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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
November 23 2012 22:08 GMT
#3581
http://i.imgur.com/OV0q5.jpg
You believe this shit ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 23 2012 22:09 GMT
#3582
It's disturbingly fitting.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
November 23 2012 22:16 GMT
#3583
White Ra's face is everywhere!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 22:31:09
November 23 2012 22:20 GMT
#3584
Maybe I didn't get the obvious sarcasm, but that's Froggen
edit:
my bad then, been close to a year since I followed the big "White Ra's face is everywhere" thread xD
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
November 23 2012 22:30 GMT
#3585
On November 24 2012 07:20 AsnSensation wrote:
Maybe I didn't get the obvious sarcasm, but that's Froggen

u missed the joke
GANDHISAUCE
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 23 2012 22:31 GMT
#3586
LOL Froggen used gold card on a ward. GG.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
November 23 2012 22:33 GMT
#3587
It's obviously froggen, but it still kinda looks like white ra to me. But even if it didn't you could put white ra's face on anything.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 23 2012 22:36 GMT
#3588
On November 24 2012 05:45 shinarit wrote:
Guys, you talk about late game and silences (separately). What good is Soraka lategame? Compared to other not hyperagressive supports? She has a decent heal (with very nice armor boost), and that silence can be a lifesaver (that feel when Kat jumps into your team to ult and you say nope), but i feel like other supports just bring much more utility (Janna with all that CC, Sona triple auras, constant 15 armor/mr may be stronger than 105 peak) AND play better even in a defensive laning. I love Soraka, but at the moment i can't see why would i pick her (otherwise that she is awesome and my gurl).

Her heals are better. Plus her heal on whoever is getting focused is definitely stronger than Sona's armor aura, unless maybe you're against an AoE comp. Soraka just lets you push longer or defend longer than any other support, period. It's true once a teamfight actually emerges she's less useful than a clutch sona ultimate or janna tornadoes, but you'll win every war of attrition.

Strong against poke comps. Weak against dive comps.
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 23 2012 22:38 GMT
#3589
Plus soraka's Q has the most potential flat MR shred of anything in the game.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 23 2012 22:39 GMT
#3590
On November 24 2012 07:38 thenexusp wrote:
Plus soraka's Q has the most potential flat MR shred of anything in the game.

Yeah but that's not really worth mentioning because if you're able to use that it probably means you're out of position (lategame wise).
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 23 2012 22:58 GMT
#3591
On November 24 2012 07:39 Inschato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 07:38 thenexusp wrote:
Plus soraka's Q has the most potential flat MR shred of anything in the game.

Yeah but that's not really worth mentioning because if you're able to use that it probably means you're out of position (lategame wise).


Eh, you can spam it as their Olaf/etc dives your carries. Its not bad really.
Freeeeeeedom
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 23 2012 23:09 GMT
#3592
Yeah, it's good in some situations like softening up their divers, a lot more useful if you're already winning the teamfight because if you're losing it you probably can't afford to stand there casting it instead of repositioning.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 23 2012 23:28 GMT
#3593
I bit late, but I just got home from working Black Friday(I really hate people right now.) I tend to pick Fiora into Jax. Either you dodge my E or my ult, your choice. Either way I'm either coming out well ahead on trades to you're dead. Granted, they aren't the best Jax, but I'm not anything special either.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 23 2012 23:32 GMT
#3594
Thing is Jax will harshly outtrade you past level 6 if he's got a modicum of armor, even with your ult, so he doesn't really care to eat your ult if he can cancel your E. Passive+ult passive too strong on prolonged trades, which also decrease the effectiveness of your passive and W compared to short burst trades.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23401 Posts
November 23 2012 23:38 GMT
#3595
Jax just needs tabi and cloth or chain vest though his base damage is way higher than fioras and armour stacking outperforms ad stacking by far.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 23 2012 23:38 GMT
#3596
On November 24 2012 08:28 Gahlo wrote:
I bit late, but I just got home from working Black Friday(I really hate people right now.) I tend to pick Fiora into Jax. Either you dodge my E or my ult, your choice. Either way I'm either coming out well ahead on trades to you're dead. Granted, they aren't the best Jax, but I'm not anything special either.


Not sure how you actually win the match up, but it feels awfully difficult to me. Jax press E and you do absolutely zero damage.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 23 2012 23:40 GMT
#3597
Yeah I always assumed Jax countered Fiora because a rank 1 E is a great trade for an ulti on any champion.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 23 2012 23:43 GMT
#3598
On November 24 2012 08:40 obesechicken13 wrote:
Yeah I always assumed Jax countered Fiora because a rank 1 E is a great trade for an ulti on any champion.

Mmmm oranges... (W, and Malzahar/Warwick/Skarner but yeah :p)
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 23 2012 23:44 GMT
#3599
My understanding is that Fiora does OK against ranged champions because she has a gap closer and an MS steroid. Against melee bruisers she automatically lose because her kit scales better with items than levels (when opposing laner gets Ninja Tabi and a Chain Vest Fiora types GG).
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 23:48:00
November 23 2012 23:45 GMT
#3600
ive played that matchup (jax vs fiora)... it's not really the ult canceling that's a problem, it's his w base damage going through your parry... ruins your ability to trade. You never even really get to the point where you can all in him with ult.

When I play her (which I really like to do, she's fun and I have headmaster skin) I don't stress about winning lane top, I've just been going wriggles wits because it's safe and it's an extremely good teamfight build.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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