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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 20:15:54
December 04 2012 20:15 GMT
#261
mfw Hecarim buffs...

How's the new jungle? Will be harder to carry 4 scrubs a jungler now or easier?
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2012 20:20 GMT
#262
On December 05 2012 05:15 HazMat wrote:
mfw Hecarim buffs...

How's the new jungle? Will be harder to carry 4 scrubs a jungler now or easier?

You're going to get your ass kicked for the first clear or so.

I don't know which upgrade to get on Hec for Machete. Elder Lizard will be cool with Q spam, but the Armor and Health from Ancient Golem will be pretty good for raid boss Hec.
It's your boy Guzma!
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
December 04 2012 20:20 GMT
#263
On December 05 2012 05:15 HazMat wrote:
mfw Hecarim buffs...

How's the new jungle? Will be harder to carry 4 scrubs a jungler now or easier?

wrt Hecarim, the first clear kind of blows dicks, but it blows dicks even for Udyr.

After getting the machete upgrade clears actually feel faster than pre-jungle buff because of the damage amp on your W and Q.

Not sure what to build though, reverie itemization is kind of meh now since the philo isn't 1-stop-shop for all HP/Mana sustain
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
December 04 2012 20:22 GMT
#264
I'd say it will be easier. Bot lane will be even more untouchable though. First clear seems a bit slower, but after you upgrade your blade it's quick. I haven't had to buy gp10 items yet, the gold increase seems very noticeable.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
December 04 2012 20:25 GMT
#265
im so torn. Do I still go 21 offense on AP carries? Utility looks so good, especially with the free ward and biscuit.. I feel so safe
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StrigHT
Profile Joined August 2011
United States49 Posts
December 04 2012 20:25 GMT
#266
Anyone tried Trundle in the new jungle yet? He seems like he may have been given the largest "buff" in viability compared to other junglers. His single target damage is good, and his sustain is good.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
December 04 2012 20:26 GMT
#267
On December 05 2012 05:25 Perplex wrote:
im so torn. Do I still go 21 offense on AP carries? Utility looks so good, especially with the free ward and biscuit.. I feel so safe

Dude, you can't say no to the biscuit.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2012 20:28 GMT
#268
On December 05 2012 05:25 StrigHT wrote:
Anyone tried Trundle in the new jungle yet? He seems like he may have been given the largest "buff" in viability compared to other junglers. His single target damage is good, and his sustain is good.

You're still playing Trundle. Since the meta will probably still favor tanky semi-CC junglers, and Trundle is a debuff/zoning champ, he still kind of doesn't fit. He's not bad if you've got like a top lane Malph or bot Leona for CC, but I still think he's underwhelming in most comps.
It's your boy Guzma!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 04 2012 20:28 GMT
#269
On December 05 2012 05:13 Ketara wrote:
Do you guys think Deathfire Grasp will be an acceptable item on AP supports?

Like say on support Zyra. You can coordinate with your mid and use its active on his burst target, and it gives a big chunk of AP and CDR.

Just brainstorming.

You're spending a lot of money on an active they they could very well pick up themselves if they really want to blow up targets. Unless you've getting a lot of kills it would take forever to buy. It's much better in a double AP comp top and mid with one of them picking it up. You're better off building items to help out your ADC like Crucible or Shard of True Ice, or aura items.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
December 04 2012 20:34 GMT
#270
On December 05 2012 05:26 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 05:25 Perplex wrote:
im so torn. Do I still go 21 offense on AP carries? Utility looks so good, especially with the free ward and biscuit.. I feel so safe

Dude, you can't say no to the biscuit.


13/0/17
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23461 Posts
December 04 2012 20:42 GMT
#271
On December 05 2012 05:15 HazMat wrote:
mfw Hecarim buffs...

How's the new jungle? Will be harder to carry 4 scrubs a jungler now or easier?


harder probably since easiest way was to gank said scrubs lane
aka Teutonica
CarlMikael
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 20:57:24
December 04 2012 20:45 GMT
#272
When will this patch be applied to EUW ?
EDIT: Nvm im dumb :o
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
December 04 2012 20:49 GMT
#273
could someone try hydra on nasus plz
cool beans
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
December 04 2012 20:56 GMT
#274
On December 05 2012 05:15 HazMat wrote:
mfw Hecarim buffs...

How's the new jungle? Will be harder to carry 4 scrubs a jungler now or easier?

100% harder
You clear slower, so you spend less time doing things
or you fall more behind by doing things
you are overall less important now
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
December 04 2012 20:58 GMT
#275
Does anyone know if the new Doran's Shield passive works on Fiora's ultimate?
3.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 04 2012 21:07 GMT
#276
On December 05 2012 05:56 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 05:15 HazMat wrote:
mfw Hecarim buffs...

How's the new jungle? Will be harder to carry 4 scrubs a jungler now or easier?

100% harder
You clear slower, so you spend less time doing things
or you fall more behind by doing things
you are overall less important now

I feel like this really only applies after the first clear, after that you can gank without too much fear of falling behind.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
December 04 2012 21:16 GMT
#277
Guys Locket looks quite stronk
just stopped to say
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 04 2012 21:20 GMT
#278
On December 05 2012 06:16 Scip wrote:
Guys Locket looks quite stronk
just stopped to say


Xpecial agrees with you. He's been crowing about it on stream (while he loses this game).
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XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
December 04 2012 21:21 GMT
#279
Ohh shit, IWillDominate banned from competing in the Championship Series for a year.
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=32080366#32080366
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 04 2012 21:23 GMT
#280
On December 05 2012 06:21 Xacez wrote:
Ohh shit, IWillDominate banned from competing in the Championship Series for a year.
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=32080366#32080366


Maybe now Dig will get a good jungler :D
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