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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
November 10 2012 16:45 GMT
#5681
Just a short question:
A while back i asked for something like TLPD for LoL and people only said "Well, elobuff is the closest thing", which didn't really satisfy my need for statistics, so i threw together http://lolpd.net/ (only dummy data and no layout atm, just a proof of concept).

Is there interest for a pure game/champion/player database or do you guys think Elobuff is good enough and i shouldn't waste time on a LoL TLPD?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 10 2012 16:52 GMT
#5682
On November 11 2012 00:56 rewired wrote:
Ok seriously what do you guys do to beat/stop Garen ever since they changed him I've lost EVERY lane to this spinning fucker.

as a note the top laners I play are Olaf Darius Jayce(I break even with him) Nidalee and rarely Malphite

do you just have to be aggressive or what I'm sick of getting run over by him.


jayce should have no problem. you should at least break even yeah.

nidalee should annihilate him, he can't get to you and you are ranged

I don't know about darius but im pretty sure he's stronger..

if u want to specialize item vs him get hexdrinker or whatever the shit it's called and then trade to the death with him.. he will die first or be forced out of lane


watch him proceed to rage
rewired
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada630 Posts
November 10 2012 17:05 GMT
#5683
Thanks for the advice guys from what you are pointing out I guess I'm playing to passively and letting him take advantage of his passive too much. Also it never occurred to me to just get a hexdrinker thanks I will put your advice to use the first chance I get!
The road isn't always straight.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 17:19:27
November 10 2012 17:13 GMT
#5684
On November 11 2012 01:52 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 00:56 rewired wrote:
Ok seriously what do you guys do to beat/stop Garen ever since they changed him I've lost EVERY lane to this spinning fucker.

as a note the top laners I play are Olaf Darius Jayce(I break even with him) Nidalee and rarely Malphite

do you just have to be aggressive or what I'm sick of getting run over by him.


jayce should have no problem. you should at least break even yeah.

nidalee should annihilate him, he can't get to you and you are ranged

I don't know about darius but im pretty sure he's stronger..

if u want to specialize item vs him get hexdrinker or whatever the shit it's called and then trade to the death with him.. he will die first or be forced out of lane


watch him proceed to rage

Why hexdrinker? For his ult? I'd rather get armor.

I feel in any laning session armor will reduce more damage giving me a higher chance of winning lane.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 10 2012 17:15 GMT
#5685
hexdrinker makes his ult do less than armor would, and gives u damage. just personal preference for if you are specializing against him
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 17:20:22
November 10 2012 17:19 GMT
#5686
If they're making QSS only stop the immobilization effect of Malz/WW ults, I wonder if they'll make Cleanse also work.

Malz really needs the buff. I feel bad when I'm laning against him and just rush QSS and then he can't kill me.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 10 2012 17:21 GMT
#5687
On November 11 2012 02:19 Ketara wrote:
If they're making QSS only stop the immobilization effect of Malz/WW ults, I wonder if they'll make Cleanse also work.

Malz really needs the buff. I feel bad when I'm laning against him and just rush QSS and then he can't kill me.


Doubtful. Why would Riot give them an explicit buff and then nerf them on the back of it.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 10 2012 17:28 GMT
#5688
On November 11 2012 00:56 rewired wrote:
Ok seriously what do you guys do to beat/stop Garen ever since they changed him I've lost EVERY lane to this spinning fucker.

as a note the top laners I play are Olaf Darius Jayce(I break even with him) Nidalee and rarely Malphite

do you just have to be aggressive or what I'm sick of getting run over by him.

something a lot of ppl don't realize and is slightly counterintuitive is that if garen is spinning on top of you, the best course of action is typically to stand there and auto him back. This goes double if he's in the middle of your creeps (which is common). The biggest mistake most ppl make when playing vs garen is running away from his spin when he's obviously going to get the whole spin off anyways. A lot of times you can either close the damage difference in the trade, or even straight-up out trade him. I have beaten garen with all of the above champions you listed. Alternatively you can just play panth or urgot and smash his face in
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 10 2012 17:28 GMT
#5689
I dunno that it'd be a nerf to Malz/WW, it'd be a nerf to QSS.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 17:32:30
November 10 2012 17:31 GMT
#5690
On November 11 2012 02:19 Ketara wrote:
If they're making QSS only stop the immobilization effect of Malz/WW ults, I wonder if they'll make Cleanse also work.

Malz really needs the buff. I feel bad when I'm laning against him and just rush QSS and then he can't kill me.

uh, i'm not sure malz needs the buff. The champ is fucking OP as hell, his nullzone does retarded damage in the mid-late game.

edit: and the earlygame power levels on q,e and r are very high as well.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 10 2012 17:34 GMT
#5691
Random question but when do they change patches for tournaments I really want to see bot lane without ezreal being king.
Glorious SEA doto
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 17:42:14
November 10 2012 17:41 GMT
#5692
nidalee doesnt beat REGEN garen because her puny harass is weak but she can farm
olaf doesnt really win either brush regen and let olaf kill himself npnp
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 10 2012 17:43 GMT
#5693
On November 11 2012 02:41 Slayer91 wrote:
nidalee doesnt beat REGEN garen because her puny harass is weak but she can farm
olaf doesnt really win either brush regen and let olaf kill himself npnp

to be fair, the vast majority of garen's are very much behind the curve when it comes to regen garen.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 10 2012 18:14 GMT
#5694
wow, they're getting rid of leashing o.o

i did always wonder why the mechanic was even in the game/not fixed, so it's no real surprise
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 10 2012 18:20 GMT
#5695
I honestly really like that they're getting rid of leashing. I think it will open up a lot more level 1 schenanigans.

It seems like the changes in general are going to favor ganky mids. Less early jungle pressure, no leashes, better early game items, wraiths harder to farm, etc.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
November 10 2012 18:20 GMT
#5696
I think this discussion was a couple of pages back, but is it necessary to have 2 blue crit runes instead of 1? Just curious.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 18:24:26
November 10 2012 18:23 GMT
#5697
On November 11 2012 03:20 Mondeezy wrote:
I think this discussion was a couple of pages back, but is it necessary to have 2 blue crit runes instead of 1? Just curious.


Depends, do you want a crit every 400 shots or every 200?

Crit chance doesn't get rounded internally so 1, 2 or 9, the only difference is how much you like to gamble.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 10 2012 18:24 GMT
#5698
I thought everyone beats regen garen once it's out of lane phase though.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 18:27:55
November 10 2012 18:27 GMT
#5699
On November 11 2012 03:24 Numy wrote:
I thought everyone beats regen garen once it's out of lane phase though.


But we all know:
The only thing that matters is winning your lane, then you can blame your teammates for losing the game even if you were useless for half the game going from 10/0 to 10/9.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 18:37:09
November 10 2012 18:36 GMT
#5700
On November 11 2012 03:20 Ketara wrote:
I honestly really like that they're getting rid of leashing. I think it will open up a lot more level 1 schenanigans.

It seems like the changes in general are going to favor ganky mids. Less early jungle pressure, no leashes, better early game items, wraiths harder to farm, etc.

Little tricks like these are what separate the good players from the great players in BW. Leashing isn't that elite but it probably was when it first came out.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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