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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 11 2013 14:00 GMT
#401
On April 11 2013 22:58 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 22:56 AsnSensation wrote:
well is there anyone besides liquid anyway?:D

Dan...Dinh...?


Afaik Dan has stated a few times that he is like only the house manager but doesn't really take part in TSM's game.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 11 2013 14:04 GMT
#402
Having it in your inventory isn't really "wasted stats" though. It's bonus HP on demand, so it's almost exactly like having HP (and to a lesser extent AD) on an item up until 3 minutes after you drink it.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
April 11 2013 14:11 GMT
#403
On April 11 2013 22:58 Purge wrote:
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On April 11 2013 18:14 Shikyo wrote:
It wasn't really nicely x_x But yeah ...

About how I feel about the actual change, I like it. Now people need to put some thought into their openings instead of just opening 11 or 9 pots and getting freefarm with the opponent feeling like a dummy trying to harrass... Even though this is probably going to nerf Mordekaizer even more. I wish they also nerfed the fort pot start somehow, for example make it give 10-20 AD and make the hp scale more heavily per level, while increasing the cost. This would make it stronger for lategame but would nerf the fort pot starts somewhat... So that you're actually rewarded more for keeping it in your inventory for a while instead of going for an allin at like lvl 2.


Keeping it in your inventory is always going to punish you after some point because you are spending gold on stats you dont have. And they did nerf it by increasing the cost (or did that change not go through?) to 325.

You don't NEED the health until you are low enough that... you need the health. And then it's there for you. The only way it's not strong is if you force it out really early, then wait it out. (Or kill them anyway.)
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
April 11 2013 14:12 GMT
#404
im first gg
i wish riot would give me better ping
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 11 2013 14:14 GMT
#405
On April 11 2013 22:56 Alaric wrote:
Sivir also had an AP ratio randomly slapped to her Q at some point (right after her remake, amongst several nerfs).

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On April 11 2013 10:33 Gahlo wrote:
Well, potion limits is a Viktor buff, yes?

I didn't even think of that but... between the fortitude elixir nerf and that change, yes. :D

Potion change is a buff to any champ that relies on harassing an enemy out of lane. Viktor is going to have a field day though.
It's your boy Guzma!
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
April 11 2013 14:15 GMT
#406
Maknoon and Locodoco both grab the number one spot for their respective roles. This is fantastic stuff. All we need to do is somehow get Woong and RingTroll in the team as well, and listen to teamspeak. Experienced gamers with a lot of history behind them talking out their differences. It's professional gaming and soap opera rolled in one!
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Kaldr
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia67 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 14:17:22
April 11 2013 14:16 GMT
#407
On April 11 2013 22:36 phyvo wrote:
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On April 11 2013 22:33 Gahlo wrote:
Quinn's Q has a .5 AP ratio on it on the PBE. What is Riot hoping to accomplish in doing that? lol


Obv Quinn is a hybrid now and can build all those wicked awesome hybrid items like rageblade and hextech gunblade which she couldn't build before. Will totally make her viable.

...but really WHAT?

It makes building Trinity Force a tiny bit better, although the ap ratio makes me want to try IBG Quinn after reading the reasoning behind IBG Corki today which I also have to try.

On April 11 2013 22:37 AsmodeusXI wrote:
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On April 11 2013 22:33 Gahlo wrote:
Quinn's Q has a .5 AP ratio on it on the PBE. What is Riot hoping to accomplish in doing that? lol


Seriously, I saw that change and I was like "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat."

WHEN WOULD SHE EVER BUILD AP?!

Guinsoo's/Nashor's Quinn inc.

Might be fun to try building Zhonya's as a defensive item on Quinn since you could swoop in as Valor and use the active when you get focus fire, also Twin Shadows could be interesting on mid Quinn vs AP and vs AD you could turn your cloth5 start into seekers (not that I play mid Quinn but its fun to think of how adding the ratio could effect builds).
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
April 11 2013 14:27 GMT
#408
On April 11 2013 23:12 locodoco wrote:
im first gg

What is happening here. Did I miss something ?
The legend of Darien lives on
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 14:32:18
April 11 2013 14:29 GMT
#409
On April 11 2013 23:27 mr_tolkien wrote:
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On April 11 2013 23:12 locodoco wrote:
im first gg

What is happening here. Did I miss something ?



Korean All-Stars Team vote
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Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1947 Posts
April 11 2013 14:29 GMT
#410
I am a bit worried about the EU-All-Star team. At the moment, we would send Diamonprox, Alex Ich, Wicked, Genja and Edward. Not that i for my part do not welcome our new russion overlords, but that the only one not from Gambit is Wicked....

Support spot is even better. First ist with 55% Edward, second with 29%....Krepo. nrated is 4th with 5.87. WTF? I've got no problem with Edward being first, but krepo second and nrated 20 % behind him is really hurting

At least Ocelot is on place 4 with 10% :D
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 11 2013 14:33 GMT
#411
On April 11 2013 23:29 Broetchenholer wrote:
I am a bit worried about the EU-All-Star team. At the moment, we would send Diamonprox, Alex Ich, Wicked, Genja and Edward. Not that i for my part do not welcome our new russion overlords, but that the only one not from Gambit is Wicked....

Support spot is even better. First ist with 55% Edward, second with 29%....Krepo. nrated is 4th with 5.87. WTF? I've got no problem with Edward being first, but krepo second and nrated 20 % behind him is really hurting

At least Ocelot is on place 4 with 10% :D

They can only send 3 players from the same team and Diamond said he isn't going to go (I assume because of the language barrier). sOAZ is starting to catch Wickd in the vote.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
April 11 2013 14:35 GMT
#412
On April 11 2013 23:33 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 23:29 Broetchenholer wrote:
I am a bit worried about the EU-All-Star team. At the moment, we would send Diamonprox, Alex Ich, Wicked, Genja and Edward. Not that i for my part do not welcome our new russion overlords, but that the only one not from Gambit is Wicked....

Support spot is even better. First ist with 55% Edward, second with 29%....Krepo. nrated is 4th with 5.87. WTF? I've got no problem with Edward being first, but krepo second and nrated 20 % behind him is really hurting

At least Ocelot is on place 4 with 10% :D

They can only send 3 players from the same team and Diamond said he isn't going to go (I assume because of the language barrier). sOAZ is starting to catch Wickd in the vote.

kev1n must be so sad and so am I.
Chun-li since ST
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 14:44:41
April 11 2013 14:43 GMT
#413
gg Loco vs Double inc, I'm ready, although NA will probably chicken out with a 1v2 swap even if they are on blue side to avoid 2v2 :D madlife vs xpecial is not even close.

e: omfg Loco+Madlife lane, good old MIG times the feels.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
April 11 2013 14:46 GMT
#414
xPeke is 0.5% behind Alex Ich, Soaz is 2.4% behind Wickd. Close enough for change, so don't give up voting for your favorites.

Honestly I wish people would just embrace that this is a popularity contest. Feel free to vote with your head, but there's no need to rage at other people who are voting with their heart.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 11 2013 15:09 GMT
#415
I don't really see anything wrong with those, ADC and jungler are what I'd be worried about.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1947 Posts
April 11 2013 15:22 GMT
#416
Oh come on, Krepo is really not the player you would want to represent your region. I mean, i like watching his stream, he is a nice and likeable guy, but, well, in the end, he is still second, so whatever.

I guess i should be the most surprised by froggen actually being beaten as third behind peke.
benefluence
Profile Joined January 2010
United States158 Posts
April 11 2013 15:33 GMT
#417
On April 11 2013 22:56 Alaric wrote:
Sivir also had an AP ratio randomly slapped to her Q at some point (right after her remake, amongst several nerfs).



Pretty sure Sivir had an AP ratio on Q before the remake, and the change afterward was just restoring it.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 11 2013 15:38 GMT
#418
Honestly after the recent buffs Quinn might be fine if they just gave her ult 10 / 20 / 30 armor and magic resist or something
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 15:40:55
April 11 2013 15:40 GMT
#419
Eh for Quinn you get free damage on Q if you lane with Sona so a nice freebie I guess? It's a tiny difference but still free dmg so I'll take it.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 15:43:19
April 11 2013 15:41 GMT
#420
On April 12 2013 00:38 Shikyo wrote:
Honestly after the recent buffs Quinn might be fine if they just gave her ult 10 / 20 / 30 armor and magic resist or something

My poor bruiser nidalee ;_;

I could live without the scaling MR (That's a lot to give a ranged champ) but why take away the cougar resists? AD/Bruiser brawl-in-cougar-form was never the problem with nidalee.

Still sore.
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