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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 25 2013 21:51 schmutttt wrote: Dyrus seems like a nice guy and is a great player but not the most eloquent I think. I agree. When I hear scarra and WoDx talking, it's often pretty clear that those two went to college and had some reasonably good education; when I hear voyboy talking it's pretty clear that he is a very smart individual who will certainly succeed in college. Dyrus? Not so much. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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GreyWander
21 Posts
I never tried Rumble and I didn't like Jayce. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
On April 26 2013 03:22 GreyWander wrote: Out of the ones I play, Voli has some lanes he just wins and GP can do really well if you get ahead or if the other player is worse than you. I never tried Rumble and I didn't like Jayce. try singed, bestchamp riot ever made. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
On April 26 2013 03:14 cLutZ wrote: http://www.reignofgaming.net/redtracker/topic/93938-morello-shyvana-players-are-dying-to-know-riot-has-any-plans-for-her I don't understand what Riot thinks the jungle is. If you are talking about soloQ, Shyvana is still fine, except that she is just outright worse than the pony (and IMO mundo). If we are talking about competitive, the problem is that the only clear that matters is the first clear. Riot hasn't known what the jungle is for ages. Source: Season 3 jungle. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 26 2013 03:36 Phunkapotamus wrote: Riot hasn't known what the jungle is for ages. Source: Season 3 jungle. Not just the jungle. There seems to fundamentally always be a certain disconnect between how Riot thinks their game is played, and how it's actually played. On the issue of Shyvana, people just got attached to the idea of running her in the jungle when I don't see what about her kit fundamentally makes her a jungler. She was a strong jungler in the period of time when AoE clearing was abusively faster than single-target clearing--that's pretty much it. In terms of the things a jungler is expected to provide, she's not exactly that amazing at many of them. Add to this the fact that she's a resourceless champ with decent laning abilities and pretty heavy farm demand. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
I saw some soaz I think try it recently though but he built way too much damage when shyv does a lot of base damage and just a wits end is more than enough until lategame at least her laning phase has problems because of lack of sustain and good gap closing but she can clear really fast so she might be able to play similar to singed | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
imo she's really fun in lane. i dunno what the hell she's doing in the jungle. i wonder if you can play her mid... | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On April 26 2013 03:53 kainzero wrote: shyv with hydra is hilarious wave clear. aa+Q+hydra active = no more wave. imo she's really fun in lane. i dunno what the hell she's doing in the jungle. i wonder if you can play her mid... Melee without sustain or gapclosers doesn't really work mid imo  . | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
What the hell am I supposed to do? The odd time my support doesn't just lose automatically for me, I can farm up to the point where I'm relevant, but other times, even if that happens, we get a combination of zed jungle with kayle and nida solo lanes and there's just nothing we can do. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On April 26 2013 03:53 kainzero wrote: shyv with hydra is hilarious wave clear. aa+Q+hydra active = no more wave. imo she's really fun in lane. i dunno what the hell she's doing in the jungle. i wonder if you can play her mid... or just get warmogs press w and wait 5 more seconsd | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On April 26 2013 04:00 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: is there a single AD who handily beats Draven in lane? Without a support I can depend on, who picks appropriately, I feel utterly helpless against that champion. 9 times out of 10 my support will straight-up lose the lane for me by hard engaging early on, despite the fact that I tell EVERY support I lane with in solo queue NOT to, because he gets so much bonus AD and will out-trade fucking everyone. What the hell am I supposed to do? The odd time my support doesn't just lose automatically for me, I can farm up to the point where I'm relevant, but other times, even if that happens, we get a combination of zed jungle with kayle and nida solo lanes and there's just nothing we can do. Handily no.Varus and cait are only 2 imo(but cait only if you can outplay him).This comes from a draven main but yeah his laning is rather op. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Mensol
14536 Posts
On April 26 2013 04:00 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: is there a single AD who handily beats Draven in lane? Without a support I can depend on, who picks appropriately, I feel utterly helpless against that champion. 9 times out of 10 my support will straight-up lose the lane for me by hard engaging early on, despite the fact that I tell EVERY support I lane with in solo queue NOT to, because he gets so much bonus AD and will out-trade fucking everyone. What the hell am I supposed to do? The odd time my support doesn't just lose automatically for me, I can farm up to the point where I'm relevant, but other times, even if that happens, we get a combination of zed jungle with kayle and nida solo lanes and there's just nothing we can do. without a supprt you can depend on? i dont think so <.< but Cait/janna can handle draven/xsupport pretty well. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On April 26 2013 04:04 Cixah wrote: I've been beating Draven with Ez, but its not because I'm dueling him. I think just straight 1v1ing draven or getting 2v1'd (shitty support) is just something you can't ever do. You can poke him out really well, especially with Lizard Elder + Sheen, and once you get 6 just r/e/q him from the bush and auto for the last ~200 hp he has. If you just run vamp quints and go double doran/vamp you can ALMOST completely ignore all those pokey champs as draven.Especially ez is one of the easiest to beat(as any adc for that matter). | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On April 26 2013 04:06 nafta wrote: If you just run vamp quints and go double doran/vamp you can ALMOST completely ignore all those pokey champs as draven.Especially ez is one of the easiest to beat(as any adc for that matter). Yea but in silver most dravens are still doing the ALL THE AD ALL OF THE TIMES pages. And start long sword. | ||
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