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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 15 2012 03:32 GMT
#461
IMO urgot mid is kinda like Ryze mid, except not sexy like the peanut head.
Freeeeeeedom
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 15 2012 03:33 GMT
#462
On December 15 2012 10:43 Requizen wrote:
Hey guys, my mom's cancer scan came back clean!

Gifts to the first 3 people who PM me. Your pick.

I'm happy for you Req. Some good news is needed after today.

Cheers.
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
December 15 2012 03:37 GMT
#463
On December 15 2012 12:32 cLutZ wrote:
IMO urgot mid is kinda like Ryze mid, except not sexy like the peanut head.


And he falls off lategame hard with his dmg, complete opposite of Ryze.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 15 2012 03:40 GMT
#464
On December 15 2012 12:37 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:32 cLutZ wrote:
IMO urgot mid is kinda like Ryze mid, except not sexy like the peanut head.


And he falls off lategame hard with his dmg, complete opposite of Ryze.


In playstyle. Ur just being an analogy goalie.
Freeeeeeedom
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 15 2012 03:45 GMT
#465
Wow. Every Talon I've seen today has been stacking BCs and arguing that it's the best build for him, because "my W gives 4 stacks to the enemy team and my ADC does more damage" (yeah, ignore that our AD was getting dove by Irelia you lost against and Jax, and that you'd be far more useful by 100-0ing their AD) and stuff like that.

Looks like the BC stack has been deeply rooted into people for now. I wonder how long it'll take them to get out of that habit. People've always been slow to this, so I guess it'll be an experiment on stuff trickling from higher to lower levels.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 15 2012 03:46 GMT
#466
On December 15 2012 12:40 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:37 Zooper31 wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:32 cLutZ wrote:
IMO urgot mid is kinda like Ryze mid, except not sexy like the peanut head.


And he falls off lategame hard with his dmg, complete opposite of Ryze.


In playstyle. Ur just being an analogy goalie.

lol, I don't think he was trying to be mean. Urgot's stronk early, weak late. Ryze's weak early, a god late.
I don't see the similarity, even in damage type.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 15 2012 03:57 GMT
#467
On December 15 2012 12:18 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 11:57 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:07 Badboyrune wrote:
On December 15 2012 11:04 Alaric wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:52 Mondeezy wrote:
Glad to hear that Req!

Anyone just get another patch? Game popped, didn't load, and now I'm stuck DLing something for 400 MB. Dahell :S

It's worth the wait.

On December 15 2012 11:04 Badboyrune wrote:
As the inevitable tide of mid Urgot approaches fast I'm happier than ever that I don't play mid.

What do you mean?


Nyjacky played urgot mid twice in a row now in tsm invitational. And urgot with blue is too stupid for people not to catch on to it.

Everyone here knew about urgot mid way back before urgot got turned into fotm in s2. It's always been stupid strong; it still suffers from a huge amount of issues as bruiser mids, (such as too much ad damage on team; scales poorly into late game; can't push wave back (depends on bruiser)), along with some additional costs, can't roam, without getting caught, can't constantly put pressure mid, due to lack of escape, etc etc.


With muramana and Black cleaver being in the game I'm not so sure about the not scaling argument. Last time I tried him with muramana it did roughly 100 extra magic damage per Q shot. The damage bonus is roughly equivalent to having a BT, while still having manamune. Squishies literally die in 4 rockets, and you do appreciable damage even to tanks..

I don't think urgot's Q applies muramana. It applies urgot's passive but not on hit effects.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 04:00:50
December 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#468
Muramana applies on single target spells, not just on autoattacks.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 15 2012 04:01 GMT
#469
On December 15 2012 13:00 ChaoSbringer wrote:
Muramana applies on single target spells, not just on autoattacks.

Ah right. Forgot. Thanks.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 04:20:20
December 15 2012 04:05 GMT
#470
I hate the shop. Half the time it doesn't take your clicks into account, I've had items not purchased, screen lagging and purchased the item you had selected before the one you clicked on today. x_o

Also the delay. I had my champ automatically switch targets after my opponent flashed out of range, it's annoying to have him autowaste a SotD, TTS or another valuable auto. I don't even know why it happens, since the champ isn't supposed to switch targets just because the former one is out of range, he should just follow. Oo
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 04:10:23
December 15 2012 04:10 GMT
#471
What do you guys think of this Ezreal build?
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14146 Posts
December 15 2012 04:12 GMT
#472
no crit adc builds are really nice and seem cool but I don't see the lategame damage amplification that allows an adc to take over the game like they need to.
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AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 04:21:05
December 15 2012 04:18 GMT
#473
On December 15 2012 13:12 Sermokala wrote:
no crit adc builds are really nice and seem cool but I don't see the lategame damage amplification that allows an adc to take over the game like they need to.


You can always build crit if your early-mid game didn't go as strong as you like. This build isn't for 35+ min games. If your team isn't ahead by a lot 30 min in, you can go for crit. This build doesn't maximize damage. It maximizes utility and make Ezreal's poke and mobility even stronger than it already is. I think it's great for if your team doesn't have a strong front line. You'll need the poke and extra escaping power.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 15 2012 04:22 GMT
#474
I think ADC with no crit does about the same amount of damage (if not less) than a bruiser.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 15 2012 04:23 GMT
#475
On December 15 2012 13:12 Sermokala wrote:
no crit adc builds are really nice and seem cool but I don't see the lategame damage amplification that allows an adc to take over the game like they need to.


He had 2 bloodthirsters. Thats kinda lategame.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 15 2012 04:23 GMT
#476
i've only seen gauntlet ez a few times but it's seemed really strong to me
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
icemanzdoinwork
Profile Joined August 2010
447 Posts
December 15 2012 04:25 GMT
#477
Didn't even see the cho nerfs. Really hurts his weak early game.

So who are the bans now in solo Q? Personally, I'm going kat, eve, and blitz. Then probably lee, malph, and toss up. Going to keep abusing nunu/Cait until they nerf that.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 04:27:15
December 15 2012 04:27 GMT
#478
Some people tend to ban Nunu because of his good jungling, also Shen, Elise. They're still banning Diana despite the nerfs.
And Darius because he's always dumb.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 04:32:45
December 15 2012 04:31 GMT
#479
On December 15 2012 13:23 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 13:12 Sermokala wrote:
no crit adc builds are really nice and seem cool but I don't see the lategame damage amplification that allows an adc to take over the game like they need to.


He had 2 bloodthirsters. Thats kinda lategame.


Well if I wanted more damage I definitely would've gone ie. But the logic behind double bt was that if I eat a lux laser that chunks 3/4 of my health, I'd just sit back, fire some Qs for health and poke, and then go back in to kill people. I probably didnt need it that game anyway. The only time I was even close to being touched that game was when blitz pulled Garen into me and when I got hit by a Lux bind.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
icemanzdoinwork
Profile Joined August 2010
447 Posts
December 15 2012 04:36 GMT
#480
On December 15 2012 13:27 Alaric wrote:
Some people tend to ban Nunu because of his good jungling, also Shen, Elise. They're still banning Diana despite the nerfs.
And Darius because he's always dumb.


Forgot about Elise, but I've yet to see nunu banned this season. I haven't seen a good shen this season and his jungling was hit hard.
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