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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 10 2012 00:03 GMT
#5481
On November 10 2012 08:49 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 08:36 Gahlo wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=31229244#post31229244
Sightstone (650 Gold)
+125 Health
Unique Passive - Refresh (Ward) : Starts with 4 charges and refills each time you stop by your shop.
Unique Active - Ghost Ward: Consumes a charge to place an invisible ward that reveals the surrounding area for 3 minutes. You may have a maximum of 2 wards from this item at once.


All hail new support wriggles.

EDIT: And it upgrades too.

Depending on the upgrade, it could be good on everyone. It gives 329 gold worth of HP and provides 300 gold worth of wards from the get-go. If you're ever going to place more than 4 wards (pretty much everyone) it's cost-effective immediately and only gets better.

Support might actually be the least likely to want it because supports are the most likely to have more than 2 wards up at once.

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On November 10 2012 08:49 kainzero wrote:
wow, even cheaper wards?

mehhh
if it upgrades i can see every lane picking this up since it's super cheap and practically prevents ganks

Agreed. The fact that it essentially removes the cost from re-warding your lane after it's been Oracle cleared also potentially makes things awkward for jungle ganks.


I think you're way off base regarding the value of the Sightstone for supports. Having the ability to keep two wards up for the whole game is worth at least 8 gp10 for a support. Factor in Oracle's and it can be worth even more. No support is going to think, "Oh darn, I need to place more than two wards at some point, better ignore Sightstone." For both laning and later in the game, this item is a support's dream. It's not like they can't have this and also buy any additional wards they need.

I do, however, agree with kainzero that there's a risk everyone will want this item, and that's probably both a bad thing and not what Riot intends.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 10 2012 00:03 GMT
#5482
That thing has got to be the dumbest thing riot has suggested in a while.
Cackle™
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
November 10 2012 00:04 GMT
#5483
5 sightstones is fine when you consider all the money you save on buying wards
except ad carry probably wont get it support with just buy a couple extra wards to make up for it
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
November 10 2012 00:04 GMT
#5484
What is the "statikk shiv" ? o-o
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 00:05:51
November 10 2012 00:05 GMT
#5485
On November 10 2012 08:57 TheYango wrote:
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On November 10 2012 08:54 Gahlo wrote:
With the absence of HOG, it gives a HP buffer and provides "wards" to let you get on with your build. I don't think the intention is to remove all buying of wards, but to reduce it.

How often is it that your team wants or needs more than 10 wards on the map at once?

It's going to take an item slot that was pretty much always devoted to wards in the first place, while not costing anything to replace the wards, giving you 125 HP in that slot, AND having the option to build it to something.

Even if their intention is not to remove all ward buying, this honestly has the potential to do that.

I eagerly await the hilarity of having 3xWriggles + 5xSightstone on a team.

I actually bought 4 wards yesterday in a line and tried to trick a lux into walking over towards each one and thinking she was getting baited. It almost worked but she killed 3 with no loss to herself :p

I don't really care for the item change discussion. I'll skim over them when I get the chance and then I'll abuse what I can. Abuse what I think is bad on my enemies too.
Riot has made the game rather stale. They should release a whole bunch of stuff.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
November 10 2012 00:07 GMT
#5486
Riot can seriously destroy the game with this item overhaul. These changes are so drastic and I don't like it. It took them long enough to make the game "balance" as it is, and now they need to start from scratch.. I guarantee some champion will become completely broken because they synergize too well with the new items.
Best Teemo World
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
November 10 2012 00:08 GMT
#5487
On November 10 2012 09:07 qanik wrote:
Riot can seriously destroy the game with this item overhaul. These changes are so drastic and I don't like it. It took them long enough to make the game "balance" as it is, and now they need to start from scratch.. I guarantee some champion will become completely broken because they synergize too well with the new items.

Better than making a new game I guess. However adding in this in addition to continually releasing champions every two weeks...
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
November 10 2012 00:09 GMT
#5488
On November 10 2012 09:08 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 09:07 qanik wrote:
Riot can seriously destroy the game with this item overhaul. These changes are so drastic and I don't like it. It took them long enough to make the game "balance" as it is, and now they need to start from scratch.. I guarantee some champion will become completely broken because they synergize too well with the new items.

Better than making a new game I guess. However adding in this in addition to continually releasing champions every two weeks...

When was the last time they had back to back to back 2 week champion cycles though?
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
November 10 2012 00:10 GMT
#5489
On November 10 2012 08:55 Xevious wrote:
Show nested quote +
Ionic Spark – Removed

RIOT WHAT HAVE YOU DONE MY GLORIOUS LIGHTNING NOOOOOOOOOOO
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


But my favorite item...Riot breaking my heart.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
November 10 2012 00:11 GMT
#5490
On November 10 2012 09:10 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 08:55 Xevious wrote:
Ionic Spark – Removed

RIOT WHAT HAVE YOU DONE MY GLORIOUS LIGHTNING NOOOOOOOOOOO
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


But my favorite item...Riot breaking my heart.

Riot's plan to make you play Dominion.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 10 2012 00:12 GMT
#5491
On November 10 2012 09:04 Slayer91 wrote:
5 sightstones is fine when you consider all the money you save on buying wards
except ad carry probably wont get it support with just buy a couple extra wards to make up for it

I'd get it on AD. Maybe not early game, but there's a point where your AD would rather have wards in 6th slot than a DBlade, and now he can have a Sightstone instead.
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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
November 10 2012 00:14 GMT
#5492
On November 10 2012 09:09 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 09:08 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On November 10 2012 09:07 qanik wrote:
Riot can seriously destroy the game with this item overhaul. These changes are so drastic and I don't like it. It took them long enough to make the game "balance" as it is, and now they need to start from scratch.. I guarantee some champion will become completely broken because they synergize too well with the new items.

Better than making a new game I guess. However adding in this in addition to continually releasing champions every two weeks...

When was the last time they had back to back to back 2 week champion cycles though?

With brand new items, and a completely different jungle, considering it took us MONTHS (not including the previous season) to get to the point where people are smart enough to stop playing all junglers that need wriggles, it could take a really really long time for players to get to a point of normalcy.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 00:14:53
November 10 2012 00:14 GMT
#5493
On November 10 2012 09:12 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 09:04 Slayer91 wrote:
5 sightstones is fine when you consider all the money you save on buying wards
except ad carry probably wont get it support with just buy a couple extra wards to make up for it

I'd get it on AD. Maybe not early game, but there's a point where your AD would rather have wards in 6th slot than a DBlade, and now he can have a Sightstone instead.



he needs that money for green pot though
oh wait

that was actually a well thought out interesting idea
anti snowballing of ads which snowball ridiculously hard atm
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
November 10 2012 00:15 GMT
#5494
For some reason my LoL ping is around 200 even though my connection is perfectly fine otherwise. Anyone have any idea why this might be happening? It's been going on for the past week.
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
November 10 2012 00:16 GMT
#5495
On November 10 2012 09:07 qanik wrote:
Riot can seriously destroy the game with this item overhaul. These changes are so drastic and I don't like it. It took them long enough to make the game "balance" as it is, and now they need to start from scratch.. I guarantee some champion will become completely broken because they synergize too well with the new items.


Took longer than normal for the doom gloomers to come out. Every big change that has been implement since I started playing, people have predicted it would destroy the game.

They have been quite obviously wrong every time, but hey, there is always next time!
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
November 10 2012 00:17 GMT
#5496
at 650 gold there's no reason why you can't pick it up early game, secure yourself from ganks, and then sell it mid/late game if you need money or slot efficiency.


i don't understand why they are making drastic changes instead of incremental ones designed to test how everything's going before going on with the next change.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 10 2012 00:17 GMT
#5497
On November 10 2012 09:15 LoCicero wrote:
For some reason my LoL ping is around 200 even though my connection is perfectly fine otherwise. Anyone have any idea why this might be happening? It's been going on for the past week.


had the same problem today on EUW, started a botgame to lasthit abit 30 ping as usual totally fine, enter ranked game suddenly constant 200~ping, took a break after almost smashing my keyboard because it was the first time i had ping issues, enter new ranked game 30-50 normal ping with occasional spikes to 170-200
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
November 10 2012 00:17 GMT
#5498
On November 10 2012 09:16 petered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 09:07 qanik wrote:
Riot can seriously destroy the game with this item overhaul. These changes are so drastic and I don't like it. It took them long enough to make the game "balance" as it is, and now they need to start from scratch.. I guarantee some champion will become completely broken because they synergize too well with the new items.


Took longer than normal for the doom gloomers to come out. Every big change that has been implement since I started playing, people have predicted it would destroy the game.

They have been quite obviously wrong every time, but hey, there is always next time!

Only wrong in "destroy the game," but frequently right in "this is a horrible decision that needs to be reversed immediately."
twitch.tv/cratonz
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 10 2012 00:18 GMT
#5499
Ionic spark??? Gone??? NOOOO
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
November 10 2012 00:18 GMT
#5500
On November 10 2012 09:15 LoCicero wrote:
For some reason my LoL ping is around 200 even though my connection is perfectly fine otherwise. Anyone have any idea why this might be happening? It's been going on for the past week.

Stop downloading porn.

Also stream more, that'll fix it.
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