• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:41
CEST 23:41
KST 06:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo16Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? Yamato Cup Series What kind of tool would you be interested in? StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
GSL CK #4 20-21th June Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ STARCRAFT MOVIE - Last Night at the Command center BW General Discussion Battle cruiser feet vs Carrier fleet Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10348 users

[Patch 1.0.0.150: Shadow Isles] General Discussion - Page…

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 283 284 285 286 287 310 Next
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
November 10 2012 16:45 GMT
#5681
Just a short question:
A while back i asked for something like TLPD for LoL and people only said "Well, elobuff is the closest thing", which didn't really satisfy my need for statistics, so i threw together http://lolpd.net/ (only dummy data and no layout atm, just a proof of concept).

Is there interest for a pure game/champion/player database or do you guys think Elobuff is good enough and i shouldn't waste time on a LoL TLPD?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 10 2012 16:52 GMT
#5682
On November 11 2012 00:56 rewired wrote:
Ok seriously what do you guys do to beat/stop Garen ever since they changed him I've lost EVERY lane to this spinning fucker.

as a note the top laners I play are Olaf Darius Jayce(I break even with him) Nidalee and rarely Malphite

do you just have to be aggressive or what I'm sick of getting run over by him.


jayce should have no problem. you should at least break even yeah.

nidalee should annihilate him, he can't get to you and you are ranged

I don't know about darius but im pretty sure he's stronger..

if u want to specialize item vs him get hexdrinker or whatever the shit it's called and then trade to the death with him.. he will die first or be forced out of lane


watch him proceed to rage
rewired
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada630 Posts
November 10 2012 17:05 GMT
#5683
Thanks for the advice guys from what you are pointing out I guess I'm playing to passively and letting him take advantage of his passive too much. Also it never occurred to me to just get a hexdrinker thanks I will put your advice to use the first chance I get!
The road isn't always straight.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 17:19:27
November 10 2012 17:13 GMT
#5684
On November 11 2012 01:52 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 00:56 rewired wrote:
Ok seriously what do you guys do to beat/stop Garen ever since they changed him I've lost EVERY lane to this spinning fucker.

as a note the top laners I play are Olaf Darius Jayce(I break even with him) Nidalee and rarely Malphite

do you just have to be aggressive or what I'm sick of getting run over by him.


jayce should have no problem. you should at least break even yeah.

nidalee should annihilate him, he can't get to you and you are ranged

I don't know about darius but im pretty sure he's stronger..

if u want to specialize item vs him get hexdrinker or whatever the shit it's called and then trade to the death with him.. he will die first or be forced out of lane


watch him proceed to rage

Why hexdrinker? For his ult? I'd rather get armor.

I feel in any laning session armor will reduce more damage giving me a higher chance of winning lane.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 10 2012 17:15 GMT
#5685
hexdrinker makes his ult do less than armor would, and gives u damage. just personal preference for if you are specializing against him
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 17:20:22
November 10 2012 17:19 GMT
#5686
If they're making QSS only stop the immobilization effect of Malz/WW ults, I wonder if they'll make Cleanse also work.

Malz really needs the buff. I feel bad when I'm laning against him and just rush QSS and then he can't kill me.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 10 2012 17:21 GMT
#5687
On November 11 2012 02:19 Ketara wrote:
If they're making QSS only stop the immobilization effect of Malz/WW ults, I wonder if they'll make Cleanse also work.

Malz really needs the buff. I feel bad when I'm laning against him and just rush QSS and then he can't kill me.


Doubtful. Why would Riot give them an explicit buff and then nerf them on the back of it.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 10 2012 17:28 GMT
#5688
On November 11 2012 00:56 rewired wrote:
Ok seriously what do you guys do to beat/stop Garen ever since they changed him I've lost EVERY lane to this spinning fucker.

as a note the top laners I play are Olaf Darius Jayce(I break even with him) Nidalee and rarely Malphite

do you just have to be aggressive or what I'm sick of getting run over by him.

something a lot of ppl don't realize and is slightly counterintuitive is that if garen is spinning on top of you, the best course of action is typically to stand there and auto him back. This goes double if he's in the middle of your creeps (which is common). The biggest mistake most ppl make when playing vs garen is running away from his spin when he's obviously going to get the whole spin off anyways. A lot of times you can either close the damage difference in the trade, or even straight-up out trade him. I have beaten garen with all of the above champions you listed. Alternatively you can just play panth or urgot and smash his face in
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 10 2012 17:28 GMT
#5689
I dunno that it'd be a nerf to Malz/WW, it'd be a nerf to QSS.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 17:32:30
November 10 2012 17:31 GMT
#5690
On November 11 2012 02:19 Ketara wrote:
If they're making QSS only stop the immobilization effect of Malz/WW ults, I wonder if they'll make Cleanse also work.

Malz really needs the buff. I feel bad when I'm laning against him and just rush QSS and then he can't kill me.

uh, i'm not sure malz needs the buff. The champ is fucking OP as hell, his nullzone does retarded damage in the mid-late game.

edit: and the earlygame power levels on q,e and r are very high as well.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 10 2012 17:34 GMT
#5691
Random question but when do they change patches for tournaments I really want to see bot lane without ezreal being king.
Glorious SEA doto
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 17:42:14
November 10 2012 17:41 GMT
#5692
nidalee doesnt beat REGEN garen because her puny harass is weak but she can farm
olaf doesnt really win either brush regen and let olaf kill himself npnp
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 10 2012 17:43 GMT
#5693
On November 11 2012 02:41 Slayer91 wrote:
nidalee doesnt beat REGEN garen because her puny harass is weak but she can farm
olaf doesnt really win either brush regen and let olaf kill himself npnp

to be fair, the vast majority of garen's are very much behind the curve when it comes to regen garen.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 10 2012 18:14 GMT
#5694
wow, they're getting rid of leashing o.o

i did always wonder why the mechanic was even in the game/not fixed, so it's no real surprise
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 10 2012 18:20 GMT
#5695
I honestly really like that they're getting rid of leashing. I think it will open up a lot more level 1 schenanigans.

It seems like the changes in general are going to favor ganky mids. Less early jungle pressure, no leashes, better early game items, wraiths harder to farm, etc.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
November 10 2012 18:20 GMT
#5696
I think this discussion was a couple of pages back, but is it necessary to have 2 blue crit runes instead of 1? Just curious.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 18:24:26
November 10 2012 18:23 GMT
#5697
On November 11 2012 03:20 Mondeezy wrote:
I think this discussion was a couple of pages back, but is it necessary to have 2 blue crit runes instead of 1? Just curious.


Depends, do you want a crit every 400 shots or every 200?

Crit chance doesn't get rounded internally so 1, 2 or 9, the only difference is how much you like to gamble.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 10 2012 18:24 GMT
#5698
I thought everyone beats regen garen once it's out of lane phase though.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 18:27:55
November 10 2012 18:27 GMT
#5699
On November 11 2012 03:24 Numy wrote:
I thought everyone beats regen garen once it's out of lane phase though.


But we all know:
The only thing that matters is winning your lane, then you can blame your teammates for losing the game even if you were useless for half the game going from 10/0 to 10/9.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 18:37:09
November 10 2012 18:36 GMT
#5700
On November 11 2012 03:20 Ketara wrote:
I honestly really like that they're getting rid of leashing. I think it will open up a lot more level 1 schenanigans.

It seems like the changes in general are going to favor ganky mids. Less early jungle pressure, no leashes, better early game items, wraiths harder to farm, etc.

Little tricks like these are what separate the good players from the great players in BW. Leashing isn't that elite but it probably was when it first came out.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Prev 1 283 284 285 286 287 310 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
19:00
Group Stage - Day 4
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
ZZZero.O386
LiquipediaDiscussion
Patches Events
17:00
Patches' Patch Clash #8
RotterdaM789
davetesta23
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 789
ByuN 732
CosmosSc2 117
Railgan 40
StarCraft: Brood War
ZZZero.O 386
NaDa 8
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Doublelift3908
Counter-Strike
summit1g7544
Other Games
Grubby4554
singsing2082
C9.Mang0609
NeuroSwarm44
UpATreeSC1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1348
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 7
• blackmanpl 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1250
• Shiphtur191
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 19m
WardiTV Weekly
13h 19m
Monday Night Weeklies
18h 19m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 12h
The PondCast
2 days
Douyu Cup 2020
3 days
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
Douyu Cup 2020
4 days
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
5 days
[ Show More ]
Douyu Cup 2020
6 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
6 days
Online Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-19
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light HT
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.