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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 07 2012 00:48 GMT
#1521
On December 07 2012 09:45 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:41 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:37 PrinceXizor wrote:
Dude how can anyone play top lane, you are entirely at the mercy of your jungler. so boring. why are the solo lanes in LoL so tiresome to play Mid is boring as hell and so is top -.-

Wrong thread.

I've been thinking of running Sion with Ravenous Hydra for the AoE lifesteal.

i wanted an answer not a scolding and someone telling me "get better" because that doesn't change the nature of the lane any. :/ i don't understand how those lanes are fun. that is why i brought it here. It's not a QQ but a question. What makes those lanes fun?

Get good enough that you trash your opponent before you attract the jungler's attention, or even enough that he never feels too needed there. Oh, and buy a sightstone when you can, so you won't get ganked anyway.

no where near what i asked.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 00:51:04
December 07 2012 00:49 GMT
#1522
On December 07 2012 09:43 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:42 JBright wrote:
It is the academy though so they're hoping to help develop them into a real pro team.

It might be an academy, but who's going to teach them? What resources to they even have for reference material?

I guess they would need a partnership with a pro team since they don't have one of their own yet. Maybe they can work with the MVP teams since the two orgs are familiar with each other.
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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 07 2012 00:49 GMT
#1523
On December 07 2012 09:43 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:42 JBright wrote:
It is the academy though so they're hoping to help develop them into a real pro team.

It might be an academy, but who's going to teach them? What resources to they even have for reference material?

Professor HSGG. Splitpushing 101. Advanced Splitpushing 201. Splitpushing Internship with CLG.NA.
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
December 07 2012 00:50 GMT
#1524
On December 07 2012 09:46 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:44 Kouda wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:43 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:42 JBright wrote:
It is the academy though so they're hoping to help develop them into a real pro team.

It might be an academy, but who's going to teach them? What resources to they even have for reference material?


w/e. their sc2 academy was successful, so i'm not too worried.

Who came out of their SC2 Academy?

SC2 has much more material to work with, the theory is understood, and I feel like a coach can be more successful because you already have frameworks for what you want to be achieving, theory you want to teach, replays to utilise, etc. I'm not sure it's as possible in LoL.


gosuuser and sasquatch. Which are the "better NA" players, not that it means much, but it's still fostering NA talent.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 07 2012 00:51 GMT
#1525
On December 07 2012 09:48 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:45 Alaric wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:41 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:37 PrinceXizor wrote:
Dude how can anyone play top lane, you are entirely at the mercy of your jungler. so boring. why are the solo lanes in LoL so tiresome to play Mid is boring as hell and so is top -.-

Wrong thread.

I've been thinking of running Sion with Ravenous Hydra for the AoE lifesteal.

i wanted an answer not a scolding and someone telling me "get better" because that doesn't change the nature of the lane any. :/ i don't understand how those lanes are fun. that is why i brought it here. It's not a QQ but a question. What makes those lanes fun?

Get good enough that you trash your opponent before you attract the jungler's attention, or even enough that he never feels too needed there. Oh, and buy a sightstone when you can, so you won't get ganked anyway.

no where near what i asked.


honestly if a guy I had never heard of came in here and said that they might have gotten a real answer but you've made so many anti lol and generally trolly comments that I can't see how anyone wouldn't just take it as an lol rip

that said if you hate mid/top just ask for other shit, they are the most popular by far I doubt you'd be "forced" to play mid/top in more than 5% of your games.
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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
December 07 2012 00:52 GMT
#1526
On December 07 2012 09:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:41 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:37 PrinceXizor wrote:
Dude how can anyone play top lane, you are entirely at the mercy of your jungler. so boring. why are the solo lanes in LoL so tiresome to play Mid is boring as hell and so is top -.-

Wrong thread.

I've been thinking of running Sion with Ravenous Hydra for the AoE lifesteal.

i wanted an answer not a scolding and someone telling me "get better" because that doesn't change the nature of the lane any. :/ i don't understand how those lanes are fun. that is why i brought it here. It's not a QQ but a question. What makes those lanes fun? I see people call top and mid more than anything, but when i get put in the roles i feel like my time is being wasted. support waaay more fun.


Matchups. The feeling of being able to crush your opponent 1v1, and if good enough, being able to 1v2 the opponent and the jungle. It's not for everyone, but I enjoy it because of the matchup variety and all of the different champs I can play there.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 07 2012 00:53 GMT
#1527
On December 07 2012 09:51 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:48 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:45 Alaric wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:41 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:37 PrinceXizor wrote:
Dude how can anyone play top lane, you are entirely at the mercy of your jungler. so boring. why are the solo lanes in LoL so tiresome to play Mid is boring as hell and so is top -.-

Wrong thread.

I've been thinking of running Sion with Ravenous Hydra for the AoE lifesteal.

i wanted an answer not a scolding and someone telling me "get better" because that doesn't change the nature of the lane any. :/ i don't understand how those lanes are fun. that is why i brought it here. It's not a QQ but a question. What makes those lanes fun?

Get good enough that you trash your opponent before you attract the jungler's attention, or even enough that he never feels too needed there. Oh, and buy a sightstone when you can, so you won't get ganked anyway.

no where near what i asked.


honestly if a guy I had never heard of came in here and said that they might have gotten a real answer but you've made so many anti lol and generally trolly comments that I can't see how anyone wouldn't just take it as an lol rip

that said if you hate mid/top just ask for other shit, they are the most popular by far I doubt you'd be "forced" to play mid/top in more than 5% of your games.

:/ i don't get forced into it often. i just don't get the appeal and i wanted to ask the mid/top players why they like it.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 07 2012 00:53 GMT
#1528
I like mid because it's the easiest lane to convert your own lead into leads for the other lanes

dunno if that helps.
Carrilord has arrived.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 07 2012 00:54 GMT
#1529
On December 07 2012 09:52 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:41 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:37 PrinceXizor wrote:
Dude how can anyone play top lane, you are entirely at the mercy of your jungler. so boring. why are the solo lanes in LoL so tiresome to play Mid is boring as hell and so is top -.-

Wrong thread.

I've been thinking of running Sion with Ravenous Hydra for the AoE lifesteal.

i wanted an answer not a scolding and someone telling me "get better" because that doesn't change the nature of the lane any. :/ i don't understand how those lanes are fun. that is why i brought it here. It's not a QQ but a question. What makes those lanes fun? I see people call top and mid more than anything, but when i get put in the roles i feel like my time is being wasted. support waaay more fun.


Matchups. The feeling of being able to crush your opponent 1v1, and if good enough, being able to 1v2 the opponent and the jungle. It's not for everyone, but I enjoy it because of the matchup variety and all of the different champs I can play there.

Well if you get camped top by jungle it's a pretty shitty and boring game for you even if you play well and don't die, and even if the rest of your team wins. Mid shouldn't be a problem though. You have way more options than simply staying in lane, such as farming jungle or roaming.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 07 2012 00:55 GMT
#1530
Can't play manly shit and tower dive people all day, with wards only useful to tell you "the jungler's there, get your adrenaline rush" rather than "no, no, don't play aggro now" when you're bot lane. Well, you can when you play Leona I guess.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 00:57:56
December 07 2012 00:57 GMT
#1531
On December 07 2012 09:49 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:43 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:42 JBright wrote:
It is the academy though so they're hoping to help develop them into a real pro team.

It might be an academy, but who's going to teach them? What resources to they even have for reference material?

I guess they would need a partnership with a pro team since they don't have one of their own yet. Maybe they can work with the MVP teams since the two orgs are familiar with each other.

That... would be quite interesting! Hm.

On December 07 2012 09:50 Kouda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:46 MoonBear wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:44 Kouda wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:43 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:42 JBright wrote:
It is the academy though so they're hoping to help develop them into a real pro team.

It might be an academy, but who's going to teach them? What resources to they even have for reference material?


w/e. their sc2 academy was successful, so i'm not too worried.

Who came out of their SC2 Academy?

SC2 has much more material to work with, the theory is understood, and I feel like a coach can be more successful because you already have frameworks for what you want to be achieving, theory you want to teach, replays to utilise, etc. I'm not sure it's as possible in LoL.


gosuuser and sasquatch. Which are the "better NA" players, not that it means much, but it's still fostering NA talent.

Hm. I've not heard of them but I don't follow SC2 much any more.

I applaud fostering talent, I just wonder how effective it will be given how under developed LoL is, analytics-wise. The closest we have to things like the Liquipedia Strategy section or the TLFE is what we've done here in our TL articles. Unless I guess coL is ok with their LoL team doing nothing but Double AP-Skarner, low economy and Triple Teleport Promote. That would be kinda cool actually lol.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 07 2012 00:58 GMT
#1532
lol from the youtube comments on loco's interview:

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willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
December 07 2012 00:59 GMT
#1533
On December 07 2012 09:48 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:45 Alaric wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:41 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:37 PrinceXizor wrote:
Dude how can anyone play top lane, you are entirely at the mercy of your jungler. so boring. why are the solo lanes in LoL so tiresome to play Mid is boring as hell and so is top -.-

Wrong thread.

I've been thinking of running Sion with Ravenous Hydra for the AoE lifesteal.

i wanted an answer not a scolding and someone telling me "get better" because that doesn't change the nature of the lane any. :/ i don't understand how those lanes are fun. that is why i brought it here. It's not a QQ but a question. What makes those lanes fun?

Get good enough that you trash your opponent before you attract the jungler's attention, or even enough that he never feels too needed there. Oh, and buy a sightstone when you can, so you won't get ganked anyway.

no where near what i asked.


You do understand you asked a rhetorical question right?
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 07 2012 01:01 GMT
#1534
On December 07 2012 09:59 willoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:48 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:45 Alaric wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:41 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:37 PrinceXizor wrote:
Dude how can anyone play top lane, you are entirely at the mercy of your jungler. so boring. why are the solo lanes in LoL so tiresome to play Mid is boring as hell and so is top -.-

Wrong thread.

I've been thinking of running Sion with Ravenous Hydra for the AoE lifesteal.

i wanted an answer not a scolding and someone telling me "get better" because that doesn't change the nature of the lane any. :/ i don't understand how those lanes are fun. that is why i brought it here. It's not a QQ but a question. What makes those lanes fun?

Get good enough that you trash your opponent before you attract the jungler's attention, or even enough that he never feels too needed there. Oh, and buy a sightstone when you can, so you won't get ganked anyway.

no where near what i asked.


You do understand you asked a rhetorical question right?

it's only rhetorical if i mean it as one. i was asking how someone can find it fun and i wanted responses. Telling someone they said a rhetorical question is like telling someone they were sarcastic. it's the intent that matters. and yeah intent sucks via text.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 07 2012 01:03 GMT
#1535
On December 07 2012 10:01 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:59 willoc wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:48 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:45 Alaric wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:41 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:37 PrinceXizor wrote:
Dude how can anyone play top lane, you are entirely at the mercy of your jungler. so boring. why are the solo lanes in LoL so tiresome to play Mid is boring as hell and so is top -.-

Wrong thread.

I've been thinking of running Sion with Ravenous Hydra for the AoE lifesteal.

i wanted an answer not a scolding and someone telling me "get better" because that doesn't change the nature of the lane any. :/ i don't understand how those lanes are fun. that is why i brought it here. It's not a QQ but a question. What makes those lanes fun?

Get good enough that you trash your opponent before you attract the jungler's attention, or even enough that he never feels too needed there. Oh, and buy a sightstone when you can, so you won't get ganked anyway.

no where near what i asked.


You do understand you asked a rhetorical question right?

it's only rhetorical if i mean it as one. i was asking how someone can find it fun and i wanted responses. Telling someone they said a rhetorical question is like telling someone they were sarcastic. it's the intent that matters. and yeah intent sucks via text.


"Fun" is a subjective term. If you don't like those lanes, don't fucking play them.

Stop.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 07 2012 01:05 GMT
#1536
On December 07 2012 09:57 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:49 JBright wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:43 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:42 JBright wrote:
It is the academy though so they're hoping to help develop them into a real pro team.

It might be an academy, but who's going to teach them? What resources to they even have for reference material?

I guess they would need a partnership with a pro team since they don't have one of their own yet. Maybe they can work with the MVP teams since the two orgs are familiar with each other.

That... would be quite interesting! Hm.

Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 09:50 Kouda wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:46 MoonBear wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:44 Kouda wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:43 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On December 07 2012 09:42 JBright wrote:
It is the academy though so they're hoping to help develop them into a real pro team.

It might be an academy, but who's going to teach them? What resources to they even have for reference material?


w/e. their sc2 academy was successful, so i'm not too worried.

Who came out of their SC2 Academy?

SC2 has much more material to work with, the theory is understood, and I feel like a coach can be more successful because you already have frameworks for what you want to be achieving, theory you want to teach, replays to utilise, etc. I'm not sure it's as possible in LoL.


gosuuser and sasquatch. Which are the "better NA" players, not that it means much, but it's still fostering NA talent.

Hm. I've not heard of them but I don't follow SC2 much any more.

I applaud fostering talent, I just wonder how effective it will be given how under developed LoL is, analytics-wise. The closest we have to things like the Liquipedia Strategy section or the TLFE is what we've done here in our TL articles. Unless I guess coL is ok with their LoL team doing nothing but Double AP-Skarner, low economy and Triple Teleport Promote. That would be kinda cool actually lol.

I would also assume that pro teams might be willing to scrim them if they have a sponsor rather than just some random no name team. From what I've read, you can analysis a lot in SC without actully playing, in LoL you kinda just gotta jump in and see what works. But having access to scrim good teams would be helpful.
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 01:11:24
December 07 2012 01:07 GMT
#1537
Dig vs TD getting ready to start soonish. http://www.twitch.tv/national_esl1 Followed up by CLG.na going up against I think Team Grackis/scy.

Dig using Rhux
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 01:13:21
December 07 2012 01:08 GMT
#1538
Whoa, loco hanging out at CRS house?

And that hot_bid interview way too good
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 07 2012 01:10 GMT
#1539
Just like to say again, Twin Shadows
So gud
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 07 2012 01:17 GMT
#1540
I can't wait to see what kind of plays Doublelift can pull off with the scimitar item.
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