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On February 04 2013 08:43 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 08:10 nafta wrote:On February 04 2013 08:05 onlywonderboy wrote:Guys I need help, I want to start ranked soon but want to refine my champion pool a little bit before I get started. Here's a rough list of what I was thinking at the moment Top: Wukong, Kennen, Olaf, Kha
Jungle: Hec Kayle (Xin?)
Mid: Kha'zix, Kayle
ADC: Ez, Graves
Support: Zyra, Lulu ADC is my worst role so I try to avoid that as much as possible. I'm pretty comfortable with Support, Mid, and Jungle but Top has been giving me some trouble. If there's anyone that's pretty easy that I could get good at Top I'm open to suggestions. Thoughts? The mute button is your biggest ally.Just keep that in mind.Your champ pool seems ok you could try darius top and xin/jarvan for top/mid/jungle. You're your own biggest ally. Drop the ego and don't be so insecure that you can't handle some random idiot flaming you. There's usually useful feedback in there.
All caps random words.Yea sure good feedback.70 cs mid in 24 minutes who counterpicked 0 ganks from enemy.Legit feedback.Most of the time you if you did something dumb you know it.Obviously I'm not advocating ignoring every person who dares question anything you do.But always in flaming teams it's like a good luck charm to just ignore all 4 and go do your thing.At least for me.
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On February 04 2013 08:48 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 08:43 Slayer91 wrote:On February 04 2013 08:10 nafta wrote:On February 04 2013 08:05 onlywonderboy wrote:Guys I need help, I want to start ranked soon but want to refine my champion pool a little bit before I get started. Here's a rough list of what I was thinking at the moment Top: Wukong, Kennen, Olaf, Kha
Jungle: Hec Kayle (Xin?)
Mid: Kha'zix, Kayle
ADC: Ez, Graves
Support: Zyra, Lulu ADC is my worst role so I try to avoid that as much as possible. I'm pretty comfortable with Support, Mid, and Jungle but Top has been giving me some trouble. If there's anyone that's pretty easy that I could get good at Top I'm open to suggestions. Thoughts? The mute button is your biggest ally.Just keep that in mind.Your champ pool seems ok you could try darius top and xin/jarvan for top/mid/jungle. You're your own biggest ally. Drop the ego and don't be so insecure that you can't handle some random idiot flaming you. There's usually useful feedback in there. All caps random words.Yea sure good feedback.70 cs mid in 24 minutes who counterpicked 0 ganks from enemy.Legit feedback.Most of the time you if you did something dumb you know it.Obviously I'm not advocating ignoring every person who dares question anything you do.But always in flaming teams it's like a good luck charm to just ignore all 4 and go do your thing.At least for me.
You're just whining about teammates playing worse than you which doesnt matter because you won't see them again more often than not, while it doesnt matter how bad they are if you could have ganked his lane and gotten a kill it's still a good decision.
Nobody ever flames a player playing perfectly, and thats the benchmark.
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On February 04 2013 08:51 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 08:48 nafta wrote:On February 04 2013 08:43 Slayer91 wrote:On February 04 2013 08:10 nafta wrote:On February 04 2013 08:05 onlywonderboy wrote:Guys I need help, I want to start ranked soon but want to refine my champion pool a little bit before I get started. Here's a rough list of what I was thinking at the moment Top: Wukong, Kennen, Olaf, Kha
Jungle: Hec Kayle (Xin?)
Mid: Kha'zix, Kayle
ADC: Ez, Graves
Support: Zyra, Lulu ADC is my worst role so I try to avoid that as much as possible. I'm pretty comfortable with Support, Mid, and Jungle but Top has been giving me some trouble. If there's anyone that's pretty easy that I could get good at Top I'm open to suggestions. Thoughts? The mute button is your biggest ally.Just keep that in mind.Your champ pool seems ok you could try darius top and xin/jarvan for top/mid/jungle. You're your own biggest ally. Drop the ego and don't be so insecure that you can't handle some random idiot flaming you. There's usually useful feedback in there. All caps random words.Yea sure good feedback.70 cs mid in 24 minutes who counterpicked 0 ganks from enemy.Legit feedback.Most of the time you if you did something dumb you know it.Obviously I'm not advocating ignoring every person who dares question anything you do.But always in flaming teams it's like a good luck charm to just ignore all 4 and go do your thing.At least for me. You're just whining about teammates playing worse than you which doesnt matter because you won't see them again more often than not, while it doesnt matter how bad they are if you could have ganked his lane and gotten a kill it's still a good decision. Nobody ever flames a player playing perfectly, and thats the benchmark.
Considering ignoring players also reduces chance you'll get em in your team don't see what's the problem.If I am ad should I just go roam to snowball other lanes at 8 minutes?Everyone has bad games I won't flame people or w/e but when someone who is feeding super hard starts flaming the team that to me that is a person I don't want in my games and prefer to not see what he has to say.
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On February 04 2013 08:51 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 08:48 nafta wrote:On February 04 2013 08:43 Slayer91 wrote:On February 04 2013 08:10 nafta wrote:On February 04 2013 08:05 onlywonderboy wrote:Guys I need help, I want to start ranked soon but want to refine my champion pool a little bit before I get started. Here's a rough list of what I was thinking at the moment Top: Wukong, Kennen, Olaf, Kha
Jungle: Hec Kayle (Xin?)
Mid: Kha'zix, Kayle
ADC: Ez, Graves
Support: Zyra, Lulu ADC is my worst role so I try to avoid that as much as possible. I'm pretty comfortable with Support, Mid, and Jungle but Top has been giving me some trouble. If there's anyone that's pretty easy that I could get good at Top I'm open to suggestions. Thoughts? The mute button is your biggest ally.Just keep that in mind.Your champ pool seems ok you could try darius top and xin/jarvan for top/mid/jungle. You're your own biggest ally. Drop the ego and don't be so insecure that you can't handle some random idiot flaming you. There's usually useful feedback in there. All caps random words.Yea sure good feedback.70 cs mid in 24 minutes who counterpicked 0 ganks from enemy.Legit feedback.Most of the time you if you did something dumb you know it.Obviously I'm not advocating ignoring every person who dares question anything you do.But always in flaming teams it's like a good luck charm to just ignore all 4 and go do your thing.At least for me. You're just whining about teammates playing worse than you which doesnt matter because you won't see them again more often than not, while it doesnt matter how bad they are if you could have ganked his lane and gotten a kill it's still a good decision. Nobody ever flames a player playing perfectly, and thats the benchmark.
No, you're wrong. Many people flame players playing perfectly as a defense mechanism.
Mute button is seriously very important for winning ranked. It's not a matter of handling criticism or not, it's usually people are looking to start a fight with whoever they can get to pay attention to them so they insult and provoke and no matter how you respond they'll keep raging. Best response is to not respond and why should you listen to some retard insult people when you can just mute them and enjoy the game? And sure they might give useful feedback but when you have to spend 10 minutes saying OKAY IT WAS MY FAULT IM SORRY I DIDNT MEAN TO MAKE YOU FEED what's the point?
Best advice on solo q I ever got was from my diamond friend who said "i just mute everyone and play like it's a bot game."
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I don't think muting your team is always a good idea but disabling all chat is the best thing I did since I started playing LoL
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That only matters if you get pissed off and provoked by these people. Often you can diffuse situations later in the game when people get too stuck in the past. I've been in both sides of the whole "team doing badly - couple guys try to stay positive and focus people when flaming starts - end up winning" I've also been in games when I didnt say anything all game and my bot is losing and the jungler gets mad or something and they surrender when we're behind and I'm still top lane like 4-1 and i'm like wtf? shoulda said something and tried to group up and do something with them
I think generally commuication is better. If you do badly and get flamed you can at least say sorry I played bad got ganked at bad times and lane snowballed, and people at least know you're trying.
Also "people flame people playing perfectly as a defense mechanism". Nobody has ever played perfectly so it's hard to say that. Often this is a case of a jungler not making mistakes and making positive plays but not being at this guys lane at the right time which is not easy to do but often you could have been there at the right time and reversed a gank completely.
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It's pretty sad when you prefer to ignore even the decent people rather than have to deal with the average league player :/.
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Muting preemptively should definitely be hurting your win-rate. Communication is like the single biggest factor in winning a solo-queue game. Basically every game of LoL boils down to who pings baron first and has his 4 teammates follow him.
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But muting gets rid of all the hilariousness that comes forth.
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shake is quieter than usual on destiny stream :c
we want to hear your sexy voice
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The way I see it is that it's better to try to drop the ego and accept the 70% of flaming for the 30% of important communication.
And yeah, with all-chat, it's often a source of hilarity, between serious guys saying dumb but funny shit and non serious guys riling up the other guys and it's comedy gold.
I oftne dont read when I see people are flaming and there's nothing constructive in there I won't pay any attention but often people calm down and a bit of communication is important sometimes.
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Yeah, I usually only mute people if they are just spamming and flaming for no reason. I usually give them the benefit of the doubt if they do it once but if they keep going all game ad nauseum I just get annoyed.
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On February 04 2013 09:10 Slayer91 wrote:
The way I see it is that it's better to try to drop the ego and accept the 70% of flaming for the 30% of important communication.
And yeah, with all-chat, it's often a source of hilarity, between serious guys saying dumb but funny shit and non serious guys riling up the other guys and it's comedy gold.
I oftne dont read when I see people are flaming and there's nothing constructive in there I won't pay any attention but often people calm down and a bit of communication is important sometimes.
I really doubt anyone ignores just because of ego lol.Even if players are doing well and they just write 24/7 all caps garbage I'll ignore them.Happens very often a xin or something gets snowballed then he starts flaming and goes negative after being 5/0.Most of them claim they are smurfs of 2800 elo too ^^.
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I only rage to vent my frustration at my own play. I shouldn't, but sometimes I can't help it.
Never ignored a single person for flaming, I rather eat their shit talk and keep the ability to actually communicate baron calls and stuff like that. Spam on the other hand, muted in a second. There is nothing worse than not being able to see the baron time stamp in chat because someone decided to spam the whole chat with random shit.
If you messed up and get flamed for it, say "my bad" or something like that and don't reply if he continues to flame. If you think you did the right thing, and still get flamed for it, just don't reply. No need to get worked up and lose a game because your team is falling apart.
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On February 04 2013 09:06 Slayer91 wrote:
That only matters if you get pissed off and provoked by these people. Often you can diffuse situations later in the game when people get too stuck in the past. I've been in both sides of the whole "team doing badly - couple guys try to stay positive and focus people when flaming starts - end up winning" I've also been in games when I didnt say anything all game and my bot is losing and the jungler gets mad or something and they surrender when we're behind and I'm still top lane like 4-1 and i'm like wtf? shoulda said something and tried to group up and do something with them
I think generally commuication is better. If you do badly and get flamed you can at least say sorry I played bad got ganked at bad times and lane snowballed, and people at least know you're trying.
Also "people flame people playing perfectly as a defense mechanism". Nobody has ever played perfectly so it's hard to say that. Often this is a case of a jungler not making mistakes and making positive plays but not being at this guys lane at the right time which is not easy to do but often you could have been there at the right time and reversed a gank completely.
I'm pretty sure you know what I mean in the same way that I know what you mean when I quote you saying "playing perfectly".
I dunno, I've played with the best players in this game and now I'm playing in fucking 1600. I can't handle the differential in how bad people are compared to how good they think they are so I just mute them. I don't care that I can possibly learn something from them because I'm really not going to learn something playing with 1600s that I didn't learn queueing with/into guys who are currently on professional teams. Honestly, if I listen to the people at this Elo, I get WORSE. I'm not trying to be an elitist jerk here, but seriously, what the fuck am I going to learn from these 1600s when most of my premades are plat/diamond?
Obviously I don't just mute everyone as soon as I get into the game, but if they start bitching or flaming at any point I just type "hey, ______, I muted you because I'll rage if I listen to you and I want to win" and play. As soon as I started doing this I went on a 15-2 winstreak or something. [edit] (I also say to someone who's not raging "hey, let me know if they say anything important" if communication is more important than this person not self-imploding.) [/edit]
It works for me because I'm better than the players at my Elo. If you're at around your true Elo I guess you can learn things.
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Just done watching Keyd vs LG-IM from IEM Sao Paulo since EUW is down and I had kept that time to play LoL, that was surprisingly tense with good teamfights.
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On February 04 2013 09:07 TheLink wrote:
Muting preemptively should definitely be hurting your win-rate. Communication is like the single biggest factor in winning a solo-queue game. Basically every game of LoL boils down to who pings baron first and has his 4 teammates follow him.
My game sense is better than about 99% of the players in this game, I can coordinate a baron with a well-placed ping and I don't need pings or chat to know when my team wants to baron.
Also, it's not pre-emptive, it's just as soon as they say anything stupid/mad/bad/insulting I mute them because the biggest issue with this game is someone raging their team out of a win.
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On February 04 2013 09:07 TheLink wrote:
Muting preemptively should definitely be hurting your win-rate. Communication is like the single biggest factor in winning a solo-queue game. Basically every game of LoL boils down to who pings baron first and has his 4 teammates follow him.
The amount of truth here amuses me greatly.
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On February 04 2013 09:10 komokun wrote:
shake is quieter than usual on destiny stream :c
we want to hear your sexy voice
Am i still quiet?
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