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[Patch 1.0.0.154: Preseason Balance Update 2] GD - Page 6

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c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
January 16 2013 04:54 GMT
#101
I'm liking these changes with regards to jungle AD malzahar - now you can buy Spirit of the Elder Lizard, Black Cleaver, and one other CDR item (Banner of Command or Shurelya's I'm thinking) to have enough CDR to get 3 voidlings out. The manamune buff, while small, might be something to try out to deal with Malz's mana issues.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
January 16 2013 04:58 GMT
#102
Interesting patch, hopefully the riven changes slow down her snowballing top.

I pick Kayle into riven (good choice), so opponent jungle Vi camps me for the first few levels, giving riven 1/2 a level, 10-15 cs lead. She gets her ult first and kills me. I return to lane, she kills me again even though I use my ult. She just snowballed from there. Will have to test it out, but hopefully the ult CD increase prevents this.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 16 2013 05:03 GMT
#103
So the Amumu ult change did not go through? Or was it really just a rewording?
Freeeeeeedom
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
January 16 2013 05:05 GMT
#104
as an ad carry i totally disapprove this patch....Ez nerf again, LW cost more.REAL????????
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 16 2013 05:10 GMT
#105
On January 16 2013 14:03 cLutZ wrote:
So the Amumu ult change did not go through? Or was it really just a rewording?

They aren't going through with the change, it was reverted on the last PBE patch.

On January 16 2013 13:29 samthesaluki wrote:
since pfe ezreal was released how many nerfs have they done to him shesh considering he was considered trash before (obv he wasnt) been so many nerfs

He's still played a ton, super safe in almost any situation. I think he needed some sort of nerf, I don't know if this was the right one, but he needed something.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
January 16 2013 05:13 GMT
#106
^ that arcane shift nerf like corki's W is needed,15s CD with my Q spamming all day makes it look like it doesnt have CD at all.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 16 2013 05:16 GMT
#107
On January 16 2013 14:05 justiceknight wrote:
as an ad carry i totally disapprove this patch....Ez nerf again, LW cost more.REAL????????


I don't find LW to be quite as important anymore since people are building a lot more health than armor not to mention the fact that it's fairly likely that at least one person on your team will build a BC.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 16 2013 05:19 GMT
#108
On January 16 2013 13:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 13:41 Roffles wrote:
On January 16 2013 13:25 Perplex wrote:
at 2:30 in the patch video smashgizmo dies on cho gath XD

Noob died many times in the patch video.


Long live Smash.


Ya that's the problem.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 16 2013 05:19 GMT
#109
On January 16 2013 13:46 Requizen wrote:
I literally have 100% win rate on Alacrity Swiftness boots over the 7 games where they've been viable (not wanting Sorc or Zerkers, mainly). ALWAYS FAST.


Did they change something recently, or do you mean in season 3 in general?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 16 2013 05:24 GMT
#110
Oh man, attaching cones is great. Will stop not casting by mistake now and should be a bit easier to understand for my newbie friends. Detached cones were so weird conceptually.
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remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
January 16 2013 05:25 GMT
#111
On January 16 2013 11:54 Dusty wrote:
They're fixing the cones on annie/morde/cho/riven

best change of this patch IMO



Counterpoint: pentakills.

+ Show Spoiler +
You now have a few extra seconds to finish a kill streak if the target is the last member of the team alive

Stay positive!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 05:35:48
January 16 2013 05:35 GMT
#112
On January 16 2013 14:25 remedium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 11:54 Dusty wrote:
They're fixing the cones on annie/morde/cho/riven

best change of this patch IMO



Counterpoint: pentakills.

+ Show Spoiler +
You now have a few extra seconds to finish a kill streak if the target is the last member of the team alive


Still, quadrakills are pretty rare and all this is going to do is add a few seconds onto a chase, not going to make them that much easier lol
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
January 16 2013 05:42 GMT
#113
On January 16 2013 14:25 remedium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 11:54 Dusty wrote:
They're fixing the cones on annie/morde/cho/riven

best change of this patch IMO



Counterpoint: pentakills.

+ Show Spoiler +
You now have a few extra seconds to finish a kill streak if the target is the last member of the team alive


Riot listens to pros. This was probably Phantomlord's request.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Anxiety
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States650 Posts
January 16 2013 05:49 GMT
#114
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/new-league-system-coming-soon-ranked

They basically are changing the ladder system to the Sc2 System, hidden MMR/Elo and all, but with no tier loss. I am personally not a fan of the changes, seems to produce the result of "How fucking far am I from X now" that I had in Sc2.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
January 16 2013 05:50 GMT
#115
Turret ai change will be interesting, as it makes it way easier to cs under tower, an probably makes minions better at killing towers?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 16 2013 05:50 GMT
#116
Vi really needed those buffs. Now she might actually feel somewhat smooth to play as. Especially the E changes are amazing.

Khazix nerfs not enough at all, who cared about isolated Q damage anyway? The hell...

No Zed nerfs but Talon nerfed to ground makes no sense either.

I really don't think Riven was strong enough to warrant those nerfs. There are many more problematic champions.

Syndra buffs were all right, could still use a bit more.

They finally Fixed Kassadin force pulse "sometimes" hitting the wrong way. I dropped Kassadin in early 2010 because his Force Pulse hit the opposite way every single time after ult, not "sometimes".
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 05:54:46
January 16 2013 05:52 GMT
#117
On January 16 2013 14:49 Anxiety wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/new-league-system-coming-soon-ranked

They basically are changing the ladder system to the Sc2 System, hidden MMR/Elo and all, but with no tier loss. I am personally not a fan of the changes, seems to produce the result of "How fucking far am I from X now" that I had in Sc2.

You are not alone, almost everyone here hates it, a lot of it was discussed in the last GD thread that's locked now.
On January 16 2013 14:50 Shikyo wrote:
Vi really needed those buffs. Now she might actually feel somewhat smooth to play as. Especially the E changes are amazing.

Khazix nerfs not enough at all, who cared about isolated Q damage anyway? The hell...

No Zed nerfs but Talon nerfed to ground makes no sense either.

I really don't think Riven was strong enough to warrant those nerfs. There are many more problematic champions.

Syndra buffs were all right, could still use a bit more.

They finally Fixed Kassadin force pulse "sometimes" hitting the wrong way. I dropped Kassadin in early 2010 because his Force Pulse hit the opposite way every single time after ult, not "sometimes".

Someone did the math, by fixing his damage amplification it's a nerf to his early/mid game, but his late game burst combo actually does more damage.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Anxiety
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States650 Posts
January 16 2013 05:54 GMT
#118
On January 16 2013 14:52 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 14:49 Anxiety wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/new-league-system-coming-soon-ranked

They basically are changing the ladder system to the Sc2 System, hidden MMR/Elo and all, but with no tier loss. I am personally not a fan of the changes, seems to produce the result of "How fucking far am I from X now" that I had in Sc2.

You are not alone, almost everyone here hates it, a lot of it was discussed in the last GD thread that's locked now.


My bad, I never checked the previous GD since I literally just saw it, and checking the time of the post release was overridden by dislike for the system.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
January 16 2013 05:54 GMT
#119
No Elise nerfs Can still abuse her while she's awesome.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 16 2013 05:55 GMT
#120
On January 16 2013 14:54 Anxiety wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 14:52 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 16 2013 14:49 Anxiety wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/new-league-system-coming-soon-ranked

They basically are changing the ladder system to the Sc2 System, hidden MMR/Elo and all, but with no tier loss. I am personally not a fan of the changes, seems to produce the result of "How fucking far am I from X now" that I had in Sc2.

You are not alone, almost everyone here hates it, a lot of it was discussed in the last GD thread that's locked now.


My bad, I never checked the previous GD since I literally just saw it, and checking the time of the post release was overridden by dislike for the system.

No worries, just letting you know in case you wanted to check it out and see the commiseration of almost everyone else lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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