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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 23 2012 14:25 GMT
#3461
I just found out that Trist can jump while jumping if she gets an assist while jumping. Should this be common knowledge?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 14:46:16
November 23 2012 14:44 GMT
#3462
Well we need the Lol drama thread back so it doesn't pollute GD. Neo plz.

As for Ahri, looks better than many official champions and skins. I don't mean to look down on what riot's artists have accomplished, but this skin...
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 14:46:45
November 23 2012 14:46 GMT
#3463
On November 23 2012 23:44 cascades wrote:
Well we need the Lol drama thread back so it doesn't pollute GD. Neo plz.

As for Ahri, looks better than official champions.

But that one was polluted with discussions about sexism. Wat do.
The Ahri skin looks nice, it does need a differently colored charm or orb, though.
currently rooting for myself.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
November 23 2012 14:50 GMT
#3464
On November 23 2012 23:46 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 23:44 cascades wrote:
Well we need the Lol drama thread back so it doesn't pollute GD. Neo plz.

As for Ahri, looks better than official champions.

But that one was polluted with discussions about sexism. Wat do.
The Ahri skin looks nice, it does need a differently colored charm or orb, though.


Im voting for a lifesaver
KCCO!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 23 2012 14:51 GMT
#3465
I think a yellow/white orb with a pink charm would be real cool. Works well with the outfit :D
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
November 23 2012 14:58 GMT
#3466
On November 23 2012 15:37 Feartheguru wrote:
Being able to dominate nasus, yi and fiora does NOT make trundle a niche pick. Everyone dominates nasus, yi and fiora..
Being a niche pick means beating one or more of the popular top laners.


just wanted to throw out another misconception about top lane because this happens to be more false "common knowledge"
"everyone dominates fiora" is just like blatantly opposite of what's true
if you do more than 60% physical damage (which is like 85% of top laners) then fiora will start wrecking your shit from level 3 on. she has 1 or 2 weak levels. this holds true for nearly every matchup. if you deal mostly magic damage or are an auto-attacking counter (malph, nunu, lee sin) then her matchups vary from very easy (vlad) to nearly impossible (malph/nunu).
the reason fiora isn't picked is because she lacks cc and teamfighting ability
her laning is probably top 10 of all champs and top 4-5 for top-laners.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
November 23 2012 15:15 GMT
#3467
On November 23 2012 23:58 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 15:37 Feartheguru wrote:
Being able to dominate nasus, yi and fiora does NOT make trundle a niche pick. Everyone dominates nasus, yi and fiora..
Being a niche pick means beating one or more of the popular top laners.


just wanted to throw out another misconception about top lane because this happens to be more false "common knowledge"
"everyone dominates fiora" is just like blatantly opposite of what's true
if you do more than 60% physical damage (which is like 85% of top laners) then fiora will start wrecking your shit from level 3 on. she has 1 or 2 weak levels. this holds true for nearly every matchup. if you deal mostly magic damage or are an auto-attacking counter (malph, nunu, lee sin) then her matchups vary from very easy (vlad) to nearly impossible (malph/nunu).
the reason fiora isn't picked is because she lacks cc and teamfighting ability
her laning is probably top 10 of all champs and top 4-5 for top-laners.

I always go Olaf if I see a Fiora and just wreck face, she can't get away and loses pretty badly to Olaf.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 15:24:31
November 23 2012 15:21 GMT
#3468
On November 23 2012 23:58 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 15:37 Feartheguru wrote:
Being able to dominate nasus, yi and fiora does NOT make trundle a niche pick. Everyone dominates nasus, yi and fiora..
Being a niche pick means beating one or more of the popular top laners.


just wanted to throw out another misconception about top lane because this happens to be more false "common knowledge"
"everyone dominates fiora" is just like blatantly opposite of what's true
if you do more than 60% physical damage (which is like 85% of top laners) then fiora will start wrecking your shit from level 3 on. she has 1 or 2 weak levels. this holds true for nearly every matchup. if you deal mostly magic damage or are an auto-attacking counter (malph, nunu, lee sin) then her matchups vary from very easy (vlad) to nearly impossible (malph/nunu).
the reason fiora isn't picked is because she lacks cc and teamfighting ability
her laning is probably top 10 of all champs and top 4-5 for top-laners.

What.
Her laning is decent, but it's certainly not top 4-5. Everyone who can itemize a little armor without falling too far behind has a relatively easy time against her; there's not many champs who have such a hard time dealing with Ninja Tabi and a Chain Vest. Everyone with sustain is an issue, too, mainly because she is relatively mana hungry in my experience. She has 460 mana at level 6, and her whole combo costs her 260 mana, leaving her basically the option to harass once or twice and then all-in or go home.

Maybe I am horrible at playing her, maybe I have just played a bunch of scrubs, but I have always had a pretty easy time winning my lane against her on most champions. Not saying she doesn't have her niche, not saying she's bad, I just don't think she's THAT much of a great (top) laner.

I'm gladly willing to admit I'm wrong by the way, and maybe I am, I just don't see how she's that great in lane.
currently rooting for myself.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
November 23 2012 15:31 GMT
#3469
On November 24 2012 00:15 TSBspartacus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 23:58 gtrsrs wrote:
On November 23 2012 15:37 Feartheguru wrote:
Being able to dominate nasus, yi and fiora does NOT make trundle a niche pick. Everyone dominates nasus, yi and fiora..
Being a niche pick means beating one or more of the popular top laners.


just wanted to throw out another misconception about top lane because this happens to be more false "common knowledge"
"everyone dominates fiora" is just like blatantly opposite of what's true
if you do more than 60% physical damage (which is like 85% of top laners) then fiora will start wrecking your shit from level 3 on. she has 1 or 2 weak levels. this holds true for nearly every matchup. if you deal mostly magic damage or are an auto-attacking counter (malph, nunu, lee sin) then her matchups vary from very easy (vlad) to nearly impossible (malph/nunu).
the reason fiora isn't picked is because she lacks cc and teamfighting ability
her laning is probably top 10 of all champs and top 4-5 for top-laners.

I always go Olaf if I see a Fiora and just wreck face, she can't get away and loses pretty badly to Olaf.


She loses pretty bad to Jax too. Counterstrike her E, lol as she does nothing.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
November 23 2012 15:41 GMT
#3470
On November 24 2012 00:31 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 00:15 TSBspartacus wrote:
On November 23 2012 23:58 gtrsrs wrote:
On November 23 2012 15:37 Feartheguru wrote:
Being able to dominate nasus, yi and fiora does NOT make trundle a niche pick. Everyone dominates nasus, yi and fiora..
Being a niche pick means beating one or more of the popular top laners.


just wanted to throw out another misconception about top lane because this happens to be more false "common knowledge"
"everyone dominates fiora" is just like blatantly opposite of what's true
if you do more than 60% physical damage (which is like 85% of top laners) then fiora will start wrecking your shit from level 3 on. she has 1 or 2 weak levels. this holds true for nearly every matchup. if you deal mostly magic damage or are an auto-attacking counter (malph, nunu, lee sin) then her matchups vary from very easy (vlad) to nearly impossible (malph/nunu).
the reason fiora isn't picked is because she lacks cc and teamfighting ability
her laning is probably top 10 of all champs and top 4-5 for top-laners.

I always go Olaf if I see a Fiora and just wreck face, she can't get away and loses pretty badly to Olaf.


She loses pretty bad to Jax too. Counterstrike her E, lol as she does nothing.

Counterstrike her ult.
ololololol
A backwards poet writes inverse.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 23 2012 16:05 GMT
#3471
Her Q is just garbage, needs to do quite a bit more damage. Most champions can heal the harass in like 2 autoattacks =_=

but yea like gtrsrsrsrs said one of the only MUs i will willingly pick her top is against vlad, absolutely destroys him. But then again you can just pick xin zhao and get the same affect but a stronger champ.
I come in for the scraps
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 16:11:49
November 23 2012 16:11 GMT
#3472
On November 23 2012 23:25 spinesheath wrote:
I just found out that Trist can jump while jumping if she gets an assist while jumping. Should this be common knowledge?

Ever played against trist in an AI game and the AI does a jump away from you and fires a buster shot at almost the same time, opening an insane distance between you two? I feel like it's one of those moves that only really possible in a 0 ping environment

But yeah, I think I was mildly aware that trist could use abilities mid-jump, but never really took advantage of it
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
November 23 2012 16:16 GMT
#3473
That Ahri skin, wow.

Anyway - twitch/own3d and most streaming sites are blocked at work. Any good vods to watch from, say, youtube?
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 16:33:42
November 23 2012 16:30 GMT
#3474
If you open with vamp scepter on Nasus against me when I'm playing Yorick I'm just going to max Q and fuck you up.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 23 2012 16:39 GMT
#3475
when are you going to learn manners?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 23 2012 16:50 GMT
#3476
I have a losing record in ranked.

WHYYYYYYYYYYY
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 16:53:32
November 23 2012 16:52 GMT
#3477
On November 24 2012 01:11 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 23:25 spinesheath wrote:
I just found out that Trist can jump while jumping if she gets an assist while jumping. Should this be common knowledge?

Ever played against trist in an AI game and the AI does a jump away from you and fires a buster shot at almost the same time, opening an insane distance between you two? I feel like it's one of those moves that only really possible in a 0 ping environment

But yeah, I think I was mildly aware that trist could use abilities mid-jump, but never really took advantage of it

I do that all the time in a lower speed environment. I wasn't aware that Trist could jump while jumping though and I play a lot of Trist. Physics? What is that?

Tristana can do more than just ult while jumping. She can fire autos and Es as well. She can even flash though the times you want to are rare (avoid hooks, really make distance quickly).

Caitlyn can also place traps while netting iirc and you can do a really cool auto Q E trap combo.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 23 2012 16:54 GMT
#3478
On November 24 2012 01:30 koreasilver wrote:
If you open with vamp scepter on Nasus against me when I'm playing Yorick I'm just going to max Q and fuck you up.

I had a Nasus in a game a while back who went vamp scepter -> vamp scepter -> vamp scepter. Yeah, he died a couple times but eventually he was allowed to farm and became an unstoppable force mid-late game. It was funny. (I'm sure it was just because the other team didn't properly take advantage of his stupidity)
3.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 23 2012 16:58 GMT
#3479
On November 24 2012 01:52 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 01:11 thenexusp wrote:
On November 23 2012 23:25 spinesheath wrote:
I just found out that Trist can jump while jumping if she gets an assist while jumping. Should this be common knowledge?

Ever played against trist in an AI game and the AI does a jump away from you and fires a buster shot at almost the same time, opening an insane distance between you two? I feel like it's one of those moves that only really possible in a 0 ping environment

But yeah, I think I was mildly aware that trist could use abilities mid-jump, but never really took advantage of it

I do that all the time in a lower speed environment. I wasn't aware that Trist could jump while jumping though and I play a lot of Trist. Physics? What is that?

Tristana can do more than just ult while jumping. She can fire autos and Es as well. She can even flash though the times you want to are rare (avoid hooks, really make distance quickly).

Caitlyn can also place traps while netting iirc and you can do a really cool auto Q E trap combo.


Well if for all Riots claims of transparency they still haven't changed Trist jump to be an able jump and not just a dash with jump animation. Confuses people :<
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 23 2012 17:00 GMT
#3480
I remember someone saying that Fiora crushes Panth at level 1, which is a rare thing (Q->aa->Q->aa, ~240 damage with ~20 bonus AD, and you heal around 50 HP from passive).
Then I remembered Darius does 100 + bonus AD damage with his Q at level 1, outruns you through his passive and apply bleed stacks for 50+ magic damage (that is with 3 stacks).

Fuck Darius, really. But I've been ranting about that a lot recently.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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