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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 30 2013 18:11 GMT
#4161
On May 31 2013 03:03 TheYango wrote:
No, I'd rather just play normals and not hear everyone bitch about solo queue day in and day out.

I always thought ELO being shown was one of the biggest appeal for competitive gamers when coming into LoL.
liftlift > tsm
Nobu
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 18:19:18
May 30 2013 18:14 GMT
#4162
On May 31 2013 03:03 TheYango wrote:
No, I'd rather just play normals and not hear everyone bitch about solo queue day in and day out.


Can't you be happy playing soloQ and not caring at all about your league? I can't see how getting a normal game with everybody arguing about who called mid first could be any fun
"There's farmers and there's gamers, farmers get up early, gamers sleep in." Artosis
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 30 2013 18:15 GMT
#4163
Except people do that in ranked also.
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Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
May 30 2013 18:16 GMT
#4164
On May 31 2013 03:14 Nobu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 03:03 TheYango wrote:
No, I'd rather just play normals and not hear everyone bitch about solo queue day in and day out.


Can't you be happy playing soloQ and not caring at all about your league? I can see how getting a normal game with everybody arguing about who called mid first could be any fun


Haha, I always thought that was way worse in Solo-queue.
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
Nobu
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain550 Posts
May 30 2013 18:17 GMT
#4165
Dunno in US, but in EU, people respect pick order 95% of the games at any elo.
"There's farmers and there's gamers, farmers get up early, gamers sleep in." Artosis
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 30 2013 18:17 GMT
#4166
On May 31 2013 03:11 Noro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 02:59 TheYango wrote:
On May 31 2013 02:51 Numy wrote:
The promotion system completely screws the system up. That and not going down tiers. Otherwise I think there would be nothing wrong with this since it's basically viewing MMR brackets instead of just the number where people confuse insignificant change as something significant

I concluded that having no visible rating/leagues of any kind and just a top 100 list or similar would make everyone happier.

Either:
- You don't care about the competitive environment of ranked, and would rather not have it be the e-penis ruler that's on everyone's minds (and I guarantee you there are plenty of people who just play ranked because they feel pressured to get X or Y rating/league).
- You do care about playing competitively, and are good enough to measure your own improvement. Visible rating isn't a big deal for you because you have a good enough sense of your own ability to track your improvement regardless.
- You do care about playing competitively, but aren't good enough to measure your own improvement. In this case, no visible rating is still better because even if you are not improving, you are happier deluding yourself into thinking you're improving than knowing that you aren't.


You just described normals though didn't you? The whole point of ranked is to have a visual standing of where you are in terms of "skill" (obviously an arbitrary term but I can't think of another word for it, ladder rank, I guess).

If people's enjoyment is hindered based on ladder points, just play Normals ^^ but honestly I think Ranked is doing what it's supposed to do.

The problem is that the very existence of a ranked queue MAKES normals into a second-class queue. A lot of high Elo players just play ranked the way you'd expect normals to be played (pick random heroes, troll around, dont give a fuck). But they do it in ranked just because that's the way it's done.
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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 18:28:51
May 30 2013 18:23 GMT
#4167
Heartbeat's stream is really enjoyable, good commentary, Kpop, and plays lol.

http://www.twitch.tv/heartbeatttlol
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 30 2013 18:24 GMT
#4168
so just played Diana again for the first time on live patch, seems like she's still fine, definitely still one of the hardest snowballing champs.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 30 2013 18:25 GMT
#4169
On May 31 2013 03:17 Nobu wrote:
Dunno in US, but in EU, people respect pick order 95% of the games at any elo.


Same. Although you get the odd guy that you just kind of let have his way because you got this gut feeling if he doesn't the game is going to be rubbish.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 30 2013 18:26 GMT
#4170


Damn, Machinima needs to keep making these player vids; they're really good.
liftlift > tsm
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
May 30 2013 18:29 GMT
#4171
On May 31 2013 03:26 wei2coolman wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjxFWARqhus&feature=player_embedded#!

Damn, Machinima needs to keep making these player vids; they're really good.


Yeah, I didn't know much about Regi and always just thought he was an immature dick. I have a lot more respect for him after seeing this video, though.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Rookie6
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 18:40:32
May 30 2013 18:39 GMT
#4172
Hey guys, I'm just getting back to LoL after a short break and I missed Quinn's patch and her free week.

What is the general opinion about her? Why people don't play her much in soloq or tournaments? Is she being played most in Top or Bot lane?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 30 2013 18:43 GMT
#4173
On May 31 2013 03:26 wei2coolman wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjxFWARqhus&feature=player_embedded#!

Damn, Machinima needs to keep making these player vids; they're really good.

These are so good.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 19:20:42
May 30 2013 18:53 GMT
#4174
Riot's apology system:

Skins for KR
RP for NA
4 IP boost for EUW

EUW is like the children Riot never wanted -_-
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 30 2013 18:54 GMT
#4175
On May 31 2013 03:53 Mensol wrote:
Riot's apology system:

Skina for KR
RP for NA
4 IP boost for EUW

EUW is like the children Riot never wanted -_-

Considering all the QQ; can you blame them?
liftlift > tsm
Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
May 30 2013 18:55 GMT
#4176
On May 31 2013 03:53 Mensol wrote:
Riot's apology system:

Skina for KR
RP for NA
4 IP boost for EUW

EUW is like the children Riot never wanted -_-


Yo IP Boosts OP!
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23463 Posts
May 30 2013 18:57 GMT
#4177
i hope riot doesnt give anything to EUW because you whiners need STOP VINING
aka Teutonica
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
May 30 2013 19:00 GMT
#4178
On May 31 2013 03:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 03:53 Mensol wrote:
Riot's apology system:

Skina for KR
RP for NA
4 IP boost for EUW

EUW is like the children Riot never wanted -_-

Considering all the QQ; can you blame them?



But:

"At this point in time there's just a difference in communication philosophy here, but at no point was there the intention to make you feel like second-class citizens" - Quote RIOT Pwyff


Yeah, good way to make the mob even angrier. I couldn't care less about whatever we get as a compensation, but saying that we shouldn't feel like second-class citizens and then award with 4 IP boost isn't exactly smart in my eyes.
hi
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
May 30 2013 19:01 GMT
#4179
I was searching for something on TL and came across this thread earlier today.

For me personally: We cover ALL games on Live On Three and GameSpot eSports. Not just StarCraft 2. Not just FGC. CounterStrike. And definitely not just Dota 2 or League of Legends. It's all games - including LoL. I have had several LoL pros on the show (Alex Ich twice, Dyrus, HotShotGG, SoaZ, and Riot Games themselves). The only reason we didn't cover LoL AllStars yesterday was because of what happened during our FGC segment, kind of got out of hand.

As for Travis, he's been brought on to do content with me at GameSpot eSports because of his hard work, dedication, and contacts. He's had my full support in creating content, and I think he's done a damn good job at doing it thus far. Expect only more to come.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
May 30 2013 19:03 GMT
#4180
Quick summary of the regi vid anyone?

na.lolesports.com/season3/allstar/articles/changes-team-ownership-na-lcs

I really REALLY hope C9 develop a pseudo Frost/Blaze thing. It's such a good idea that so many teams (not just NA) should implement.

So much more excited for the summer split. I really think (not just blindly fanboying) that TSM will secure a spot at worlds, but the other seeds - literally no idea. So many good teams!!
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
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