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[Patch 1.0.0.152: Preseason 3] General Discussion - Page 28

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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 03:57:25
December 05 2012 02:44 GMT
#541
Man I forgot manamune had a 2 second internal cooldown on its mana generation. I tried rushing maramuna on Trist and had to give up on several midgame chases to do it. But I finished the item at 26 minutes. It's supposed to add 145 damage (does not scale with crits or abilities I think) when you use it as a full mana level 9 Teemo with just that for mana. I kept forgetting to toggle it on. The best way to know it's on is to listen to the sound and watch ur mana bar as you attack. It'd be the strongest first item for attack damage.

The item gives less damage per attack but it only drops off after 20 or so attacks.
I honestly do think the item is a bit broken in its current iteration.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
December 05 2012 02:48 GMT
#542
So what's the new Jax build looking like now? Iceborne Gauntlet a must or still rush Trinity Force?
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
December 05 2012 02:50 GMT
#543
On December 05 2012 11:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
Chobra looks a lot like Wax.

o.o

But is he grumpy and does hates everyone and everything all the time?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 05 2012 02:52 GMT
#544
On December 05 2012 11:50 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 11:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
Chobra looks a lot like Wax.

o.o

But is he grumpy and does hates everyone and everything all the time?


l0l

Chobra is bubbly from what I've seen. A pretty happy dude.
Wax is nice IRL, just crazy jaded online.
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upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
December 05 2012 02:53 GMT
#545
I'm having a lot of fun with these new item changes. I'm going to go ahead and give Riot a thumbs up on this one.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
December 05 2012 02:56 GMT
#546
On December 05 2012 11:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 11:50 MoonBear wrote:
On December 05 2012 11:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
Chobra looks a lot like Wax.

o.o

But is he grumpy and does hates everyone and everything all the time?


l0l

Chobra is bubbly from what I've seen. A pretty happy dude.
Wax is nice IRL, just crazy jaded online.

Yah, I just like making fun of da big boss. ^^;

Is it just me or MLG Stream not working?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
December 05 2012 02:58 GMT
#547
On December 05 2012 11:34 billy5000 wrote:
TheYango, are you saying that I should just skip philo altogether or get it later in the game? I do feel like gp/s items are unnecessary from this one game in which I just rushed sightstone and aegis as leona.

You have the opportunity to start the lane with the two pieces of the philo, 3 wards a biscuit and an hp pot. Which enables you to buy the philo on your first back to get the gp10 rolling. Kages is now actually useful for a support as well. I don't think we will see the rush sighstone being the way.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
December 05 2012 02:58 GMT
#548
So, for those people with dual monitors, it seems like they fixed that issue where screen would go into center of both screens when in windowed mode.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
December 05 2012 03:00 GMT
#549
Has anyone made an item cost efficiency analysis for the new stuff?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 05 2012 03:00 GMT
#550
On December 05 2012 11:58 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 11:34 billy5000 wrote:
TheYango, are you saying that I should just skip philo altogether or get it later in the game? I do feel like gp/s items are unnecessary from this one game in which I just rushed sightstone and aegis as leona.

You have the opportunity to start the lane with the two pieces of the philo, 3 wards a biscuit and an hp pot. Which enables you to buy the philo on your first back to get the gp10 rolling. Kages is now actually useful for a support as well. I don't think we will see the rush sighstone being the way.

What's the point of rushing Philo when Sightstone's ward usage is effectively worth 2 gp10 items?

Bottle+Sightstone is more effective gp10 than actual gp10 items, lol.
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petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
December 05 2012 03:01 GMT
#551
On December 05 2012 11:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On December 05 2012 11:24 petered wrote:
Anybody hating on the new shop is crazy. So much better now. You can get to any category instantly rather than having to click through menus.


man i hope your joking. it took me 10 minutes just to find out how to buy a doran blade. There is really nothing the new shop does better than the old, a lot of needless complexity and terrible design.


Not joking, you are just bad at looking. It is demonstrably better than the old in terms of how long it takes to get to any given item. The old shop bothered the crap out of me.

The new interface is whatever. No opinion on that. Don't see the need to change it but whatever floats their boat.

New masteries are blowing my mind. Really no clue what to get.
Early game and laning doesn't seem all that different to me so far, but once mid game hits everything is just so different.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
December 05 2012 03:06 GMT
#552
I wish they had a section for items with actives in the shop. Because there's too many items with actives to really keep track of them all through stats...
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
December 05 2012 03:11 GMT
#553
On December 05 2012 12:00 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 11:58 Irave wrote:
On December 05 2012 11:34 billy5000 wrote:
TheYango, are you saying that I should just skip philo altogether or get it later in the game? I do feel like gp/s items are unnecessary from this one game in which I just rushed sightstone and aegis as leona.

You have the opportunity to start the lane with the two pieces of the philo, 3 wards a biscuit and an hp pot. Which enables you to buy the philo on your first back to get the gp10 rolling. Kages is now actually useful for a support as well. I don't think we will see the rush sighstone being the way.

What's the point of rushing Philo when Sightstone's ward usage is effectively worth 2 gp10 items?

Bottle+Sightstone is more effective gp10 than actual gp10 items, lol.

Because you get a core item up and running sooner. At the expense of having to buy 2-3 more wards out of pocket. With the philo regen a good portion of supports won't even need to invest in the flask. So with what you save on the flask you pay for in wards. Rushing sighstone saves you a minimal amount of gold.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 05 2012 03:12 GMT
#554
kljahsdfkjhasdf
I don't like the new jungle at all :<
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 03:15:08
December 05 2012 03:13 GMT
#555
On December 05 2012 12:11 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 12:00 TheYango wrote:
On December 05 2012 11:58 Irave wrote:
On December 05 2012 11:34 billy5000 wrote:
TheYango, are you saying that I should just skip philo altogether or get it later in the game? I do feel like gp/s items are unnecessary from this one game in which I just rushed sightstone and aegis as leona.

You have the opportunity to start the lane with the two pieces of the philo, 3 wards a biscuit and an hp pot. Which enables you to buy the philo on your first back to get the gp10 rolling. Kages is now actually useful for a support as well. I don't think we will see the rush sighstone being the way.

What's the point of rushing Philo when Sightstone's ward usage is effectively worth 2 gp10 items?

Bottle+Sightstone is more effective gp10 than actual gp10 items, lol.

Because you get a core item up and running sooner. At the expense of having to buy 2-3 more wards out of pocket. With the philo regen a good portion of supports won't even need to invest in the flask. So with what you save on the flask you pay for in wards. Rushing sighstone saves you a minimal amount of gold.

Wait, how do you "save" on a Flask when Flask costs 225 and Philo costs 700.

It's Philo that's generating gold to catch up to Flask, not the other way round.

If you don't want the immediate Sightstone that's fine. Just rush your core item off just the Flask, and get Sightstone later. But it's silly to suggest that Philo is "saving" you money compared to a Flask.
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
December 05 2012 03:15 GMT
#556
Yeah I have no idea what to start on supports.

I'm tempted almost to just start with nothing but the biscuit and ghost ward and buy the sightstone as soon as possible.

Or maybe start with a flask and nothing else.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
December 05 2012 03:17 GMT
#557
Yes, this is definitely the worst jungle they've ever had.

The UI is probably also the worst they've ever had, though pre-release could probably give it a run for its money. Store UI is exceptionally bad because it they made it so bland that there aren't any meaningful visual clues to make finding things go faster.

I'm extraordinarily disappointed they never improved upon the UI given all the negative feedback it was given when it first came out.
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scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
December 05 2012 03:22 GMT
#558
So I've played a jungle diana game and a ryze mid game and the new jungle didn't seem or feel any different to me. I thought they were trying to make it more difficult for mid laners to take the jungle?
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
December 05 2012 03:23 GMT
#559
i feel like the archangels upgrade is kinda crap on everyone who isn't ryze
i can't justify the 600 damage shield over building a rod of ages or something instead
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
December 05 2012 03:26 GMT
#560
On December 05 2012 12:15 Ketara wrote:
Yeah I have no idea what to start on supports.

I'm tempted almost to just start with nothing but the biscuit and ghost ward and buy the sightstone as soon as possible.

Or maybe start with a flask and nothing else.


I like the idea of flask+1pink+2greens along with biscuit and 1min ward masteries. The presence of having a pink ward forces the other support to save up his ward in lane bush, but you also don't want to use your pink just to ward the lane bush and give up its presence in your inventory. So in that case I'd just use the 1min ward instead, and I do feel like the 1min ward should be used for lanes only because the minion waves are dynamic. I'm still looking for criticisms for this idea though.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
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