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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28094 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 09:32:34
January 15 2013 08:35 GMT
#8581
On January 15 2013 06:58 MoonBear wrote:
Ty everyone~

Only admins get custom icons, so just the regular hammer for me~

Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 06:51 Seuss wrote:
On January 15 2013 06:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 15 2013 06:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 15 2013 06:06 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 15 2013 06:03 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 15 2013 05:57 MoonBear wrote:
On January 15 2013 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to seem like an odd question (and I may have asked it before), but is anyone here real good with Reddit?
I want to try to promote our casting of the EA v Curse game tonight (and there was a -barely-front-page post regarding all AHGL matches yesterday) but since ours never happened and LCS Quals were still going on I doubt there was much exposure.

I'm personally not a huge fan of posting on Reddit (not to mention every time I try it gets removed or something) but it appears to be the best way to get your name out there; I'm sure Shake can testify to that.

Possible thoughts/assistance would be appreciated.

What's the link. Happy to tweet something for you.

Whoa? when did you get hammer? Gratz on getting hammer too.

Does your alter ego have it as well?


Chiharu passed away earlier this morning. Moon and I had a private funeral for her.

Jesus, Neo, I read "passed away" and nearly had a heart attack.
Not cool bro.

Grats MB on banling status!!

As for Reddit, I'll try to get a post up later tonight (I'm still hesitant to put it up myself because I'm so sure some mod will remove it for reasons I don't understand) and we can get the TL brigade into upvoteviewing mode I suppose.


lol wat. I didn't mean to scare. But I figure all our veterans know about Moon/Chiharu connections.

Moon has been upgraded to Banling, so no more dual accounting for him.


Dual? I was certain that half the accounts in this sub-forum were his, and most discussions were just an elaborate ruse.

Oh no, Monte's on to me! Quick, better find a way to casually ban him without drawing suspicion...

Congrats MoonBear

p.s: Custom icons are given to blue named staff(guys who contribute a lot over many years), and red-named staff(senior staff that can also moderate like a banling). Administrators can choose to keep their custom icon or go with the special administrator thing. Most of the admins have adapted to the special admin blue bar, either with the TLNET symbol, or in the case of some, the blue bar and their custom icon. Wax still has a custom/red name and no blue bar though.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
January 15 2013 09:02 GMT
#8582
As usual, Yango is right =P

I know not everyone follow the Asian scene super intimately, but a recent trend in OGN/other Korean tournaments (besides Sunfire/Warmogs on everyone) is exactly what Yango is describing - a shift in how we think about what a "carry" is. People are more willingly to buy purely defensive stats on carries beyond the occasional GA and QSS. It's apparently when you see stuff like Khazix mid buildilng a Warmogs, but there's no reason why the same principles can't be applied to a more traditional carry.

If you want a S2 example, Orianna had an amazing showing by TPA, and the go-to build was Grail-Hat-GA. Or the Grail-Veil Anivia build. There is no reason why, when the situation calls for it, a defensive item is blasphemy on a carry. If you build full damage and can't tank anything and are always running away, you might as well have not built any damage items since your DPS output isn't improved.
TranslatorBaa!
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
January 15 2013 09:20 GMT
#8583
On January 15 2013 17:29 TheYango wrote:
I mean in general people have too much an aversion toward buying primary defensive items on APs and ADs. On ADs its more justified (and even then, we're seeing more primary defensive items like Warmogs on ADs), but not so much on APs. Especially when as an AP you're often buying like 2-3 half-defensive/half-offensive items (Zhonya, Abyssal, Liandry's, etc.), when 1-2 primary defensive items + 1-2 primary offensive items has the potential to have higher overall cost-effectiveness (particularly when those defensive items are Locket or Warmogs).


The thing about analyzing AP items on a cost effectiveness scale is that they AP items tend to give utility because straight AP+ stat is "boring", and stuff like zhonya's(worth more than any other defensive item in a lot of cases where other team is diving you) or seraph's in a tear+roa build(400+HP shield) gives them freedom to build a lot more damage simply because the itemization makes you tanky "enough" while letting you deal vastly more damage than if you spend item slots on a purely defensive item.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 09:31:48
January 15 2013 09:28 GMT
#8584
That argument no holds weight in the face of absurdly cost-efficient defensive utility items like Locket, Bulwark, and Mikael's. Against more selfish defensive items like Mog's or Sunfire, sure.

It's not "vastly" more damage because having a full-defensive item allows you to dedicate a slot to a full-offensive item like DCap or DFG that you would otherwise not be able to use practically. 1 full offensive vs. 1 full defensive item vs. 2 half-offense/half-defense items--it's not a given that the 2 half-offensive/defensive items are better.
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dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
January 15 2013 09:31 GMT
#8585
https://www.facebook.com/LoLbigfatlp/posts/507862152570471

Jiji benched, Link is now a starter
Go go Alliance.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
January 15 2013 09:32 GMT
#8586
Yay for MoonBear!!! LoL <3
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 15 2013 09:33 GMT
#8587
On January 15 2013 18:31 dooraven wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/LoLbigfatlp/posts/507862152570471

Jiji benched, Link is now a starter


lol this came faster than I thought, sad for jiji but YAY LINK
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
January 15 2013 09:33 GMT
#8588
On January 15 2013 18:31 dooraven wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/LoLbigfatlp/posts/507862152570471

Jiji benched, Link is now a starter

Ooops, we will see how that go. I still don't think Link is better than Jiji, but Jiji may need so break so he can comeback stronger. Roster rotate may not be a bad thing.
Terran
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 15 2013 09:39 GMT
#8589
On January 15 2013 18:31 dooraven wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/LoLbigfatlp/posts/507862152570471

Jiji benched, Link is now a starter


Kinda sucks. jiji still my favorite player. Hopefully he'll stream more now and as a coach I think he'll do a pretty great job considering his personality and general chill behavior.

So long as Aphromoo learns support CLG with LiNk should be capable of at least challenging high tier EU teams.
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
January 15 2013 09:43 GMT
#8590
Is Shaco's teamfighting really that bad?

I know people like to idle by and clean up cause otherwise he just blows up, but I hang around my ADC to drop boxes under him and permaslow anyone that dives him. If they turn on me, my ADC gets free dps time and I'm slippery as hell anyways.

Feels way more useful than trying to assassinate things or waiting to snipe anyone who gets low.

+ Show Spoiler +
But I still split push a ton though lol
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
January 15 2013 09:45 GMT
#8591
On January 15 2013 18:31 dooraven wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/LoLbigfatlp/posts/507862152570471

Jiji benched, Link is now a starter


Uhh could someone summarize that for me? I don´t understand anything he wrote.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 10:02:07
January 15 2013 09:54 GMT
#8592
On January 15 2013 18:45 Hakanfrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 18:31 dooraven wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/LoLbigfatlp/posts/507862152570471

Jiji benched, Link is now a starter


Uhh could someone summarize that for me? I don´t understand anything he wrote.

Nagas means niggers.
You're welcome.

Lol there is a traduction on reddit:
[–]manisier 14 points 7 minutes de ça*
Yep.
Hello people, figured I'd post this here and educate everyone and fans of CLG and myself, so its nice and clear and there's no confusion or weird theories that some niggas may randomly dream of. This shit is pretty long, I think. I wouldn't read all of it if I saw a wall of text this big myself.
The news: I am now a sub for CLG!
For a long itme coming I have always felt the discomfort when playing team games, especially tournament games (even in the games in which I do really well and carry I still don't feel the 'right flow').
There are definitely a lot of shit talkers out there trying to piss pro players off all the time, but they are usually not the people that can get to someone like me (just makes me annoyed, that's all, most of the time). Most of these unwanted feelings I feel really stems from long terms of decreasing faith in me from my teammates, which has been snowballing increasingly.
And not for just the past month or two, but for a while now. This 'snowballing decreasing faith' shit, as I call it, is a common enemy of HotshotGG as well! This was often the main reason that there was a lot of arguing and raging both recently and in the past. But, I actually feel it's not too bad to actually get it out of your system - like Hotshot cries about it for hours at times and often brings it back up at different times again too. For I have just tried to focus on my own game for a long time ignoring what they say, but when I go in scrims I still end up focusing pretty hard on what people think rather then playing the game and making my own plays and coordinating with my team.
It's not really their fault, though, it's just how the jiji brain functions, probably. They're human and it's just how humans respond to things, and it just kind of snowballed ever since a long time ago I guess! For the longest time I have felt it is pretty damn hard to improve. Ever since I played DotA back in the day my confidence level has been fucking God almighty high, twice as high as Doublelift's, easily. This has been true for a long time, stretching all the way back to season 1. Confidence, faith and trust really is something for a player like myself, too bad I lost most of it and started playing halfassedly, stuck with the same problems for a long time.
This shit is getting really long. Bottom line, even if they didn't decide to give the starter position to L1nk, I feel like I would have wanted to let him have it for the above reasons and general discomfort (I don't think he's much better than me, though, I am still very confident).
So, fans of jiji, I will be more relaxed from now, streaming, training myself, and in entertainment mode, expect more streams and more kitties and more talking to you niggas.
P.S. I have also been asked to be the coach for CLG and move in (yes, if I had been a starter for season 3 I would have moved in). I think I can really help them get into shape and stop their slacking so hard. However I at the moment I feel like it's too hard and annoying to command these silly, wild, crazy niggas to do their tasks properly. Maybe at a later date.
P.P.S Donations are welcome from now on! I will not have any real salary as a sub and I will rely on streaming (on own3d, deal with it) for awhile to feed my kitties while I relax and turn on entertainment/training mode! I have no idea how to post a button on Facebook and own3d, it's too hard. https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=7L73AHVXD8D86 How does HTML work?
I will never forget the 5th of October, 2011 during the IEM Guangzhou grand final. I died to a Gangplank gank against Misaya on Annie, then got ganked few more times then Annie snowballed into oblivion.
tl;dr: I'm off to own solo queue noobs and maybe make a ranked 5s team for with solo queuers and scrim LCS teams for fun.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
January 15 2013 10:03 GMT
#8593
As a CLG fan I've thrilled with this decision. Jiji hasn't been playing well for too long now, it was the right move.
Best Teemo World
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 10:10:11
January 15 2013 10:08 GMT
#8594
And "peepzorz" ? lol

I have seen many jokes about jiji's writing but hadn't seen how he really writes, that's quite impressive.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
January 15 2013 10:11 GMT
#8595
twitch.tv/eslasia is now online with SWL: MVP White vs. Royal club and PE.i-Rocks vs. LGD
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
January 15 2013 10:14 GMT
#8596
z.z. almost everyone is just saying "jiji is a better player than link"
as if that's really relevant -_-

if you read what he wrote at all, he's stepping down because of how he feels MENTALLY, Because he's feeling a lot of lack of faith from his team and has lost confidence, NOT because l1nk is a better player, not because jiji is bad, etc.

would you rather have jiji who has no confidence + doesnt have team support, or would you rather see l1nk who's a lot more confident and receives more teamwork?

I just think it's really really insulting to l1nk to just say "jiji is better" or something similar
yes, many of us are sad to see jiji go, but l1nk is not a bad player, and i think he deserves a little more respect than what he's getting right now
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
January 15 2013 10:19 GMT
#8597
Xenics Storm vs. CJ Entus started on nicegame.tv
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
January 15 2013 10:20 GMT
#8598
Glad they're making the change tbh, Jiji needs a change somewhere.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 15 2013 10:21 GMT
#8599
I like Chiharu more then Moonbear.
WriterXiao8~~
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 10:25:51
January 15 2013 10:25 GMT
#8600
On January 15 2013 18:28 TheYango wrote:
That argument no holds weight in the face of absurdly cost-efficient defensive utility items like Locket, Bulwark, and Mikael's. Against more selfish defensive items like Mog's or Sunfire, sure.

It's not "vastly" more damage because having a full-defensive item allows you to dedicate a slot to a full-offensive item like DCap or DFG that you would otherwise not be able to use practically. 1 full offensive vs. 1 full defensive item vs. 2 half-offense/half-defense items--it's not a given that the 2 half-offensive/defensive items are better.


First point is valid, although aside from mikael's they aren't good items to be getting on somebody who needs to be carrying the early-midgame tempo.

I think that depends on the items in question. RoA Seraph's builds are probably the biggest outlier in that they are incredibly cost-effective when fully charged, and the health+shield is approximately equal to a warmogs. However if you are playing a champion who benefits hugely from alternative builds then a faster defensive item isn't bad.

I am against the idea of mid's getting locket/bulwark not because they're bad items, but because those items are best when rushed, and you give away a lot of your ability to control the early-midgame through damage,
Porouscloud - NA LoL
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