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On February 02 2013 08:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 08:39 nojitosunrise wrote:On February 02 2013 08:09 Gahlo wrote:
So what you're saying is I need to bring in more writers from Reddit... I would write for TL.... there are a million people who always say "ya i'd love to write/contribute/w\e for TL" and then they never do anything if you actually want to do something just go do it -_-
I was the same way, I kept talking about how I loved the TL content and would love it if became official on TL but hadn't done anything to help accomplish it. Eventually figured I should put forth some effort and PM'd Neo. Just gotta show some initiative.
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On February 02 2013 09:28 XenOmega wrote:
Playing with friends, we played against Salce and we got raped.
How the hell is Salce getting paired against us (normals)
i was 4-0 laning vs salce tyvm salce lucky my team blows
http://i.imgur.com/DKX6LXp.jpg
LOOK AT THAT MID EZREAL ONLY KILLS ON TEAM NO DEATHS WTF PROGAMER
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Hey guys just thought you'd like to know top lane tank Gragas still super strong. Give it a try. Good matchups are pretty much anyone that relies on attrition (Shen, Cho, etc.), some people who are squishy at low levels and can't deal with a moderately strong all-in, and melees without a good disengage.
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On February 02 2013 00:50 mockturtle wrote:
One of the assumptions of elo is that the results of a match are based on a normal distribution. Amusingly, we know now this is not actually the case with chess and it is almost certainly not the case with league of legends, but by being based on this assumption it makes elo actually pretty good for a broader applications than just chess.
Elo is based on the assumptions that the results of a match are a binary distribution (which it is). The sum of these binary distributions (no matter if they have difference variances or means) converges to a standard normal distribution by a central limit theorem. Note that this does not guarantee the shape of the skill distribution itself, simply that each players ELO itself is a normally distributed random variable.
The issue you're talking about is whether or not the actual skill distribution is normally distributed. And have a good reason to suspect that it isn't in chess (because there are so many amateurs ranked) we don't have a reason to suspect that in league (because players must compete in hundreds of games before playing ranked which should weed out the skew in the distribution). In addition we don't actually much care about the final distribution of player skill except as it translates to our ability to predict the outcome of games and since we want to match people with similar Elo's together and since Elo is roughly a partial order, we know that small differences in elo are likely to indicate small differences in skill, negating the effect of skewness in the distribution.
It does make it harder to match games in which skill distribution is very high, but this has always been very hard, so its not much of an issue.
The real issue on the distribution is that the expected elo of a new player to ranked is equal to the point where they are introduced. If this is not the same then we have some skewness and we should put new players in at that new point. If it isn't then we're probably pretty normal and don't have to worry about it. The expected elo of new players is very close to 1200.
On February 01 2013 22:11 mockturtle wrote:
I think what you are trying to say is that we know what elo is measursing, the effect an individual's presence has on the outcome of a match?
The main problem with elo is the same problem that any reasonably accurate or better rating system will always have: most people suck, will not get better, and are in denial about this fact. Don't get me wrong, elo itself has flaws and it was lazy/wrong of riot to utilize it in this capacity and after deciding to use it, they could have done a much better job in implementation. But these flaws are subtle and do not have very much to do with people who swear that they are "stuck in elo hell" and try to come up with rationalization after rationalization for why the system is broken, not their skills.
I was saying more that
1) We know what Elo is measuring which is "a players ability to win games"
2) This measurement isn't more or less accurate because of Elo. The flaws in the Elo system are a function of the information contained in the game, and so cannot be overcome by a "better system"
Basically the point is "don't sweat the rating system" because you're more or less hard limited by the information contained in each game, everything else is just how you display it.
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On February 02 2013 09:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 09:28 XenOmega wrote:
Playing with friends, we played against Salce and we got raped.
How the hell is Salce getting paired against us (normals) i was 4-0 laning vs salce tyvm salce lucky my team blows http://i.imgur.com/DKX6LXp.jpgLOOK AT THAT MID EZREAL ONLY KILLS ON TEAM NO DEATHS WTF PROGAMER
Obviously you suck. If you're good, you should be able to carry every game you ever play no matter your team or the enemy. If you can't, you deserve to lose ELO. Isn't that what this forum always says?
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Soooooo, why does Wukong show up as MonkeyKing in chat? Is it like the Cryo Egg thing they fixed with Anivia?
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On February 02 2013 09:37 HazMat wrote:
Soooooo, why does Wukong show up as MonkeyKing in chat? Is it like the Cryo Egg thing they fixed with Anivia?
Is it happening in game? I'm pretty sure MokneyKing is what his files are labeled under in the game folder.
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On February 02 2013 09:37 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 09:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On February 02 2013 09:28 XenOmega wrote:
Playing with friends, we played against Salce and we got raped.
How the hell is Salce getting paired against us (normals) i was 4-0 laning vs salce tyvm salce lucky my team blows http://i.imgur.com/DKX6LXp.jpgLOOK AT THAT MID EZREAL ONLY KILLS ON TEAM NO DEATHS WTF PROGAMER Obviously you suck. If you're good, you should be able to carry every game you ever play no matter your team or the enemy. If you can't, you deserve to lose ELO. Isn't that what this forum always says?
obviously i need shikyo qq therapy fking feeder team
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On February 02 2013 09:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 09:28 XenOmega wrote:
Playing with friends, we played against Salce and we got raped.
How the hell is Salce getting paired against us (normals) i was 4-0 laning vs salce tyvm salce lucky my team blows http://i.imgur.com/DKX6LXp.jpgLOOK AT THAT MID EZREAL ONLY KILLS ON TEAM NO DEATHS WTF PROGAMER
damn you csheep! I blame you
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On February 02 2013 07:07 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 06:51 Requizen wrote:On February 02 2013 06:49 HazMat wrote:On February 02 2013 06:45 NeoIllusions wrote:On February 02 2013 06:43 HazMat wrote:
Really, ranked stats are gone? As if we needed more reason to use LoLking.
Tinfoil hat: I think Riot owns LoLking and made a terrible client and terrible choices in order to get more people to use the LoLking site for more ad revenue /tinfoil hat You are so bad. Ranked stats are still there. League => bottom right, click on "See More Stats" => voila I should glue that tinfoil hat on your head. @_@ You know, I was sure there was a way. But I figured if I'd make a post like that someone would make fun of me and tell me how to get ranked stats instead of me having to look around for it. gg easy ban me i dare you + Show Spoiler + Reported for asking for a ban. I don't know if I should laugh extra hard at this or feel bad for wanting to. So, I'm in Zilean's Pyromancers. All of my what?
Me too!
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On February 02 2013 09:38 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 09:37 HazMat wrote:
Soooooo, why does Wukong show up as MonkeyKing in chat? Is it like the Cryo Egg thing they fixed with Anivia? Is it happening in game? I'm pretty sure MokneyKing is what his files are labeled under in the game folder.
It's an issue that just popped up with the last patch.
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This is so fucking dumb....I think of all of the hundreds of friends I have on my list, some of which I don't even know who they are or why they're on my list, only ONE is in the same Division as me.
And I have no clue who the fuck he is.
GG Riot.
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>_> If it makes you feel better wave I don't have a division yet but I will soon-ish. Maybe I get stuck in your division who knows..
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Malphite's Heroes. That's not terrible.
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That circlejerk so good.
What's neo interviewing people for?
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On February 02 2013 10:02 Chrispy wrote:That circlejerk so good. What's neo interviewing people for?
For when he takes over esports in a massive bloody coup and he needs to know who will be faithful to esports and who will need to be killed.
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Xin Zhao's Avengers would be pretty badass if it wasn't for the fact that Xin Zhao is on my list of champions whose design I hate and who I never want to play, play with, or play against. (With Tryndamere, Shaco and Lee Sin >_>)
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On February 02 2013 09:37 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 09:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On February 02 2013 09:28 XenOmega wrote:
Playing with friends, we played against Salce and we got raped.
How the hell is Salce getting paired against us (normals) i was 4-0 laning vs salce tyvm salce lucky my team blows http://i.imgur.com/DKX6LXp.jpgLOOK AT THAT MID EZREAL ONLY KILLS ON TEAM NO DEATHS WTF PROGAMER Obviously you suck. If you're good, you should be able to carry every game you ever play no matter your team or the enemy. If you can't, you deserve to lose ELO. Isn't that what this forum always says?
i'm not playing support, f you guys
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You just need to embrace Xin. Cuz he's awesome. So awesome.
Trust me, I used to hate him, and now we're best buds.
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EPT
