Why did he stop playing support? Does he have to potencial to be a great support again? His mechanics look really bad -_-, at least Aphro was good at that.

I may be wrong (don't know much about Chauster/Dlift bot in the past) but to me it seems like they will be decent in NA like Aphro/Dlift was and they will get destroyed in Worlds.


They were probably top 5 bot lane in the world. Definitely the best in NA. Chauster wasn't as good as Madlife back then and he certainly isn't as good as Madlife now though.

This is their first day of scrims I believe. Give him some time and a few weeks of LCS before judging him. But yeah, he looked bad, I don't think NA supports of today are the much better than Chauster was in his prime personally (although patoy Zyra and Daydreamin Blitz are both sick as hell).


They also played in Korea shortly, and from what I recall of interviews from that time, they were beating Korean bot lanes(at that time). So, they definitely were on the right track to be a top bot lane, then they switched stuff around because they don't know what future means.


Yeah, they usually won bot lane but every other lane lost and they'd get camped every game so it wasn't like Double would get any real advantage over the enemy ADC. Also Madlife for example had to play with locodoco and then Woong who were both fairly average (I'm sorry I love you loco) and the #1 ADC in Korea at the time was CptJack who is not all that great to be honest.

They were definitely up there. Maybe even top 3 bot lane instead of top 5. But that's all irrelevant now. It'd be like if CLG got Hotshot back to top lane, saintvicious back to jungle, and jiji back in mid lane then boasted that they were once #1 in the world with that team. I'm sure people would get pumped to see that again but that doesn't mean it'd be good.

edit:
I'm not trying to sound like such a downer. I'm hopeful about chauster as a support. I just think it's dumb that Double keeps bringing up how good they used to be. I will say that if Chauster never left support for jungle I think CLG would've looked completely different over the course of the past eight months. I don't think they would've gone to relegations for example.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 31 2013 01:32 GMT
#4300
So if the league system's trying to drag you down to your appropriate league according to MMR, you'll gain less than you lose. I'm assuming the opposite's true as well?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
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