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On December 15 2012 15:05 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 14:54 Kavas wrote: TSM played like garbage the entire series. Dyrus and Chaos no boots 15 minutes in like really?? I've heard/seen it happening every now and then with the MS change. It's silly. If your opponent has boots and you don't, you can never chase or run away or even position properly.
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boots 1 overrated only 25 ms since patch
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On December 15 2012 15:22 eagle wrote: boots 1 overrated only 25 ms since patch
reverse noob trap though, still need them t2 boots.
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no, boots are the noob trap you don't need to kill your opponent to win lane if you win every trade, you'll force them out of lane (or make them die via jungler gank) spend your money on real stats, forego boots1 til like 20 minutes and don't even buy boots2 or boots3 win every game thank me later
that's how it goes
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On December 15 2012 15:35 gtrsrs wrote: no, boots are the noob trap you don't need to kill your opponent to win lane if you win every trade, you'll force them out of lane (or make them die via jungler gank) spend your money on real stats, forego boots1 til like 20 minutes and don't even buy boots2 or boots3 win every game thank me later
that's how it goes This
Just go flask/5pot/ward and laugh at the boots3. You'll out sustain their harass/trades and force them back before they do you. Haven't tried it on adc.
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And then twitches power curve kicks in, and wins game for curse. lol.
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im not saying open boots3, i find it horrible unless ur abusing AA range a la cait.
im saying u DO wanna have t2 boots 15 mins into the game.
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On December 15 2012 15:50 xMiragex wrote: ?
im not saying open boots3, i find it horrible unless ur abusing AA range a la cait.
im saying u DO wanna have t2 boots 15 mins into the game.
Situational. I like them on the adc, but on everyone else meh. I also, start long sword 2 pot on Cait. First back scepter and boots2.
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MS is an extremely good stat up to the second soft-cap, and is very often under-valued.
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Been playing some urgot mid just to try. Pretty damn strong, it's somewhat difficult to get solo kills(nidalee&eve @_@) unless the other guy misplays, but you bully the crap out of the other guy. If you open flask pendant 2 pots of your choice the other guy is going to run out of pots in a hurry. I suspect it would be essentially free kills though if I had a jungler that wasn't fizz.
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On December 15 2012 15:35 gtrsrs wrote: no, boots are the noob trap you don't need to kill your opponent to win lane if you win every trade, you'll force them out of lane (or make them die via jungler gank) spend your money on real stats, forego boots1 til like 20 minutes and don't even buy boots2 or boots3 win every game thank me later
that's how it goes No,do yourself a favor and don't do this.This might work now but I guarantee you people are gonna figure out that you can start cloth5 or even boots3 still on some junglers,go back buy a tabi and gank your no boots ass extremely quickly. People are taking this boots nerf to extreme levels right now and it's going to come around and bite them. There are exceptions of course but I'm telling you right now people are going to start exploiting this no boots madness really fast.
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Ran at perma-496 MS by spamming bear stance as Udyr with +60 MS boots, a bit of CDR and MS quints. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Thing about boots is that if the enemy has boots and you don't, you're going to be at a disadvantage whenever you get ganked/are ganking/teamfighting. The boots nerf plus the jungle being harder means that you can forgo boot starts in most cases, but mobility is still a very important thing to have at some point in the game. You absolutely cannot underestimate and under-value mobility.
unrelated note, did they fix teh butcher mastery w/ this patch?
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When people go boots or flask I laugh
Top nunu lets you get away with a dring start. It's such a huge advantage, especially if you're purple team
^and butcher is fixed
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On December 15 2012 16:24 Ryuu314 wrote: Thing about boots is that if the enemy has boots and you don't, you're going to be at a disadvantage whenever you get ganked/are ganking/teamfighting. The boots nerf plus the jungle being harder means that you can forgo boot starts in most cases, but mobility is still a very important thing to have at some point in the game. You absolutely cannot underestimate and under-value mobility.
unrelated note, did they fix teh butcher mastery w/ this patch?
If your mid you dont go boots, atm theres too much harass available to not go flask ward and pots. If you go boots mid you better been some sort of champ that can afford to sustain very hard in lane or is for sure going to get a kill before you chug through your only 3 pots vs someone who has at least 6.
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On December 15 2012 17:15 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 16:24 Ryuu314 wrote: Thing about boots is that if the enemy has boots and you don't, you're going to be at a disadvantage whenever you get ganked/are ganking/teamfighting. The boots nerf plus the jungle being harder means that you can forgo boot starts in most cases, but mobility is still a very important thing to have at some point in the game. You absolutely cannot underestimate and under-value mobility.
unrelated note, did they fix teh butcher mastery w/ this patch? If your mid you dont go boots, atm theres too much harass available to not go flask ward and pots. If you go boots mid you better been some sort of champ that can afford to sustain very hard in lane or is for sure going to get a kill before you chug through your only 3 pots vs someone who has at least 6. I'm not saying start with boots. I'm just saying it's stupid to put off getting any boots at all 'til like 20 min and even forgo-ing t2~3 boots for longer like gtsrs was suggesting.
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Yay santa baron
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How do you guys get santa baron when it says its for the end of the season
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On December 15 2012 17:42 Sufficiency wrote:Yay santa baron  Oh snap me too. Apparently I'm good-mannered. who knew?
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I got it too, but I also lost my red ribbon :x
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