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qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
September 30 2012 03:13 GMT
#941
On September 30 2012 12:09 overt wrote:
I dunno. Avarice blade into MBR sounds like a really solid build on any champion imoimoimo. The CDR boots are what really give that build its potency.


no build is complete without mejais
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Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
September 30 2012 03:15 GMT
#942
On September 30 2012 12:04 xes wrote:
What's counterplay to Rengar top? No mana costs + sustain button = I can't figure out what to do.


darius tho
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 30 2012 03:16 GMT
#943
On September 30 2012 11:51 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 11:34 UniversalSnip wrote:
On September 30 2012 10:58 Diamond wrote:
Didn't feel like getting into SR tonight so hit up my first game of TT. Weird shit. The Season 1 jungle is pretty interesting, never played jungle back then (was only lvl 5 or 6 back at that point) so was my first time experiencing it. Man S1 Wraiths are a bitch. Ended up going 17/4/8 as Shyvanna though, so good times!


Yeah TT wraiths are pretty much the endboss of that map.

The TT jungle mobs aren't the same as S1 jungle mobs, if that's what you're implying.

Jungling dynamics are definitely a lot different between TT and SR with how painful the camps are.

I think he's referecing how there was a switch some time in season 2 where jungle creeps were nerfed along with the exp they gave and the effectiveness of Wriggles. They also added healing orbs to SR creeps. They didn't change any of this on TT while keeping the wriggles nerf.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17296 Posts
September 30 2012 03:23 GMT
#944
I fondly remember the time where 90%+ of my games didn't contain Kat and Ezreal.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 30 2012 03:24 GMT
#945
On September 30 2012 11:51 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 11:34 UniversalSnip wrote:
On September 30 2012 10:58 Diamond wrote:
Didn't feel like getting into SR tonight so hit up my first game of TT. Weird shit. The Season 1 jungle is pretty interesting, never played jungle back then (was only lvl 5 or 6 back at that point) so was my first time experiencing it. Man S1 Wraiths are a bitch. Ended up going 17/4/8 as Shyvanna though, so good times!


Yeah TT wraiths are pretty much the endboss of that map.

The TT jungle mobs aren't the same as S1 jungle mobs, if that's what you're implying.


Hmm, not sure how you could take it to mean that. I was just talking about how backbreaking TT wraiths are, they're definitely not the same as s1 SR wraiths. Honestly I bet they could triple kill a lot of team comps at level 1.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 30 2012 03:30 GMT
#946
I picked Darius into Jax and got stomped. Did I get outplayed or was that a really dumb pick on my part? I don't play Darius enough to know who he's good/bad against.
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Glaceau
Profile Joined February 2012
Wales333 Posts
September 30 2012 03:37 GMT
#947
you got stomped, jax sucks vs darius

or you got camped which is more likely since thats an easy lane to camp for...if it was just 1v1 you got destroyed hard
Cmon, swing it
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 30 2012 03:41 GMT
#948
Eh, he got an early gank and pushed the advantage. I probably should have been more aggressive though.
It's your boy Guzma!
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
September 30 2012 03:44 GMT
#949
NonY streaming LoL :D
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 30 2012 03:54 GMT
#950
That's interesting. I had a darius who was up 3 kills and 2 levels on a jax, but was getting his ass kicked.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
September 30 2012 03:55 GMT
#951
On September 30 2012 12:44 ChaoSbringer wrote:
NonY streaming LoL :D


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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
September 30 2012 03:57 GMT
#952
On September 30 2012 12:16 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 11:51 Craton wrote:
On September 30 2012 11:34 UniversalSnip wrote:
On September 30 2012 10:58 Diamond wrote:
Didn't feel like getting into SR tonight so hit up my first game of TT. Weird shit. The Season 1 jungle is pretty interesting, never played jungle back then (was only lvl 5 or 6 back at that point) so was my first time experiencing it. Man S1 Wraiths are a bitch. Ended up going 17/4/8 as Shyvanna though, so good times!


Yeah TT wraiths are pretty much the endboss of that map.

The TT jungle mobs aren't the same as S1 jungle mobs, if that's what you're implying.

Jungling dynamics are definitely a lot different between TT and SR with how painful the camps are.

I think he's referecing how there was a switch some time in season 2 where jungle creeps were nerfed along with the exp they gave and the effectiveness of Wriggles. They also added healing orbs to SR creeps. They didn't change any of this on TT while keeping the wriggles nerf.


Yes this, sorry I thought everything was the same as S1 (obv aside for layout). Either way, quite diff.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 30 2012 03:58 GMT
#953
On September 30 2012 12:23 Craton wrote:
I fondly remember the time where 90%+ of my games didn't contain Kat and Ezreal.


I don't mind Kat. She is fun, ish.
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 04:06:05
September 30 2012 04:04 GMT
#954
does anyone have general advice for ranked 5s roughly around 14-1500 range where you start getting matched with 2k elo teams every other game and it feels like you just get outplayed every step of the game?

or i guess how would you try to play a game in which all of the enemy team are significantly better than your own?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17296 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 04:13:22
September 30 2012 04:11 GMT
#955
On September 30 2012 12:58 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 12:23 Craton wrote:
I fondly remember the time where 90%+ of my games didn't contain Kat and Ezreal.


I don't mind Kat. She is fun, ish.

Playing against Kat is about on par with playing against Yorick.

On September 30 2012 13:04 Frolossus wrote:
does anyone have general advice for ranked 5s roughly around 14-1500 range where you start getting matched with 2k elo teams every other game and it feels like you just get outplayed every step of the game?

or i guess how would you try to play a game in which all of the enemy team are significantly better than your own?

Coordination and group movement. The thing most 5's teams do is play everything like it's solo queue, rather than taking advantage of superior ward knowledge, coordinated 3 and 4 man gank/dives, bush camping, etc.

Instead of trying to win your lanes individually or with the occasional jungle gank, make a team effort out of it. Set up objectives and shit.
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Glaceau
Profile Joined February 2012
Wales333 Posts
September 30 2012 04:14 GMT
#956
On September 30 2012 13:04 Frolossus wrote:
does anyone have general advice for ranked 5s roughly around 14-1500 range where you start getting matched with 2k elo teams every other game and it feels like you just get outplayed every step of the game?

or i guess how would you try to play a game in which all of the enemy team are significantly better than your own?


planning ahead at champ select

1) maybe they have a good duelist champ top or something, you put 2v1 top and pick some one not dependent on farm to 1v2 bot

2) strong early ganker with easy to gank lanes comp

3) invading smartly to start with an advantage

4) mastering gay champs like ap teemo, rengar, eve, etc that are hard to deal with regardless of skill level
Cmon, swing it
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 30 2012 04:18 GMT
#957
putting 2v1 top without knowing what youre doing can backfire really easily though
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
September 30 2012 04:41 GMT
#958
On September 30 2012 13:04 Frolossus wrote:
does anyone have general advice for ranked 5s roughly around 14-1500 range where you start getting matched with 2k elo teams every other game and it feels like you just get outplayed every step of the game?

or i guess how would you try to play a game in which all of the enemy team are significantly better than your own?


If you're outclassed, you're outclassed. You pretty much just have to play to the best of your ability and try to win. That's really all there is to it. You can't cheese people in LoL like you can in SC2; there's no secret strategy that can take people by surprise enough to win the game outright. You can do stuff like send AD mid, AP top, and some bruiser kill lane bot, but if they're all better players they're going to win the lanes anyway. Your best bet is to just practice practice practice and get better.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 30 2012 04:43 GMT
#959
On September 30 2012 13:41 Perplex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 13:04 Frolossus wrote:
does anyone have general advice for ranked 5s roughly around 14-1500 range where you start getting matched with 2k elo teams every other game and it feels like you just get outplayed every step of the game?

or i guess how would you try to play a game in which all of the enemy team are significantly better than your own?


If you're outclassed, you're outclassed. You pretty much just have to play to the best of your ability and try to win. That's really all there is to it. You can't cheese people in LoL like you can in SC2; there's no secret strategy that can take people by surprise enough to win the game outright. You can do stuff like send AD mid, AP top, and some bruiser kill lane bot, but if they're all better players they're going to win the lanes anyway. Your best bet is to just practice practice practice and get better.


Well, you might win the lanes, but if they just better they probably going to just win anyways.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 30 2012 04:54 GMT
#960
You could also look them up on lolking and dodge.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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