The item gives less damage per attack but it only drops off after 20 or so attacks.
I honestly do think the item is a bit broken in its current iteration.
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
The item gives less damage per attack but it only drops off after 20 or so attacks. I honestly do think the item is a bit broken in its current iteration. | ||
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Koenig99
Canada904 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On December 05 2012 11:42 NeoIllusions wrote: Chobra looks a lot like Wax. o.o But is he grumpy and does hates everyone and everything all the time? | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On December 05 2012 11:50 MoonBear wrote: But is he grumpy and does hates everyone and everything all the time? l0l Chobra is bubbly from what I've seen. A pretty happy dude. Wax is nice IRL, just crazy jaded online. | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On December 05 2012 11:52 NeoIllusions wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2012 11:50 MoonBear wrote: On December 05 2012 11:42 NeoIllusions wrote: Chobra looks a lot like Wax. o.o But is he grumpy and does hates everyone and everything all the time? l0l Chobra is bubbly from what I've seen. A pretty happy dude. Wax is nice IRL, just crazy jaded online. Yah, I just like making fun of da big boss. ^^; Is it just me or MLG Stream not working? | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On December 05 2012 11:34 billy5000 wrote: TheYango, are you saying that I should just skip philo altogether or get it later in the game? I do feel like gp/s items are unnecessary from this one game in which I just rushed sightstone and aegis as leona. You have the opportunity to start the lane with the two pieces of the philo, 3 wards a biscuit and an hp pot. Which enables you to buy the philo on your first back to get the gp10 rolling. Kages is now actually useful for a support as well. I don't think we will see the rush sighstone being the way. | ||
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ketchup
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 05 2012 11:58 Irave wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2012 11:34 billy5000 wrote: TheYango, are you saying that I should just skip philo altogether or get it later in the game? I do feel like gp/s items are unnecessary from this one game in which I just rushed sightstone and aegis as leona. You have the opportunity to start the lane with the two pieces of the philo, 3 wards a biscuit and an hp pot. Which enables you to buy the philo on your first back to get the gp10 rolling. Kages is now actually useful for a support as well. I don't think we will see the rush sighstone being the way. What's the point of rushing Philo when Sightstone's ward usage is effectively worth 2 gp10 items? Bottle+Sightstone is more effective gp10 than actual gp10 items, lol. | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
On December 05 2012 11:37 VayneAuthority wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2012 11:24 petered wrote: Anybody hating on the new shop is crazy. So much better now. You can get to any category instantly rather than having to click through menus. man i hope your joking. it took me 10 minutes just to find out how to buy a doran blade. There is really nothing the new shop does better than the old, a lot of needless complexity and terrible design. Not joking, you are just bad at looking. It is demonstrably better than the old in terms of how long it takes to get to any given item. The old shop bothered the crap out of me. The new interface is whatever. No opinion on that. Don't see the need to change it but whatever floats their boat. New masteries are blowing my mind. Really no clue what to get. Early game and laning doesn't seem all that different to me so far, but once mid game hits everything is just so different. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On December 05 2012 12:00 TheYango wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2012 11:58 Irave wrote: On December 05 2012 11:34 billy5000 wrote: TheYango, are you saying that I should just skip philo altogether or get it later in the game? I do feel like gp/s items are unnecessary from this one game in which I just rushed sightstone and aegis as leona. You have the opportunity to start the lane with the two pieces of the philo, 3 wards a biscuit and an hp pot. Which enables you to buy the philo on your first back to get the gp10 rolling. Kages is now actually useful for a support as well. I don't think we will see the rush sighstone being the way. What's the point of rushing Philo when Sightstone's ward usage is effectively worth 2 gp10 items? Bottle+Sightstone is more effective gp10 than actual gp10 items, lol. Because you get a core item up and running sooner. At the expense of having to buy 2-3 more wards out of pocket. With the philo regen a good portion of supports won't even need to invest in the flask. So with what you save on the flask you pay for in wards. Rushing sighstone saves you a minimal amount of gold. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
I don't like the new jungle at all :< | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 05 2012 12:11 Irave wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2012 12:00 TheYango wrote: On December 05 2012 11:58 Irave wrote: On December 05 2012 11:34 billy5000 wrote: TheYango, are you saying that I should just skip philo altogether or get it later in the game? I do feel like gp/s items are unnecessary from this one game in which I just rushed sightstone and aegis as leona. You have the opportunity to start the lane with the two pieces of the philo, 3 wards a biscuit and an hp pot. Which enables you to buy the philo on your first back to get the gp10 rolling. Kages is now actually useful for a support as well. I don't think we will see the rush sighstone being the way. What's the point of rushing Philo when Sightstone's ward usage is effectively worth 2 gp10 items? Bottle+Sightstone is more effective gp10 than actual gp10 items, lol. Because you get a core item up and running sooner. At the expense of having to buy 2-3 more wards out of pocket. With the philo regen a good portion of supports won't even need to invest in the flask. So with what you save on the flask you pay for in wards. Rushing sighstone saves you a minimal amount of gold. Wait, how do you "save" on a Flask when Flask costs 225 and Philo costs 700. It's Philo that's generating gold to catch up to Flask, not the other way round. If you don't want the immediate Sightstone that's fine. Just rush your core item off just the Flask, and get Sightstone later. But it's silly to suggest that Philo is "saving" you money compared to a Flask. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I'm tempted almost to just start with nothing but the biscuit and ghost ward and buy the sightstone as soon as possible. Or maybe start with a flask and nothing else. | ||
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
The UI is probably also the worst they've ever had, though pre-release could probably give it a run for its money. Store UI is exceptionally bad because it they made it so bland that there aren't any meaningful visual clues to make finding things go faster. I'm extraordinarily disappointed they never improved upon the UI given all the negative feedback it was given when it first came out. | ||
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scarper65
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
i can't justify the 600 damage shield over building a rod of ages or something instead | ||
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billy5000
United States865 Posts
On December 05 2012 12:15 Ketara wrote: Yeah I have no idea what to start on supports. I'm tempted almost to just start with nothing but the biscuit and ghost ward and buy the sightstone as soon as possible. Or maybe start with a flask and nothing else. I like the idea of flask+1pink+2greens along with biscuit and 1min ward masteries. The presence of having a pink ward forces the other support to save up his ward in lane bush, but you also don't want to use your pink just to ward the lane bush and give up its presence in your inventory. So in that case I'd just use the 1min ward instead, and I do feel like the 1min ward should be used for lanes only because the minion waves are dynamic. I'm still looking for criticisms for this idea though. | ||
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