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[ESL] EU Challenge Circuit: Poland Discussion

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JBright
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Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 22:35:31
July 26 2012 17:45 GMT
#1
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European Challenger Circuit: Poland finals


Streams:
Official Riot Portal
ESL Stream on ESL.tv

Casters:
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Joe Miller
Jatt
Jaws
Deman
Zenon


Prize Pool:
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Total of $40,000
1st Place - $15,000
2nd Place - $10,000
3rd Place - $5,000
4th Place - $2,800
5-6th Place - $2,000
7-8th Place - $1,600

Season 2 Circuit Points


Games played on the Jayce Patch

Teams:
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Group A
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[image loading] Curse.EU
[image loading] MYM
[image loading] SK
[image loading] Team Acer Poland


Group B
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[image loading] CLG.eu
[image loading] Elohell.net
[image loading] Moscow Five
[image loading] x6tence


Format
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Saturday, Jul 28 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

Saturday - Group A
[image loading] MYM      vs      Acer [image loading]
[image loading] Curse.EU      vs      SK Gaming [image loading]
[image loading] MYM      vs      SK Gaming [image loading]
[image loading] Curse.EU      vs      Acer [image loading]
[image loading] Curse.EU      vs      MYM [image loading]
[image loading] SK Gaming      vs      Acer [image loading]


09:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group A
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Game 1 - MYM vs Acer
MYM vs. Acer
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Bans:
Galio        Urgot
Sona        Malphite
Karthus        Nunu

Picks:
Kennen              Corki / Shen
Morgana / Alistar        Shyvana / Orianna
Graves / Amumu        Janna


Game 2 - Curse.EU vs SK
SK vs. Curse.EU
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Bans:
Karthus        Shen
Kayle        Urgot
Morgana        Malphite

Picks:
Nunu              Alistar / Ahri
Gragas / Corki        Taric / Ezreal
Riven / Soraka        Irelia


Game 3 - MYM vs SK
Not Streamed
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Bans:
Ban        Ban
Ban        Ban
Ban        Ban

Picks:
Pick              Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick        Pick / Pick
Picki / Pick        Pick


Game 4 - Curse.eu vs Acer
Curse.eu vs. Acer
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Bans:
Rumble        Shyvana
Shen        Malphite
Yorick        Urgot

Picks:
Alistar              Orianna / Jax
Ezreal / Nunu        Taric / Graves
Vlad / Morg        Lee Sin


Game 5 - Curse.EU vs MYM
Not Streamed
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Bans:
Ban        Ban
Ban        Ban
Ban        Ban

Picks:
Pick              Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick        Pick / Pick
Picki / Pick        Pick


Game 6 - SK vs Acer
SK vs. Acer
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Bans:
Orianna        Gragas
Karthus        Urgot
Kayle        Malphite

Picks:
Nunu              Vlad / Corki
Maokai / Yorick        Alistar / Kennen
Anivia / Kog        Shyvana


Saturday - Group B
[image loading] CLG.EU      vs      x6 [image loading]
[image loading] M5      vs      EloHell [image loading]
[image loading] M5      vs      CLG.EU [image loading]
[image loading] x6      vs      EloHell [image loading]
[image loading] M5      vs      x6 [image loading]
[image loading] CLG.EU      vs      EloHell [image loading]


13:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group B
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Game 1 - CLG.eu vs x6tence
CLG.eu vs. x6tence
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Bans:
Vlad        Urgot
Kassadin        Anivia
Irelia        Malphite

Picks:
Alistar              Nocturne / Shen
Karthus / Leona        Kennen / Ahri
Rumble / Corki        Janna


Game 2 - Moscow 5 vs Elohell
M5 vs. Elohell
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Bans:
Gragas        Lee Sin
Nocturne        Zilean
Malphite        Shen

Picks:
Urgot              Corki / Soraka
Shyvana / Orianna        Maokai / Ahri
Sona / Jax        Darius


Game 3 - Moscow 5 vs CLG.eu
CLG.eu vs. M5
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Bans:
Yorick        Maokai
Shen        Anivia
Ryze        Urgot

Picks:
Alistar              Nunu / Kog
Malphite / Ezreal        Shyvana / Ahri
Karthus / Rumble        Gangplank


Game 4 - x6tence vs Elohell
Not Streamed
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Bans:
Ban        Ban
Ban        Ban
Ban        Ban

Picks:
Pick              Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick        Pick / Pick
Picki / Pick        Pick


Game 5 - Moscow 5 vs x6tence
Not Streamed
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Bans:
Ban        Ban
Ban        Ban
Ban        Ban

Picks:
Pick              Pick / Pick
Pick / Pick        Pick / Pick
Picki / Pick        Pick


Game 6 - CLG.eu vs Elohell
CLG.eu vs. Elohell
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Bans:
Shen        Anivia
Gragas        Urgot
Malphite        Irelia

Picks:
Irelia              Maokai / Taric
Ezreal / Rumble        Graves / Lee Sin
Karthus / Leona        Fiddlesticks


Results
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Group A:
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MYM - Acer
Curse.EU - SK
MYM - SK
Curse.EU - Acer
Curse.EU - MYM
SK - Acer


Group B:
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CLG.eu - x6tence
M5 - Elohell
M5 - CLG.eu
x6tence - Elohell
M5 - x6tence
CLG.eu - Elohell


Overall Standing
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Group A:
1. Curse.eu 2-1
2. SK Gaming 2-1
3. MYM        1-2
4. Team Acer 1-2

Curse.eu and SK Gaming make it to the playoff stage.

Group B:
1. CLG.eu 3-0
2. Moscow Five 2-1
3. Elohell.net 1-2
4. x6tence 0-3

CLG.eu and M5 make it to the playoff stage.




Sunday, Jul 29 8:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


08:00 GMT (+00:00) - Semifinals 1
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Curse.EU vs Moscow Five

Game 1
Curse.eu vs. M5
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Bans:
Yorick        Maokai
Shen        Malphite
Shyvana        Urgot

Picks:
Alistar              Ashe / Sona
Ezreal / Taric        Vladimir / Kennen
Kayle / Karthus        Udyr


Game 2
M5 vs. Curse.eu
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Bans:
Malphite        Yorick
Maokai        Urgot
Karthus        Shyvana

Picks:
Sona              Nunu / Orianna
Udyr / Jax        Vladimir / Corki
Ezreal / Zilean        Soraka


Game 3
Curse.eu vs. M5
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Not needed.



10:00 GMT (+00:00) - Semifinals 2
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CLG.eu vs SK

Game 1
CLG.eu vs. SK
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Bans:
Gragas        Karthus
Yorick        Urgot
Kassadin        Rumble

Picks:
Alistar              Nunu / Malphite
Leona / Ezreal        Kog'Maw / Morgana
Olaf / Anivia        Jax


Game 2
SK Gaming vs. CLG.EU
Bans:
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Karthus        Maokai
Rumble        Malphite
Urgot        Urgot

Picks:
Nunu              Koggles / Alistar
Nyaahri / Meowkai        Sorara / Shen
Corki / Irelia        FroggAnivia


Game 3
CLG.EU vs. SK Gaming
Bans:
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Jax        Karthus
Yorick        Rumble
Kassadin        Urgot

Picks:
Malphite              Nunu / Koggles
Leona / Corki        Anivia (!) / Meowkai
Shen / Nyaaahri        Udyr



12:00 GMT (+00:00) - 3rd Place Match
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Curse.eu vs SK

Game 1
Crs.EU vs. SK Gaming
Bans:
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Yorick        Karthus
Malphite        Urgot
Shen        Alistar

Picks:
Nunu              Ezrael / Meowkai
Lee Sin / VAYNE        Sona / CassiOPeia (!!)
Annie (You smell like burning!) / Jax        RumbleInDaJangle


Game 2
SK vs. Curse.eu
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Bans:
Karthus        Urgot
Alistar        Malphite
Kayle        Shen

Picks:
Nunu              Pick / Pick
Morgana / Yorick        Pick / Pick
Maokai / Kog'Maw        Pick


Game 3
Curse.eu vs. SK
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Bans:
Yorick        Karthus
Kog'Maw        Urgot
Nunu        Malphite

Picks:
Alistar              Janna / Shen
Corki / Soraka        Gragas / Ashe
Ahri / Shyvana        Irelia



14:00 GMT (+00:00) - Finals
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Moscow 5 vs CLG.eu

Game 1
CLG.eu vs. M5
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Bans:
Jax        Urgot
Yorick        Maokai
Vladimir        Alistar

Picks:
Malphite              Shen / Sona
Rumble / Ezreal        Nocturne / Corki
Karthus / Leona        Kassadin


Game 2
M5 vs. CLG.eu
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Bans:
Maokai        Urgot
Rumble        Yorick
Alistar        Kassadin

Picks:
Shen              Malphite / Kog'Maw
Nunu / Ashe        Soraka / Nautilus
Gragas / Udyr        Anivia


Game 3
CLG.eu vs. M5
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Not needed.


Results
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Semifinals 1
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Curse.EU - M5
Curse.EU - M5
Curse.EU 0:2 M5


Semifinals 2
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CLG.eu - SK
CLG.eu - SK
CLG.eu - SK
CLG.eu 2:1 SK


3rd Place Match
+ Show Spoiler +
Curse.eu - SK
Curse.eu - SK
Curse.eu - SK
Curse.eu 1:2 SK

SK wins 3rd place at ECC: Poland!


Grand Finals
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M5 - CLG.eu
M5 - CLG.eu
M5 2:0 CLG.eu

M5 is the winner of ECC: Poland!



VODs
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Day 1
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MYM vs Acer and Curse.eu vs SK - http://www.twitch.tv/esl_poland/b/326529088
Curse.eu vs Acer and SK vs Acer - Part 1, Part 2
CLG vs OW (x6), Elohell vs M5, M5 vs CLG.eu, CLG.eu vs Elohell, and M5 vs OW - http://www.twitch.tv/esl_poland/b/326553446


Day 2
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On July 31 2012 06:47 Slusher wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/esl_poland/b/326645480

skip to 9:08:00 for grand finals picks/bans.




Format diagram by MoonBear
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 26 2012 18:01 GMT
#2
Scumbag x6 fails to fund their 5 players to Poland.

Good guy Oce foots the bill and pays for his fellow Spaniards to go.

On occasion, we see the good side of the LoL community.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
July 26 2012 18:10 GMT
#3
I think the group stage will be most likely not really exciting group a will be most likely acer/curse in which order group b clg/m5 (x6tence might do an upset). But unless those teams screw up hard/clg might be jetlagged I dont see it change
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 27 2012 01:17 GMT
#4
Group + single slim <3
Carrilord has arrived.
everlastedz
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore6 Posts
July 28 2012 08:54 GMT
#5
http://pl.twitch.tv/esl_poland just throwing it out here. probably gonna be late thou, seeing that the stream isnt set up at yet.
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
July 28 2012 09:05 GMT
#6
Carmac trolling Joe. lol
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 28 2012 09:10 GMT
#7
how did oce get the money lol
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
July 28 2012 09:12 GMT
#8
With his streaming i guess, its crazy how much money he makes from it
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
July 28 2012 10:31 GMT
#9
Anyone knows link to Polish stream? Is there any? :S
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 28 2012 10:51 GMT
#10
Lol that SK Crs fight in the mid, irelia and ahri dive oce's gragas, take him down then get chased 4v2 down, meanwhile malunoo camping bot lane brush with their bot lane, but SK bot lane wasn't even in that side of the map >_> propa communication
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 28 2012 10:52 GMT
#11
SK playing a terrible nunu, which is good because a well played nunu would crush the format right now. You can tell this because he's falling behind farm from cow (and this shouldn't happen even with his base q doing only 400). He was also afraid of invading red. He's also building wrong. He lost his oracles because he didn't have the right movement speed from runes/masteries.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 11:00:35
July 28 2012 10:58 GMT
#12
On July 28 2012 19:52 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
SK playing a terrible nunu, which is good because a well played nunu would crush the format right now. You can tell this because he's falling behind farm from cow (and this shouldn't happen even with his base q doing only 400). He was also afraid of invading red. He's also building wrong. He lost his oracles because he didn't have the right movement speed from runes/masteries.

Its Araneae, he is only in there because hes Spanish. In contrast Malunoo is one of the best junglers in the game.

But this was surprisingly close this far. Extinkt was not doing very good. But luckily for Curse the typical SK throw came into play.

edit: And now curse overextends lol. Quite the sloppy game.
Off-season = best season
bunberry
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia96 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 11:22:06
July 28 2012 11:21 GMT
#13
SK vs. Curse... yellowstar was SK's best player, imo he played really well while Araneae on nunu felt kind of useless, nunu ganks are very meh and he barely counterjungled so why pick nunu? end game teamfights nunu did nothing but slow one person and using ult will make him a sitting duck. SK ended up doing more mistakes than Curse even though some questionable plays from extinkt on Ahri brought SK in the lead a couple of times. All in all an exciting game because it wasn't the usual snowball, very back and forth.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
July 28 2012 11:26 GMT
#14
Enjoying my series of powerpoint slides so far, why does Twitch always fuck over Australians.

Ah well, hopefully it'll be all fixed for when CLG.eu crushes everyone, looking forward to it.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 28 2012 12:43 GMT
#15
The way mouz is playing compared to sk right now must feel good for candy and dedryon
Carrilord has arrived.
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
July 28 2012 13:30 GMT
#16
interesting my prediction seems to be wrong sk will most likely win this game acer seems to be not that comfortable playing offline/sk plays surprisingly well offline
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
July 28 2012 13:33 GMT
#17
wow, Acer just got destroyed by SK, that was a massive faceroll
bunberry
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia96 Posts
July 28 2012 13:39 GMT
#18
On July 28 2012 22:30 Ente wrote:
interesting my prediction seems to be wrong sk will most likely win this game acer seems to be not that comfortable playing offline/sk plays surprisingly well offline

SK+Yellowstar(Not sure about Ara) have tons of offline experience while I believe this is Acers first lan? and Nyph and Kevin always play solidly imo, while Ocelote seems to play WAY better offline and Yellowstar as I mentioned before is a beast, he played so well... MVP for their team.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 13:58:04
July 28 2012 13:50 GMT
#19
Yeah SK was surprsingly good. They already did well against Curse and now even better against Acer.

Still the teams in group B will be happy if they make the first place and get to play against SK.

On July 28 2012 21:43 Slusher wrote:
The way mouz is playing compared to sk right now must feel good for candy and dedryon

I bet CandyPanda is extremely envious of SK going to IEM while he is not.
I still remember how spiteful that guy was towards CLG.eu when they missed out on IEM because of their sponsor change.
Off-season = best season
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
July 28 2012 13:54 GMT
#20
Aranae used to be in sk a long time ago so he has quite some experience. Most of Acers team played at DH but yes their experience isnt that great. About sk I played vs them at 4pl last week and there they didnt play well at all and we won it quite easily but that seemed to be just a bad day for most of them.
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3809 Posts
July 28 2012 14:46 GMT
#21
Good LORD twitch TV is absolutely AWFUL I can't watch more then 2 seconds without it buffering at 240p
: o )
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
July 28 2012 14:50 GMT
#22
CLG is the fan-favourite, at least there, in Poland.
"My spoon is too big."
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 14:56 GMT
#23
Hearing the commentators talk about Leona, shows that they didn't watch the OGN games earlier this week.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
July 28 2012 15:22 GMT
#24
oh man this one commentator seems so biased, only talking about CLG eu...
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
July 28 2012 15:31 GMT
#25
On July 29 2012 00:22 GoSuChicken wrote:
oh man this one commentator seems so biased, only talking about CLG eu...


Like 95% of the audience is cheering for CLG.eu, commentators can be as biased as they want.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 28 2012 15:32 GMT
#26
On July 29 2012 00:31 TheLink wrote:
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On July 29 2012 00:22 GoSuChicken wrote:
oh man this one commentator seems so biased, only talking about CLG eu...


Like 95% of the audience is cheering for CLG.eu, commentators can be as biased as they want.

Well they were not rooting for them, they were talking about them. And its a fact that they are the team to talk about at the moment.
Off-season = best season
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 15:39 GMT
#27
CLG.eu hwaiting!~
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
July 28 2012 15:46 GMT
#28
Can anyone tell me when the next game starts please?
-
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 28 2012 15:47 GMT
#29
Alex sounded very confident that M5 will be able to come ahead of CLG this time.
Off-season = best season
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 15:52 GMT
#30
Looking very much forward to M5 vs. CLG.eu... Crazy aggression vs. Calculated cruelty
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 28 2012 16:01 GMT
#31
twitch eu GG

promises there will be better service, so far been only talk.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
July 28 2012 16:02 GMT
#32
is it M5 vs CLG.EU yet?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 16:03 GMT
#33
M5 vs EloHell.net (Shushei's team) up atm.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 16:05 GMT
#34
Big move by Kubon, Darius takes down Jax with Ignite, Execute, FlashAuto, burn.

I always have problems gauging how much damage I can do in top lane...

First Blood~
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BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 16:05 GMT
#35
Interesting... It looked like as if Maokais twisted advance blocks ahris charm... or did the charm not connect? Can someone confirm?
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 16:06 GMT
#36
DiamondShy reverts to his old ways, tries to steal EH's red. But EH has learned the special tactics of M5 and 3 man converges. Shy has to ulti into Baron cove to get away.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 16:09 GMT
#37
Riot continues to improve Spec mode little by little. Baron and Dragon timers are incorporated at the top of the bar now for the audience and casters' benefit.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 28 2012 16:14 GMT
#38
Is that Riot's thing, or is it just an overlay? I'm 100% sure that dragon timer wasn't updating in a match earlier.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 16:15 GMT
#39
M5 displays their team fight superiority at Dragon. Despite not being able to secure Dragon, M5 kills 3 of EH over a prolonged skirmish.

Kills even at 3-3.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 16:16 GMT
#40
On July 29 2012 01:14 daemir wrote:
Is that Riot's thing, or is it just an overlay? I'm 100% sure that dragon timer wasn't updating in a match earlier.


ok tbh, it could just be an overlay. ;_;
Looks nice though! Should be tourney standard.
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Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
July 28 2012 16:16 GMT
#41
On July 29 2012 01:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Riot continues to improve Spec mode little by little. Baron and Dragon timers are incorporated at the top of the bar now for the audience and casters' benefit.


I think that's being manually updated, but yeah, a very nice innovation
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 16:20 GMT
#42
Urgot and Sona continues to bash on Corki/Soraka. Double CC Ultimates is turning into a double kill npnp.
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Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
July 28 2012 16:20 GMT
#43
GosuPepper's Sona is really strong.
Also they should probably not let Genja get Urgot T_T
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 16:23:05
July 28 2012 16:20 GMT
#44
GosuPepper has straight up stolen 36 cs now. Is that planned or is he just a dick?

I get the feeling Nhat is the only support on Earth who enjoys his role. Xpecial, Krepo, Pepper, Elementz, Chauster... all of them wish they played a carry role, usually mid.

EDIT: Maokai ult OP. :D
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 16:25 GMT
#45
M5 says thanks for the Baron.
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GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 16:27:29
July 28 2012 16:26 GMT
#46
Diamond #1 Smiter eu
wow and Alex #1 farmer eu 100 cs ahead of everyone.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 16:27 GMT
#47
EloHell had a good fight and then they didn't chase and didn't take baron... come back 2 minutes later and fight in the baron pit... why?
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 16:27 GMT
#48
@TheLink: I'm a believer that Supports should get anywhere from 25-50 CS for the duration of the game. This isn't including opportunities where the support can go into a pushed lane and get farm unassisted. Giving your support 10-20 CS in the first 15 minutes means faster GP10 items and obviously more wards.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 16:28 GMT
#49
On July 29 2012 01:27 BlueSpace wrote:
EloHell had a good fight and then they didn't chase and didn't take baron... come back 2 minutes later and fight in the baron pit... why?


Indecision by the neophyte team.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 16:30 GMT
#50
What do you do when you have the better team fighting potential?

Fight longer. Stack them GAs, M5 style.

3 GAs already for M5
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BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 16:32 GMT
#51
On July 29 2012 01:30 NeoIllusions wrote:
What do you do when you have the better team fighting potential?

Fight longer. Stack them GAs, M5 style.

3 GAs already for M5

Well it helps when you tend to overextend... Please press continue
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 16:34 GMT
#52
GenjaGot, KotH
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 16:35:21
July 28 2012 16:35 GMT
#53
i feel GA is going to be nerfed
Fuzzmosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada752 Posts
July 28 2012 16:35 GMT
#54
How many guardian angels does it take to get to an Ace?
I'm From Canada, so they think I'm slow, eh?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 16:37 GMT
#55
Nice cleanup by M5 despite losing their two main carries.

See Hero, Kill Hero, good bye Shushei. Good bye Throne.

M5 wins.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 28 2012 16:37 GMT
#56
Divine Protection too stronk
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 16:39 GMT
#57
I actually think that EloHell did quite well in the teamfights, despite the gold difference. They could have also turned it around with a better follow through.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 28 2012 16:41 GMT
#58
The interviewer always totally clueless about what to ask. The commentators should give him some tips.
Off-season = best season
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
July 28 2012 16:41 GMT
#59
Next match should be pretty epic.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 28 2012 16:42 GMT
#60
On July 29 2012 01:39 BlueSpace wrote:
I actually think that EloHell did quite well in the teamfights, despite the gold difference. They could have also turned it around with a better follow through.

this
when i saw 4 GA i thought game is over but the tf was quite close
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
July 28 2012 16:52 GMT
#61
Bit of a delay with M5 atm. While we're waiting: CLGeu vs M5, what is going to happen?
My modesty is awesome.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 16:56:10
July 28 2012 16:55 GMT
#62
LI7 is going to crumble in early game and M5 will finish the match in 23 minutes.

..that was..cannot be unseen
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 16:56 GMT
#63
On July 29 2012 01:55 daemir wrote:
LI7 is going to crumble in early game and M5 will finish the match in 23 minutes.


diaf
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 28 2012 16:56 GMT
#64
On July 29 2012 01:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 01:55 daemir wrote:
LI7 is going to crumble in early game and M5 will finish the match in 23 minutes.


diaf


bring the matches
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
July 28 2012 16:58 GMT
#65
Ready to rock, as Alex puts it.
My modesty is awesome.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 16:58 GMT
#66
HAI ZENON :3
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 28 2012 16:58 GMT
#67
this twitch...back to 90s and slideshows fml

in froggen they trust
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:02:42
July 28 2012 17:00 GMT
#68
CLG EU 2-1 M5 imo.

Edit: That fan is getting annoying lol.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Fuzzmosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada752 Posts
July 28 2012 17:00 GMT
#69
Jatt and Daniel Klien look awfully similar....
I'm From Canada, so they think I'm slow, eh?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:03:23
July 28 2012 17:02 GMT
#70
I disagree with Zenons statement about M5 not knowing which strats CLG have added in Korea. There really is not that much new, and its pretty much common knowledge what champions CLG like to play.
Off-season = best season
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 28 2012 17:04 GMT
#71
I hope Krepo takes Leona, Cow for Snoopeh.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:06 GMT
#72
On July 29 2012 02:02 Redox wrote:
I disagree with Zenons statement about M5 not knowing which strats CLG have added in Korea. There really is not that much new, and its pretty much common knowledge what champions CLG like to play.


I think it's somewhere in between those two statements.

It surprises me fairly often at how little teams do to scout out their competition, especially in an offline tournament. Granted, that's not to say that M5 didn't watch how CLG.eu won their OGN games.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:09 GMT
#73
Darien on GP. Are we going to see some 1v2 action?
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 28 2012 17:09 GMT
#74
M5 running close to 0 hard cc comp again, I don't like that GP pick.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 28 2012 17:10 GMT
#75
On July 29 2012 02:04 daemir wrote:
I hope Krepo takes Leona, Cow for Snoopeh.

Thats what I was hoping too. Would have also meant Malph for Wickd. Tbh I am quite surprised by what they have done now.
Off-season = best season
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
July 28 2012 17:10 GMT
#76
So this kog gonna go zooooooooom with the speed buffs. Then M5 realises they're against a malphite and their kog doesn't mean shit.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
July 28 2012 17:11 GMT
#77
Rumble #1
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:13:45
July 28 2012 17:12 GMT
#78
O wow this lane swap, how's rumble gonna fare. GP if gets blue can at least shoot stuff

this cameraman missing everything
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:12 GMT
#79
pete gave Krepo the big Golem. What a chap.
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Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
July 28 2012 17:13 GMT
#80
Welp, bot lane is effed
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:14 GMT
#81
M5 totally not going to plan...

FB on Darien. Ezreal says sup.

M5 tries to bumrush Malphite's jungle with Shy/Nunu but Malph is patient and smite steals his own Blue back.
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Pinith
Profile Joined September 2010
651 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:16:02
July 28 2012 17:14 GMT
#82
Casters missed a nice smite from snoopeh keeping his blue, wasted a lot of time for M5.

I don't think switching top and bot works well vs CLG.EU's comp. Rumble is at least as safe as GP farming 1v2, and ezreal/alistar have a lot more kill potential
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 17:14 GMT
#83
Ez with blue buff... Lots of pain incoming...
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:15 GMT
#84
And I just realized. Darien went his patented Blue first GP for 1v2 lane.

Now Ezreal has that Blue. hue
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 28 2012 17:15 GMT
#85
Cooperation from twitch and this cameraman ensures I don't see any action.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:17:33
July 28 2012 17:15 GMT
#86
On July 29 2012 02:14 Pinith wrote:
Casters missed a nice smite from snoopeh keeping his blue, wasted a lot of time for M5


Missed smite, but got first blood. Both exciting, but first blood worth more. That is people value showing kills more than showing a buff steal. You did see that whoever is doing that spectating work did go back and show that malphite had the blue.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:16 GMT
#87
Darien's not going to have a good day. 3 man bot. Dead pirate.

Froggen slightly ahead of Alex in CS.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:18 GMT
#88
hilar bullies dem CLG are.

7 min in. Ezreal has fed 3-0 on GP.
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Kisra
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom466 Posts
July 28 2012 17:18 GMT
#89
Well gangplank won't be worth any gold soon. That's some consolation for M5.
:D
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 28 2012 17:18 GMT
#90
Hahahaha, darien getting shat on.
liftlift > tsm
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
July 28 2012 17:18 GMT
#91
Malphite standing in a brush not doing anything for seconds that seem eternal. Suddenly: FIRST BLOOD! Confused casters scroll to the bottom lane. Gangplank lies in his own blood underneath his tower. The support claims that Ezreal did the bloody deed, but unfortunately there are no witnesses to this dire crime...

A minute later, on midlane: Malphite emerges from the underwoods again, blessed by the Ancient Golems. Astonished how he managed to wrestle this blessing from three opposing champions, people went to ask him. Unfortunately, a stone cannot talk. Tonight, no one will sing the song of how Malphite outwitted his enemies.


Srsly. WTF casters.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 17:18 GMT
#92
As I said earlier: calculated cruelty... Hey gp you're having a bad day, why don't we kill you over and over again.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 28 2012 17:18 GMT
#93
Still have hard time figuring out why Darien TPed on a minion instead of the tower in the first blood. Just..dumb
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 28 2012 17:19 GMT
#94
On July 29 2012 02:06 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 02:02 Redox wrote:
I disagree with Zenons statement about M5 not knowing which strats CLG have added in Korea. There really is not that much new, and its pretty much common knowledge what champions CLG like to play.


I think it's somewhere in between those two statements.

It surprises me fairly often at how little teams do to scout out their competition, especially in an offline tournament. Granted, that's not to say that M5 didn't watch how CLG.eu won their OGN games.

It is actually quite interesting when in post-game interviews teams choose to reveal what kind of preparation they put in. Most teams tend to prepare much more against other teams from the same region (aka NA v NA, EU v EU) but it starts to drop off rapidly beyond that. Part of this is probably due to the fact you can't check someone's match history on a different Server Region. But it's also harder to watch someone else's stream if they don't stream in your timezone.

The most egregious example of a team completely overlooking another team's practise in my opinion has still got to be the first round if IPL4. aAa played against CLG and let CLG take Shen first pick and lost as a result of that. Post-game interview they revealed that they spent all their preparation time on NA teams exclusively on CLG and thought they would be extremely prepared. From watching past CLG games, they thought they could handle HSGG Shen in lane, and then in his splitpush. However, they neglected to realise that in between IEM and IPL4 that HSGG had made major revisions to his Shen build which meant none of their counters worked. They also didn't watch his stream so they didn't see his new build in action. So they lost really badly.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:21 GMT
#95
GP dies a 5th time.

But nice 4 man gank on top means death for Rumble and Malphite. M5 not letting go yet.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:22 GMT
#96
And we hit 100K viewers for day 1 of ECC. hi5 gaiz

@Moon: ily~
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BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 17:24 GMT
#97
GP ultimate troll... kill steals so that he can feed more efficiently
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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
July 28 2012 17:25 GMT
#98
I love those coordinated attacks from M5. You know, attacking on all three lanes at the same time to completely fuck up enemy communication and coordination.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:26 GMT
#99
I think I should try out Guise on Rumble later today.
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Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
July 28 2012 17:27 GMT
#100
M5 coming back but Karthus is already massive
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 28 2012 17:28 GMT
#101
Man, not a huge fan of the casting.
liftlift > tsm
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:28:44
July 28 2012 17:28 GMT
#102
lol, negative synergy between guise and abyssal apparently.... =/
gj casters.
I like the mass-diving plan from m5. CLG needs more wards on the map.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 28 2012 17:29 GMT
#103
my god darien alex comboing on wickd, see hero kill hero, holy fak
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 28 2012 17:29 GMT
#104
M5 got the dragon too. Lost oracles though. Plus 4 for 2.
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
July 28 2012 17:29 GMT
#105
Wow brilliant fight from M5
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
July 28 2012 17:30 GMT
#106
yellowpete's positioning was so bad :/
"My spoon is too big."
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 28 2012 17:31 GMT
#107
M5 is showing really great play here. They know exactly what targets they want to be killing, and the moment their target disengages they switch correctly to the next guy on the hit list. Karthus also got zoned rather hard by the Nunu ult too. And with all the diving on CLG, in order to peel everything off Ezrael it meant that Koggles got free dps. CLG with the bad positioning only made it worse for them.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
July 28 2012 17:32 GMT
#108
The British dude slurs his words as if hes drunk as fuck. The German (?) guy knows jack shit about the game. WHY ESL, WHY!
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 28 2012 17:33 GMT
#109
Darien was raped hard early game, has now more gold than wickd...
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:34 GMT
#110
ahahaha, CLG was trying so hard to let Froggen get that penta but no avail.
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Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
July 28 2012 17:34 GMT
#111
Welp that was a disaster from M5. God why
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 28 2012 17:34 GMT
#112
Skumbag Snoopeh
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
July 28 2012 17:35 GMT
#113
So... just deleted my long post about how Froggen is rich and will carry harder than kog because malph will shut him down.

Now its a moot point because Froggen has 10 kills, 300 farm and GP10. >_<
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
juked
Profile Joined May 2010
United States691 Posts
July 28 2012 17:35 GMT
#114
scumbag snoopy lol.. he had that one easily
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 28 2012 17:35 GMT
#115
On July 29 2012 02:32 Celial wrote:
The British dude slurs his words as if hes drunk as fuck. The German (?) guy knows jack shit about the game. WHY ESL, WHY!

Both have been casting for quite a while. The British guy is Joe Miller, who's a former professional caster from Quake and Counterstrike. The German is Zenon, a Riot Employee (German Community Manager) and casts for ESL Germany in German.

I think the biggest problem for casters currently is that they can't focus on learning recent trends in the game and casting full time. Nearly every single caster for LoL atm has to hold down a full time job and casts on the side.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
July 28 2012 17:35 GMT
#116
Oh wow, Scumbag snoopeh. Lets set the counter to see how long it takes before thats posted on reddit.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:35 GMT
#117
On July 29 2012 02:33 daemir wrote:
Darien was raped hard early game, has now more gold than wickd...


Do not comprehend.

Why can't I ever bounce back like that after having a god awful start...
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BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 17:35 GMT
#118
Karthus + baron pit = death trap...
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:37:28
July 28 2012 17:36 GMT
#119
On July 29 2012 02:33 daemir wrote:
Darien was raped hard early game, has now more gold than wickd...


It's because clg.eu took down that bottom tower really early, so they could roam, but it allowed darien to farm bot without pressure. Also, cannot forget dragons, of which they have taken all of them. Now, they've gotten baron. Finally, pirate ult assists so strong.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 28 2012 17:36 GMT
#120
CLG are 4 towers up, and have 6 more kills but surprisingly they're only about 2k gold ahead. M5 is doing very well to keep in terms of gold at least.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
July 28 2012 17:37 GMT
#121
Can't stop thinking that Zenon sounds like Khaldor
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 28 2012 17:37 GMT
#122
M5 have terrible judgement when they aren't ahead. Also M5 have almost no hard cc for team fights.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:38 GMT
#123
Insane communication.

I had no idea why Krepo Shurelya'd and chase after a Kog by himself but he wanted to Headbutt/Pulv Kog to low enough where Froggen could Req for the kill.
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 28 2012 17:38 GMT
#124
Three of M5 walk into the top tribush right into Malph+Ali CC and lots of AoE. Ouch.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 17:39 GMT
#125
On July 29 2012 02:37 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
M5 have terrible judgement when they aren't ahead. Also M5 have almost no hard cc for team fights.

I think their judgement stays the same, but once they are behind, the other team can punish them for their aggressive playstyle and it makes them look bad.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:40 GMT
#126
ahaha, CLG's favorite nom: Darien. 5 man'd np
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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:41:02
July 28 2012 17:40 GMT
#127
My god Froggen is a farming beast. Can't believe Darien was somewhat coming back though, I'd have ragequit lol.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:42:22
July 28 2012 17:41 GMT
#128
As well as Pete did feeding on Darien, late game, Froggen back in the driver seat.

30 min: 270 CS, Deathcap, RoA, DFG, 12-1-2
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 28 2012 17:42 GMT
#129
Gold difference, under 2k. wtf
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 28 2012 17:43 GMT
#130
Nunu with zekes. Nunu is one of the few supports that actually needs real items. Compare him to cow's items.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
July 28 2012 17:43 GMT
#131
Why does m5 have so many chain vests and stacking armour vs a quad AP team and a stupidly fed Froggen?
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 28 2012 17:44 GMT
#132
Karthus going for Void Staff over Zhonyas. Hm. Still amazed how well M5 are doing trying to keep the gold difference as small as possible.

Re CC issue: CLG have the advantage by having Alistar from the get-go. It's why Ali is top ban material. TSM always keeps him banned, and CLG Ali gets a lot of respect ban in Korea. With Ali+someone else you can AoE CC-lock down a long time.

This is starting to be a repeat of Dreamhack. CLG take bot inhib, let minions push in, bait baron. Force the fight and take Baron.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 17:44 GMT
#133
On July 29 2012 02:43 TheLink wrote:
Why does m5 have so many chain vests and stacking armour vs a quad AP team and a stupidly fed Froggen?

You need chain vest for GA... just saying...
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 28 2012 17:46 GMT
#134
On July 29 2012 02:43 TheLink wrote:
Why does m5 have so many chain vests and stacking armour vs a quad AP team and a stupidly fed Froggen?

Froggen has a Void Staff already. Getting MR won't help much any more.

Really great play by CLG forcing M5 to split hard at Baron. Wickd suicided himself onto Koggles to force him to keep running. That let the rest of CLG get the dps on. M5 also failed to burst Ezrael only taking him to 10% before E'ing out and let him proceed to keep right-clicking for the rest of the fight too.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:53:02
July 28 2012 17:51 GMT
#135
Okay so that was good play overall from CLG, but really, Froggen is really doing so much for them. I wonder how CLG would do with another AP of good skill, but not froggen level :D

Edit: also lol Krepo
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 17:53 GMT
#136
We got lucky sounds much nicer than saying GP did a huge mistake.
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:55:41
July 28 2012 17:54 GMT
#137
RiotJaws: Krepo, when you guys start out the match did you think you'd face the TP Gangplank when you were picking your bot lane?
Krepo: We remember M5 running this strat half a year ago and then take a buff lvl 1. So that's why we warded. We also predicted the counterjungle. He tp-ed when I was lvl 2 right on top of me where I could Pulverise him and that let us get firstblood and snowball and win the early game. (Chiharu Note: M5 GP TP was first shown against TSM in the finals of IEM Kiev)
RiotJaws: You mentioned first blood being a turning point. But it always seemed like a close match. What was the big turning moment in your opinion?
Krepo: It was the late game. We had a good teamfight combo and they have a Koggles with no escape. The later the game goes, the better it gets. Malphite can just go in and shut him down. We just need to get our carries like Ezrael fed, freeze bot lane, and win.
RiotJaws: Good luck for the rest of the tournament.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Sicariidae
Profile Joined May 2011
50 Posts
July 28 2012 17:57 GMT
#138
Rumble should have been banned from the tournament. In his current state, he is ridiculously broken.

450 damage. 135% AP ratio. Or, in Danger Zone, 585 damage. 175% AP ratio. With a 6 second cooldown.

You can't argue any form of balance for Rumble, at the moment. Morello has admitted how much they screwed up and he is being patched as such. Just a shame we have to see him ruin this tournament.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:58 GMT
#139
Malphite picks UP, Kog picks DOWN.

Another reason why picks/bans so important. If you want to run Kog, ban the rock.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21584 Posts
July 28 2012 17:59 GMT
#140
Then the team that gos second just has to ban him or run the risk of him being picked.

The nature of the draft allowed them to not have to ban champions outright from play.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 18:02:05
July 28 2012 18:00 GMT
#141
On July 29 2012 02:51 Ziken wrote:
Okay so that was good play overall from CLG, but really, Froggen is really doing so much for them. I wonder how CLG would do with another AP of good skill, but not froggen level :D

Edit: also lol Krepo

Meh Froggen was not sticking out at all in the 3 games they won in Korea. Imo they would still do good with a different mid that can adapt to their general play style. The biggest strength of CLG is team cohesion / communication / team fights.
But yeah Froggen is insanely good of course, probably the best mid there is.
Off-season = best season
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 18:02:26
July 28 2012 18:02 GMT
#142
Those clips where they show the art being made always floors my jaw at how people are so artistically skilled.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 18:07:39
July 28 2012 18:06 GMT
#143
On July 29 2012 02:57 Sicariidae wrote:
Rumble should have been banned from the tournament. In his current state, he is ridiculously broken.

450 damage. 135% AP ratio. Or, in Danger Zone, 585 damage. 175% AP ratio. With a 6 second cooldown.

You can't argue any form of balance for Rumble, at the moment. Morello has admitted how much they screwed up and he is being patched as such. Just a shame we have to see him ruin this tournament.

Originally Rumble Q applied damage in inconsistent time intervals. So even if your flamethrower was over someone, it wasn't necessarily doing damage. So to compensate for that, the base damage had to be increased.

Now, his Q applies damage continuously and the AoE correctly corresponds to the fire animation. However, he still has his original damage numbers. So that's going to be changed next patch.

On July 29 2012 03:02 daemir wrote:
Those clips where they show the art being made always floors my jaw at how people are so artistically skilled.

Agreed! It takes me forever to make any images for TL. ^^;
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 18:06 GMT
#144
Considering how big LoL is internationally, working at Riot Games is a pretty sweet gig if you're a skilled artist. :O

Fame and well compensated.
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Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
July 28 2012 18:07 GMT
#145
I think m5 should make diamond and gosu play jungler/support champs who actually have some reliable kind of CC.
Picking kog early, and not even responding to the alistar+malphite with something like nautilus, leona or even janna is just asking for a loss.
"My spoon is too big."
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 18:10 GMT
#146
On July 29 2012 03:00 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 02:51 Ziken wrote:
Okay so that was good play overall from CLG, but really, Froggen is really doing so much for them. I wonder how CLG would do with another AP of good skill, but not froggen level :D

Edit: also lol Krepo

Meh Froggen was not sticking out at all in the 3 games they won in Korea. Imo they would still do good with a different mid that can adapt to their general play style. The biggest strength of CLG is team cohesion / communication / team fights.
But yeah Froggen is insanely good of course, probably the best mid there is.

I think a good example for that was when Krepo chased Kog so that he could headbutt/pulverize into Karthus R. Froggen is godly, but the team really helps him shine.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 18:13 GMT
#147
LoL is definitely a game where a strong team is greater than the sum of its parts.

Training is Korea is really elevating CLG's game (both NA and EU). I expect big things from them both come S2 Finals.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 18:16:58
July 28 2012 18:15 GMT
#148
I wish I didn't have to mute the stream every 30 minutes because they let Jatt back on air.

I do like this stage though.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 18:21 GMT
#149
Looks like Elohell v CLG.eu next
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 28 2012 18:30 GMT
#150
Fiddle in the middle lol. Dat Shushei, such a troll.
Off-season = best season
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 18:31 GMT
#151
huehue "here for fun" team
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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
July 28 2012 18:33 GMT
#152
Why not just pick Leblanc against Karth :/
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TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
July 28 2012 18:44 GMT
#153
Lee Sin is traditionally a pretty good counter to Rumble isn't he? This is just bug-fix/buff + Wickd skill winning the lane?
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 18:47 GMT
#154
yawn rape
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Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
July 28 2012 18:49 GMT
#155
dat flash pulv
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 28 2012 18:51 GMT
#156
On July 29 2012 03:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
huehue "here for fun" team

I doubt EloHell is having fun in this one lol.

But yeah, pretty disappointing what they pulled off here.
Off-season = best season
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 28 2012 18:53 GMT
#157
CLG eu, putting on a clinic.
liftlift > tsm
Pinith
Profile Joined September 2010
651 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 19:16:54
July 28 2012 19:16 GMT
#158
Sound guy fail for interviews
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
July 28 2012 19:40 GMT
#159
How much longer until the brackets start? And which teams are playing first?
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 22:24:58
July 28 2012 22:14 GMT
#160
On July 29 2012 03:00 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 02:51 Ziken wrote:
Okay so that was good play overall from CLG, but really, Froggen is really doing so much for them. I wonder how CLG would do with another AP of good skill, but not froggen level :D

Edit: also lol Krepo

Meh Froggen was not sticking out at all in the 3 games they won in Korea. Imo they would still do good with a different mid that can adapt to their general play style. The biggest strength of CLG is team cohesion / communication / team fights.
But yeah Froggen is insanely good of course, probably the best mid there is.


In OGN, CLGNA built their entire teamcomp around trying to shut down froggen, LGIM picked ahri to try and deal with froggen's karthus and neither was able to shut him down completely. As the game dragged on, froggen's ability to farm carried him back into the game and he still did absurd damage. In literally any game where froggen doesn't get shut down in the first 15 minutes, he'll get enough farm and kills to win lane, carry game.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
July 28 2012 22:31 GMT
#161
The thing is all lanes are very late game oriented. Froggen plays Morgana, Karthus, Anivia, Orianna and Ahri mainly. Ahri is the only one of those 3 that falls of a little lategame. What CLG all do is play passive and then center around clutch Krepo/Yellowpete play and good strategical movement. Bot is always super safe compared to most other teams and Snoppeh rarely ganks early. Their team is centered almost always around Froggen which makes him look amazing. M5 for example often center their team comp around Genja or Darien.

People look to much at KDA and CS. They focus froggen because he plays the champs that can be pressured while bot and top usually play safer picks that are harder to focus ganking on and Froggen is the center of their lategame play.

Alex ich is just as good as froggen but his rooster is more team oriented than Froggens carry oriented one (also diamonprox get more jungle than snoopeh). This is also seen in the difference in playstyle and plays m5 vs Clg do.


Froggen is really good but he is not miles ahead of other big star EU mids.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
July 28 2012 22:33 GMT
#162
Crush Froggen's spirit. Have first pick, don't ban Anivia, let Froggen think he can play Anivia, pick Anivia.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
July 28 2012 22:39 GMT
#163
That doesn't work.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
July 28 2012 22:56 GMT
#164
Froggen plays Morgana, Karthus, Anivia, Orianna and Ahri mainly. Ahri is the only one of those 3 that falls of a little lategame

This is not correct Morgana falls of way harder then ahri and lategame shes mainly usefull for her blackshield (she is still stronger then some other aps like sion) ahri has always the potential to oneshot ppl with little to no risk


Froggen is really good but he is not miles ahead of other big star EU mids.

I agree 100% not to take anything away from froggen he is obviously insanly good and one of the best aps in the world but you have several other top aps in Europe: Moopz Alexich Moma xPeke and others there are so many insanly good aps in europe
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 23:20:54
July 28 2012 23:10 GMT
#165
I would personally say that its not really true, that while she isn't as strong as the rest she get really good in protect the carry comps. She is situationally scales well vs anti carry comps.

Which when I think about is slightly worse than Ahri.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 29 2012 02:44 GMT
#166
Just saw the game, pretty impressing
indo
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States99 Posts
July 29 2012 07:42 GMT
#167
this tourney over for the night?
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 08:26:33
July 29 2012 08:13 GMT
#168
On July 29 2012 16:42 indo wrote:
this tourney over for the night?


Stream just started with player intro of Curse.EU vs M5.

Game 1
Curse.eu vs. M5
Bans:
Yorick        Maokai
Shen        Malphite
Shyvana        Urgot

Picks:
Alistar              Ashe / Sona
Ezreal / Taric        Vladimir / Kennen
Kayle / Karthus        Udyr
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 29 2012 08:31 GMT
#169
Thanks didnt even notice it had started, as the stream on the LoL main site seems to be offline.
Stream on twitch.tv works though. Strange.
Off-season = best season
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
July 29 2012 08:34 GMT
#170
/pause
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
July 29 2012 08:52 GMT
#171
Surprised how vlad can farm vs kayle without revolver. Also flat mpen OP
hi
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 09:12:13
July 29 2012 09:07 GMT
#172
Darien gonna rape Curse yea.

Edit: Sona trading with Ezreal, lolwtf.
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 29 2012 09:18 GMT
#173
I don't think linking to the twitch site stream is particularly encouraged. Clicked that and the chat is so incredibly toxic and intelligence draining. Best to watch it embedded somewhere without the chat.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
July 29 2012 09:31 GMT
#174
Hmm, that is the official Twitch channel so it would be unfair to ESL if we give their traffic to another site. I guess I could rearrange the links a bit to emphasize Riot's portal, which has an embedded stream.

Game 2
M5 vs. Curse.eu
+ Show Spoiler +
Bans:
Malphite        Yorick
Maokai        Urgot
Karthus        Shyvana

Picks:
Sona              Nunu / Orianna
Udyr / Jax        Vladimir / Corki
Ezreal / Zilean        Soraka

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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 29 2012 09:52 GMT
#175
Now here I thought that "top eu" teams are close to M5 and clg.eu but M5 absolutely destroying curse.eu lol and I expect nothing less from the sk vs clg.eu match.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 09:56:14
July 29 2012 09:53 GMT
#176
On July 29 2012 18:31 JBright wrote:
Hmm, that is the official Twitch channel so it would be unfair to ESL if we give their traffic to another site. I guess I could rearrange the links a bit to emphasize Riot's portal, which has an embedded stream.

I think they dont care if we watch on the twitch.tv site or one embedded on clg.net or whatvever. Only thing they might prefer would be people watching the one embedded on the esl site.
I only watch embedded streams because the twitch chat makes everything lag for me.

Btw, is there really a working stream on the Riot site? Because for me that one does not work.
Off-season = best season
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 29 2012 09:58 GMT
#177
how hard is it to watch the minimap and talk at the same time, i dont understand
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
July 29 2012 10:00 GMT
#178
this whole game Ive been hoping crs would get even one kill

sigh
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 29 2012 10:01 GMT
#179
Curse getting rolled...
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Venien
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom161 Posts
July 29 2012 10:01 GMT
#180
The stream on the Riot stream has (or it had earlier, not checked) the wrong stream, they've switched over to esltv's twitch stream.

As for the chat, just click the cog under the chat channel and click the middle option - 'Ukryj chat' to close it, don't know if it'll help out with lag, but it'll hide the idiocy at least.

M5 just stomped Curse EU, Curse played horribly. No map control at all, they just gave M5 every dragon, never bothered to ward it or even try and contest. I hope someone catches out Gosu P's Sona and just crushes his aggressive playstyle because I find Sona one of the squishiest supports ever. Still, looks like a CLG EU vs M5 finals again unless SK find a miracle.
Ezkaton
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Japan416 Posts
July 29 2012 10:04 GMT
#181
That game... Wow Crs got smashed. I Hope CLG vs SK is slightly closer but i don't think it will be :S
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 10:05:22
July 29 2012 10:04 GMT
#182
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOE MILLER!!!

HAHAHAHAHA ALEX ICH TOO GOOD
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 29 2012 10:05 GMT
#183
Hahaha suddenly starts singing. Thats a first.

Happy birthday Joe! Him and Deman are still the best LoL commentators.
Off-season = best season
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 29 2012 10:07 GMT
#184
what a boss alex ich. Super nice gesture, seems like they are good buddies.
dellesh1ruH
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark509 Posts
July 29 2012 10:08 GMT
#185
I can't get this stream to work. :-(
Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 29 2012 10:11 GMT
#186
On July 29 2012 19:01 Venien wrote:
The stream on the Riot stream has (or it had earlier, not checked) the wrong stream, they've switched over to esltv's twitch stream.

As for the chat, just click the cog under the chat channel and click the middle option - 'Ukryj chat' to close it, don't know if it'll help out with lag, but it'll hide the idiocy at least.

M5 just stomped Curse EU, Curse played horribly. No map control at all, they just gave M5 every dragon, never bothered to ward it or even try and contest. I hope someone catches out Gosu P's Sona and just crushes his aggressive playstyle because I find Sona one of the squishiest supports ever. Still, looks like a CLG EU vs M5 finals again unless SK find a miracle.

He doesn't engage with her, so I don't see how to easily catch her. He hoovers around the edges of the fight and throws the ult halfway through it, consistently catching 3-4 people with it. I think the enemy team needs to position better and stay aware of the fact, that if they clump up, Sona will ult them.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 29 2012 10:13 GMT
#187
Sona isn't really squishy, as long as you don't die before you get your first ruby crystal (good sonas usually get it before philo) then she's decently tanky and the more fed she gets the more tank items you get.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
July 29 2012 10:16 GMT
#188
Direct link to twitch stream without chat: http://de.twitch.tv/esl_poland/popout
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21584 Posts
July 29 2012 10:16 GMT
#189
Is it wrong to look forward to Oce getting stomped?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 10:32:10
July 29 2012 10:18 GMT
#190
On July 29 2012 19:11 BlueSpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 19:01 Venien wrote:
The stream on the Riot stream has (or it had earlier, not checked) the wrong stream, they've switched over to esltv's twitch stream.

As for the chat, just click the cog under the chat channel and click the middle option - 'Ukryj chat' to close it, don't know if it'll help out with lag, but it'll hide the idiocy at least.

M5 just stomped Curse EU, Curse played horribly. No map control at all, they just gave M5 every dragon, never bothered to ward it or even try and contest. I hope someone catches out Gosu P's Sona and just crushes his aggressive playstyle because I find Sona one of the squishiest supports ever. Still, looks like a CLG EU vs M5 finals again unless SK find a miracle.

He doesn't engage with her, so I don't see how to easily catch her. He hoovers around the edges of the fight and throws the ult halfway through it, consistently catching 3-4 people with it. I think the enemy team needs to position better and stay aware of the fact, that if they clump up, Sona will ult them.


The thing about sona is that if she's got the same range with her skills as AD carries and generally stays as far out as them. All her auras are 1k range so they're buffing her team regardless of where she is in a teamfight. The tournament is being played on the Jayce patch where she has her Q mana costs reduced but still has a 2 second GCD.

Good answer by Wickd though, froggen will carry clg.eu indeed, no worries about whatever happens to wickd.

Edit:: ban predictions

anivia, karthus, urgot, maybe a rumble ban as well.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
July 29 2012 10:18 GMT
#191
Thats it? LOL
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 29 2012 10:19 GMT
#192
lol there's a huge running "joke" now with clg.eu team carrying froggen around IRL hahaha.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 29 2012 10:29 GMT
#193
anivia and malphite not banned gg if lg.eu gets both along with alistar
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
July 29 2012 10:32 GMT
#194
On July 29 2012 19:18 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 19:11 BlueSpace wrote:
On July 29 2012 19:01 Venien wrote:
The stream on the Riot stream has (or it had earlier, not checked) the wrong stream, they've switched over to esltv's twitch stream.

As for the chat, just click the cog under the chat channel and click the middle option - 'Ukryj chat' to close it, don't know if it'll help out with lag, but it'll hide the idiocy at least.

M5 just stomped Curse EU, Curse played horribly. No map control at all, they just gave M5 every dragon, never bothered to ward it or even try and contest. I hope someone catches out Gosu P's Sona and just crushes his aggressive playstyle because I find Sona one of the squishiest supports ever. Still, looks like a CLG EU vs M5 finals again unless SK find a miracle.

He doesn't engage with her, so I don't see how to easily catch her. He hoovers around the edges of the fight and throws the ult halfway through it, consistently catching 3-4 people with it. I think the enemy team needs to position better and stay aware of the fact, that if they clump up, Sona will ult them.


The thing about sona is that if she's got the same range with her skills as AD carries and generally stays as far out as them. All her auras are 1k range so they're buffing her team regardless of where she is in a teamfight. The tournament is being played on the Jayce patch where she has her Q mana costs reduced but still has a 2 second GCD.

Good answer by Wickd though, froggen will carry clg.eu indeed, no worries about whatever happens to wickd.

Edit:: ban predictions

anivia, karthus, urgot, maybe a rumble ban as well.


Called karthus/urgot and guessed at the rumble ban. Not banning anivia is always a risky proposition against froggen but I guess they feel they can deal with it. Two bans from CLG are targeted at the anti-anivia champs though so I'm not sure what'll happen.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 29 2012 10:36 GMT
#195
Unless Oce has a plan on how to deal with Froggen, SK is completely screwed.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
July 29 2012 10:37 GMT
#196
I think I'm going to fall asleep at my desk soon so it would be great if someone can put the bans/picks in the thread. I will update the OP when I get up.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 29 2012 10:44 GMT
#197
CLG.EU basically gears towards lategame teamfights, focusing their picks on AoE / lategame.

snoopeh only plays maokai/alistar/nautlius/malphite (whoops 4 AoE / CC bots)
froggen plays karthus/anivia/ahri/morgana/ori sometimes (again the pattern is great AoE/lategame)
krepo plays leona and alistar a lot more than other supports, again the bias is on AoE, even for their support
yellowpete has taken to playing a lot of corki ezreal and graves, all of which have great AoE
wicked plays rumble malphite when they're not banned, and other random stuff when they are

their picks and bans are highly focused on grabbing malphite/rumble/alistar FP, in that order. the way their malphite/alistar overlap between their top/jungle/support is very useful to prevent counterpicking / allow for flexibility in their draft.
cool beans
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
July 29 2012 10:48 GMT
#198
SK is playing pretty good, it's at least close this time .
It appears I have been chosen.
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
July 29 2012 10:55 GMT
#199
wow sk with a nice 19 minute baron
jaedong the man with the huge dong
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 10:58:18
July 29 2012 10:56 GMT
#200
Damn, SK's playing well. Sneak baron, feed jax. Going to have to rely on yellowpete/froggen to pull something out.

Krepo's got balls and ninja skills, standing there and grabbing two kills for ezreal o__O.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 29 2012 10:56 GMT
#201
SK team comp so insanely strong. They should have that.
Off-season = best season
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
July 29 2012 10:57 GMT
#202
That was quite dumb by Yellowstar & Araneae sadly /;
It appears I have been chosen.
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
July 29 2012 10:59 GMT
#203
holy everybody loves ocelote in poland
jaedong the man with the huge dong
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 29 2012 11:01 GMT
#204
poland lots of ocelote fanboys lol
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 29 2012 11:01 GMT
#205
snoopeh so far behind, he needs to pick some farm
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 29 2012 11:04 GMT
#206
On July 29 2012 19:59 Owned Noob wrote:
holy everybody loves ocelote in poland

They also have a semi Polish player (kev1n) which is another reason the Polish are rooting for SK I believe.

Btw the screams on SK are amazing when they initiate a fight.
Off-season = best season
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
July 29 2012 11:07 GMT
#207
Wickd isn't going to be able to carry this, he's cdrolaf, not bruiserlaf, it's all on ezreal/froggen to win this for clgeu
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 29 2012 11:09 GMT
#208
jax poops on olaf post 6 if u wont shut him down he will completely destroy other team late game, i hate this champion
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 11:18:49
July 29 2012 11:09 GMT
#209
when ocelote plays bad, hes probably the worst competitive player in the scene, but when hes on his game, hes actualyl really damn scary
edit: gg sk wp
jaedong the man with the huge dong
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
July 29 2012 11:19 GMT
#210
sk's late game lineup was ... unbeatable :D
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
July 29 2012 11:19 GMT
#211
now that was a lot better of a game (compared to M5 vs Crs)

Really like the crowd excitement too! :o
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 29 2012 11:20 GMT
#212
I had never been impressed by SK's play in any other tournament, but that game was really fucking impressive. Very little room to toe the line but they managed to do it, losing only one team fight I think (barely).
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 29 2012 11:21 GMT
#213
the game was pretty much won at picks, sk team was 10x times stronger
bunberry
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia96 Posts
July 29 2012 11:21 GMT
#214
I felt like Snoopeh tried to shut down kog while ignoring top lane and that early kill helped Jax a lot, it didn't exactly snowball for him but Jax accumulated kills across the game with nice dragon/baron control from SK made Jax a monster. Great binds from oce imo, morg is so good when pressuring the opposite team with scary team initiating binds on the right target.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
July 29 2012 11:26 GMT
#215
i woke up late T_T,any result and whats the next game?
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
July 29 2012 11:26 GMT
#216
Well played SK, ocelote played pretty damn well that game and snoopeh couldn't pull off key ganks with his alilstar. Losing doublebuff to morgana early really hurt snoopeh's jungling and froggen's ability to lane against morgana. Later on the main problem was SK had jax+morgana+kogmaw doing massive damage, malphite melting the bruisers on clg while clgeu had leona/alistar for heavy CC but only froggen/ezreal doing damage since Wickd got shut down pretty hard.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 11:29:08
July 29 2012 11:28 GMT
#217
On July 29 2012 20:26 justiceknight wrote:
i woke up late T_T,any result and whats the next game?



m5 vs curse.eu results
+ Show Spoiler +
M5 Rolled curse.EU 2-0


currently on g2 of clgeu vs SK
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 29 2012 11:33 GMT
#218
CLG.eu vs SK Game 2

Bans SK: Karthus, Rumble, Urgot
Bans CLG.eu: Yorick, Jax, Malphite

Picks SK: Nunu, Maokai, Ahri, Irelia, Corki
Picks: CLG.eu: Kog'Maw, Alistar, Soraka, Shen, Anivia
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 11:34:43
July 29 2012 11:34 GMT
#219
Game 2
SK Gaming vs. CLG.EU
Bans:
Karthus        Maokai
Rumble        Malphite
Urgot        Urgot

Picks:
Nunu              Koggles / Alistar
Nyaahri / Meowkai        Sorara / Shen
Corki / Irelia        FroggAnivia
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
July 29 2012 11:34 GMT
#220
ANVIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

i havent actually observe his anivia and heard froggen played differently,how special is his anivia?
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 11:36:35
July 29 2012 11:35 GMT
#221
On July 29 2012 20:34 justiceknight wrote:
ANVIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

i havent actually observe his anivia and heard froggen played differently,how special is his anivia?

It's like watching art in motion.

It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
July 29 2012 11:36 GMT
#222
On July 29 2012 20:34 justiceknight wrote:
ANVIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

i havent actually observe his anivia and heard froggen played differently,how special is his anivia?


He lost last game against morgcelote.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 29 2012 11:38 GMT
#223
You write A.......nivia and dont know how good Froggen is with her?^^^Theres a reason the koreans banned her out against him, sk just think they can deal with her, but tbh they only won game 1 because their whole team Comp was better. lets go clg.eu

I think snoopeh losing that oracle early really hurt them btw, malphite was 6 and snoopeh still only 5 during that little botlane fight, and I think thats one of snoopehs only weaknesses, he's often really behind in farm. Or Scumbag Froggen just takes all hsi wraiths camps and botlane takes his golems lol.
SeeDLiNg
Profile Joined January 2010
United States690 Posts
July 29 2012 11:39 GMT
#224
Everyone getting all this video lag?
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 29 2012 11:40 GMT
#225
lags?
yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
July 29 2012 11:40 GMT
#226
twitch ruining game 2 with lag
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Xayoz
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia373 Posts
July 29 2012 11:40 GMT
#227
On July 29 2012 20:39 SeeDLiNg wrote:
Everyone getting all this video lag?

Yep. Image frozen at any quality atm.
Whenever you correct someone's grammar just remember that nobody likes you.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21584 Posts
July 29 2012 11:41 GMT
#228
refreshed the page seemed to fix the lag.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 11:45:13
July 29 2012 11:41 GMT
#229
I got lag too fixed itself now.

Atm CLG winning all lanes pretty much. Wickd building pick on Shen.

Snoopeh only has boots5. lol.
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Mios
Profile Joined April 2010
United States686 Posts
July 29 2012 11:43 GMT
#230
much better now
no LAN and intercontinental bnet = T_T
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
July 29 2012 11:47 GMT
#231
Looks like ocelote can't do quite as well if he doesn't get doublebuff. Ahri also has to get closer to the ranged creeps than morgana to kill them which lets froggen do his awesome Q stun from behind the torch thingy out of vision. I learned that off of him and abuse it so much on morgana now since it's a pretty guaranteed kill if you can hit it.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
July 29 2012 11:53 GMT
#232
So they're trying to kill anivia, but they just get smashed at every attempt. Egg popped? Np, free kill on corki for shen.
hi
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
July 29 2012 11:53 GMT
#233
Froggen's anivia making my head explode. As always
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
July 29 2012 11:59 GMT
#234
Wickd with Spark and Wit's now.

Froggen still with 0 deaths.
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JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
July 29 2012 12:00 GMT
#235
wow ahri just got blown up o.o
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
bunberry
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia96 Posts
July 29 2012 12:01 GMT
#236
comeback... baited by nunu.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 12:05:37
July 29 2012 12:01 GMT
#237
wow i really want clg to win i feel m5 is going to roll over sk ;/
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
July 29 2012 12:03 GMT
#238
Wickd is going to do way too much damage with the combination of wits+spark+passive. Froggen being oom really screwed them in that fight though, he didn't have much choice but to just auto and throw out a Q every 15 seconds >.>
bunberry
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia96 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 12:09:44
July 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#239
Lol, aggressive plays from maokai under turret then corki give CLG the fight and an inhib.

Edit: Wickd out of position... now chance for SK. Wickd let his team down there.
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
July 29 2012 12:09 GMT
#240
My head hurts from the comebacks/throws.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
July 29 2012 12:10 GMT
#241
I feel like CLG should have just let that Baron go to SK. They have the Anivia to turtle until the buff runs and all they did by trying to defend it with low health and 4 players is give up kills.
Zero fighting.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
July 29 2012 12:18 GMT
#242
Wow Snoopeh was huge that teamfight.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 29 2012 12:19 GMT
#243
how did wickd lose lane so badly?
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
July 29 2012 12:19 GMT
#244
On July 29 2012 21:19 zulu_nation8 wrote:
how did wickd lose lane so badly?


There wasn't really lanes with Wickd. He swapped top and bot like 3-4 times.
bunberry
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia96 Posts
July 29 2012 12:19 GMT
#245
On July 29 2012 21:19 zulu_nation8 wrote:
how did wickd lose lane so badly?

he didn't lose lane, he was 1v2 at the start and did multiple ults which saved his team and got kills, while Irelia outfarmed him hard.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
July 29 2012 12:21 GMT
#246
Meowkai constantly W's on Snoopeh. Not the best choice really, how are you going to blow him up when he can R out and still pulv your entire team?
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21584 Posts
July 29 2012 12:26 GMT
#247
rofl screen freeze when top tower has 100 hp and comes back with CLG at the nexus...
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
July 29 2012 12:27 GMT
#248
holy shit what a good fucking game!
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
July 29 2012 12:27 GMT
#249
That was an awesome game!

SK's back and they're showing it. Time for game 3!
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Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
July 29 2012 12:27 GMT
#250
Sick froggen snipe of Oce.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 29 2012 12:28 GMT
#251
ocelote didnt get damage off in the last 3 fights
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
July 29 2012 12:28 GMT
#252
yellowstar is some kinda retard lol
seriously that throw
gg wp clg
jaedong the man with the huge dong
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 29 2012 12:28 GMT
#253
dat instagib from Froggen on Ahri haha.
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
July 29 2012 12:28 GMT
#254
lol wow that ahri snipe at the tower was some kind of burst :O
Jaedong :D
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 29 2012 12:29 GMT
#255
On July 29 2012 21:27 Kouda wrote:
Sick froggen snipe of Oce.

And Yellowpete. Without his fast reaction Oce would have survived.
Off-season = best season
bunberry
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia96 Posts
July 29 2012 12:29 GMT
#256
What a mistake from oce or good play from froggen, whichever way you take it, it won CLG the game.
Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
July 29 2012 12:29 GMT
#257
Did Yellowpete finally get lifesteal for that last fight?
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
July 29 2012 12:30 GMT
#258
Damn. Pretty fucking awesome game, Froggen took a game to warm up but his anivia is absurdly good. You actually see froggen go legendary or close to it so much it's insane. Now SK has a choice. Ban anivia or not. That ultimate with the 20% AS slow wrecked irelia pretty hard when she came in.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
July 29 2012 12:34 GMT
#259
Heh the stream is blank and empty for me?
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 29 2012 12:35 GMT
#260
jayce art running for me but stream/twitch has been really laggy, sometimes going black during the game yeah.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 29 2012 12:36 GMT
#261
No problems with the stream for me.
Off-season = best season
bunberry
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia96 Posts
July 29 2012 12:37 GMT
#262
Froggen anivia is great, I can't count how many times his walls forced people to flash or be killed. MVP.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 29 2012 12:50 GMT
#263
Game 3
CLG.EU vs. SK Gaming
Bans:
Jax        Karthus
Yorick        Rumble
Kassadin        Urgot

Picks:
Malphite              Nunu / Koggles
Leona / Corki        Anivia (!) / Meowkai
Shen / Nyaaahri        Udyr

It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 12:51:39
July 29 2012 12:51 GMT
#264
Edit: Redundant information.

Go CLG E.U~
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 29 2012 12:51 GMT
#265
best flash from yellowstar
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 29 2012 12:52 GMT
#266
SK tries to counter CLG late game by picking stronger late champs themselves, instead of trying to beat them early like m5.

With that comp CLG should be able to play very agressive though.
Off-season = best season
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 13:06:18
July 29 2012 13:02 GMT
#267
ahri outplaying ocelote so hard tbh.

I mean oce is running cleanse against Froggen, meaning he's not really confident against Froggen in lane^^
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 13:09:01
July 29 2012 13:08 GMT
#268
On July 29 2012 22:02 AsnSensation wrote:
ahri outplaying ocelote so hard tbh.

I mean oce is running cleanse against Froggen, meaning he's not really confident against Froggen in lane^^

I was actually impressed that Oce was able to not die to Froggens Ahri and equal farm.

But this should be over now, Malphite too strong.
Off-season = best season
Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
July 29 2012 13:13 GMT
#269
On July 29 2012 22:02 AsnSensation wrote:
ahri outplaying ocelote so hard tbh.

I mean oce is running cleanse against Froggen, meaning he's not really confident against Froggen in lane^^


I have seen Oce take Cleanse like 100 times with anivia, not just because of froggen, but because its a great summoner to Anivia...
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 13:17:08
July 29 2012 13:13 GMT
#270
37k gold for CLG.EU to 25.6k gold for SK. A complete walkover.

Corki has Trinity+IE before Koggles can even finish PD. Only a Zeal+Dagger+Pickaxe for Koggles.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 29 2012 13:15 GMT
#271
fuck twitch is the worst stream service ever
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
July 29 2012 13:15 GMT
#272
I just noticed that bot lane was actually the "Yellow" lane.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
bunberry
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia96 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 13:20:04
July 29 2012 13:17 GMT
#273
SK's bot lane got behind in farm and Maokai was kind of useless, his ganks either didn't get kills or actually got his lanes killed. His initiation at the dragon fight was terrible.

Edit: I gotta say I'm impressed with Oce's reflexes, I've seen him flash a shen taunt and malphite ult.

Congrats CLG, I wanted a more exciting 3rd game but SK played terrible.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 29 2012 13:18 GMT
#274
Udyr just not a very good top lane anymore against the current top laners.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 29 2012 13:20 GMT
#275
SK surrender at 26 min after getting wrecked in team fights repeatedly. M5 v CLG.EU finals rematch coming up!
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 29 2012 13:20 GMT
#276
SK can be proud. The series was much closer than most people would have expected, they put up a good fight.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
July 29 2012 13:48 GMT
#277
Awesome finals imo =) I was wondering, I havent really kept in touch with the NA teams, whats (roughly) the ranking there? TSM/Dignitas/CLG.NA the top teams?
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
bunberry
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia96 Posts
July 29 2012 13:51 GMT
#278
On July 29 2012 22:20 BlueSpace wrote:
SK can be proud. The series was much closer than most people would have expected, they put up a good fight.

I agree, they've only had Yellowstar and Ara for what 1 week? their teamwork was most likely behind CLG yet they did very well. Credit to CLG though, they lost game one and were under pressure but still made a great comeback.
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
July 29 2012 14:01 GMT
#279
This SK vs Curse.EU 3rd place match could be very very interesting. SK are on the way back up.
My modesty is awesome.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 29 2012 14:12 GMT
#280
Game 1
Crs.EU vs. SK Gaming
Bans:
Yorick        Karthus
Malphite        Urgot
Shen        Alistar

Picks:
Nunu              Ezrael / Meowkai
Lee Sin / VAYNE        Sona / CassiOPeia (!!)
Annie (You smell like burning!) / Jax        RumbleInDaJangle

It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 29 2012 14:14 GMT
#281
Crs swaps Malunoo (jungler) to the mid lane on Annie. Sleper goes to the jangle on Lee Sin.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 29 2012 14:15 GMT
#282
Jax pops Meowkai sapling, Oce goes and uses poison to steal the big wraith!
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 29 2012 14:22 GMT
#283
What is maokai doing, both his buffs are up for the second clear? Almost 2 minutes late in SK clearing their blue.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 29 2012 14:38 GMT
#284
vayne is fed its gg already
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 29 2012 14:38 GMT
#285
Dat tumble out of Cass ult
A backwards poet writes inverse.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 29 2012 14:43 GMT
#286
lololol that annie ult just raped whole sk
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 29 2012 14:43 GMT
#287
lol jungler's annie too stronk for oce
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
July 29 2012 14:44 GMT
#288
Who was that raging at Oce?
SnakeKing
Profile Joined July 2012
6 Posts
July 29 2012 14:49 GMT
#289
SK Gaming for me! ^.^
BTW, anyone who is switching to LoL and planning to give up on SC2? If you don't mind, can you donate your account? Just PM me....
Imma beg for an SC2 account if I must! T.T
Pinith
Profile Joined September 2010
651 Posts
July 29 2012 15:16 GMT
#290
Looked like Oce derped facechecking all of Curse, but came away alive with double buff...
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
July 29 2012 15:40 GMT
#291
I honestly dont like the build of Angush on Akali, hes kinda useless.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 29 2012 15:42 GMT
#292
Picking akali to that comp was totally useless, she's the only one there at the melee zerg after amumu pops. Not to mention reveal from Kog.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
July 29 2012 16:25 GMT
#293
ashe gonna win this game
zazone
Profile Joined April 2011
Romania460 Posts
July 29 2012 16:29 GMT
#294
GO SK !!!
Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?-Adolf Hitler
Leonite7
Profile Joined July 2011
Ireland921 Posts
July 29 2012 16:33 GMT
#295
LOL Oce used ulti to ks which knocked shyv out of the way and stopped them from getting another kill. Doubt it matters though.
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
July 29 2012 16:45 GMT
#296
Nyph really is SUCH a nice guy
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
July 29 2012 16:55 GMT
#297
Anyone catch what Alex Ich said in that last question? "You need to buy..."
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
July 29 2012 17:00 GMT
#298
I think he made a joke along the lines of "how much do you have to pay to always speak first".
No I'm never serious.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 29 2012 17:03 GMT
#299
Game 1
CLG.EU vs. M5
Bans:
Jax        Urgot
Yorick        Meowkai
Vladimir        Alistar

Picks:
Malphite              Shen / Sona
Rumble / Ezrael        Nocturne / Corki
Karthus / Leona        Kassadin

CLG with their 100% win Malph and in the comfort-zone with their picks. M5 with their 100% win Sona and with the splitpush. Both teams double global.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 29 2012 17:04 GMT
#300
On July 30 2012 02:00 Nytefish wrote:
I think he made a joke along the lines of "how much do you have to pay to always speak first".

Also a comment on how CLG.EU always wins the coin toss to determine Blue/Purple side
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
July 29 2012 17:04 GMT
#301
On July 30 2012 02:00 Nytefish wrote:
I think he made a joke along the lines of "how much do you have to pay to always speak first".


No it was about first pick.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 17:22:11
July 29 2012 17:20 GMT
#302
Ah that makes more sense.
I'm hoping CLG win this.
No I'm never serious.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 17:28:31
July 29 2012 17:24 GMT
#303
Hmm CLG EU wins a 2v2 fight mid and gets 2 kills then transitions to Dragon. A pause comes out as they do, not sure if whatever reason the pause occured is why CLG won that fight because M5 started that fight that they lost. M5 winning early, but if CLG takes this Dragon the game should even up.

Game resumes, Dragon is contested 3v5, fight is prelonged and CLG takes the Dragon but is dropped really low, everyone splits up and M5 takes down everyone of CLG including Snoopeh who had oracles only losing Diamondprox.
yotis
Profile Joined September 2011
Czech Republic652 Posts
July 29 2012 17:28 GMT
#304
That pause - game deciding.
are they lost forever?
Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 17:29:53
July 29 2012 17:28 GMT
#305
I'm not sure how M5 got all people to dragon when they just lost 2 in mid. Crazy fast recovery by M5. That pause kinda screwed CLG IMO. M5 playing great though.
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
July 29 2012 17:30 GMT
#306
That Shen with Trinity is pretty new, seems to work pretty well though for trades.
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
July 29 2012 17:31 GMT
#307
oh my god m5 just play so freaking crisp. Such a pleasure to watch
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
July 29 2012 17:34 GMT
#308
What the fuck at M5 putting the pause everytime before making an action seriously ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
July 29 2012 17:35 GMT
#309
Yes, they just turned around and talked to their coach/whoever that 6. guy is.
None of them was touching/fixing his equipment...
At least not in th15 seconds the camera showed them.at
"My spoon is too big."
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
July 29 2012 17:43 GMT
#310
Not sure what the pauses were, but after them, it just threw CLG off rhythm. Gotta learn not to let that stuff get to them.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 29 2012 17:44 GMT
#311
is it bo3 or bo5?
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
July 29 2012 17:48 GMT
#312
On July 30 2012 02:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Not sure what the pauses were, but after them, it just threw CLG off rhythm. Gotta learn not to let that stuff get to them.

The systematically attacked like the second after putting out the pause... For me it's not mannered at all.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
July 29 2012 17:52 GMT
#313
On July 30 2012 02:48 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 02:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Not sure what the pauses were, but after them, it just threw CLG off rhythm. Gotta learn not to let that stuff get to them.

The systematically attacked like the second after putting out the pause... For me it's not mannered at all.


....twice, this seemed odd the first time, the second, suspicious
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 29 2012 18:01 GMT
#314
Game 2
M5 vs. CLG.EU
Bans:
Meowkai        Urgot
Rumble        Yorick
Alistar        Kassadin

Picks:
Shen              Malphite / Koggles
Nunu / Ashe        Sorara / Nautilus
Gragas / Udyr        FroggAnivia
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
July 29 2012 18:11 GMT
#315
A Random Udyr appears.
Malphite uses Teleport!
It's super effective???
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 29 2012 18:16 GMT
#316
CLG playing quite bad. That gank at the bot with Malphite could never have worked, no idea why they tried that.
Off-season = best season
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 29 2012 18:21 GMT
#317
Farming bot lane

then suddenly, M>5< appear
Fuzzmosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 18:27:06
July 29 2012 18:26 GMT
#318
CLG unable to close a single kill. 5 times in a row.

Use all resources, get no results, waste all the time.
I'm From Canada, so they think I'm slow, eh?
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
July 29 2012 18:26 GMT
#319
everytime a kill is about to happen, this stream freezes ffs
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
July 29 2012 18:29 GMT
#320
Am I seeing this right? 306 cs for Froggen at 26min?
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Fuzzmosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada752 Posts
July 29 2012 18:31 GMT
#321
Ashe attacks from behind, fully retreats in view of creep wave? That's a good time to chase her. M5 certainly won't regroup.

CLG seems to be on tilt.
I'm From Canada, so they think I'm slow, eh?
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 29 2012 18:31 GMT
#322
315cs at 28:30 for froggen

...still 2k gold behind vs his lane opponent >_<
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 18:34:36
July 29 2012 18:34 GMT
#323
M5 aces CLG without losing anyone

free baron
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
July 29 2012 18:34 GMT
#324
Relying way too much on Froggen the past 2 games imo.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 29 2012 18:34 GMT
#325
so is it bo3 or bo5?
Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
July 29 2012 18:34 GMT
#326
M5 making great plays. So far ahead now.
Fuzzmosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada752 Posts
July 29 2012 18:34 GMT
#327
And now it feels like CLGs many early failures to convert into kills has turned into a level and item inability to convert kills without huge mistakes. Oh dear.
I'm From Canada, so they think I'm slow, eh?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 29 2012 18:35 GMT
#328
Meh so over. Commentators way to cautios to call it because of that one loss of m5. Wont happen again.
Off-season = best season
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 18:39:04
July 29 2012 18:37 GMT
#329
It would be hilarious if it wasn't.

So hilarious.

Edit: By the way, I agree. Very likely not happening.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
July 29 2012 18:41 GMT
#330
On July 30 2012 03:34 kongoline wrote:
so is it bo3 or bo5?


Most likely Bo3. I don't remember seeing a Bo5 tournament for LoL yet.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 29 2012 18:42 GMT
#331
Dat gragas ult, holy
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 29 2012 18:42 GMT
#332
Whaaaaat the fuck gragas ult alone took 1/2 hp off of malphite and nautilus the tankiest champs on clg.eu

noo lg ( is thos bo3 or bo5
Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
July 29 2012 18:43 GMT
#333
Malph has built zero MR. I don't understand.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 29 2012 18:43 GMT
#334
On July 30 2012 03:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Whaaaaat the fuck gragas ult alone took 1/2 hp off of malphite and nautilus the tankiest champs on clg.eu

noo lg ( is thos bo3 or bo5

they have no mr
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
July 29 2012 18:44 GMT
#335
On July 30 2012 03:42 AsnSensation wrote:
Whaaaaat the fuck gragas ult alone took 1/2 hp off of malphite and nautilus the tankiest champs on clg.eu

noo lg ( is thos bo3 or bo5


The casters keep referring it to a bo3 by saying 2-0 win possibility. I'm really impressed by m5's adjustment from their last encounter with CLG.eu and the plays at breaking their turtle.
Fuzzmosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada752 Posts
July 29 2012 18:45 GMT
#336
WickD is playing like he's trying to throw in solo queue. Every Unstoppable Force seems to be precluded by a yell of "LEEEROY JENKINS".
I'm From Canada, so they think I'm slow, eh?
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 29 2012 18:45 GMT
#337
Neo, where's dem matches? BRING IT ON

M5 just too stronk
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 29 2012 18:47 GMT
#338
;_;
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 18:47:51
July 29 2012 18:47 GMT
#339
gg nice job

I think M5 really deserves it.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
July 29 2012 18:47 GMT
#340
Congrats to M5, great play.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
July 29 2012 18:49 GMT
#341
easy win for m5... not very interesting to watch !
kenwoo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States484 Posts
July 29 2012 18:49 GMT
#342
gg, i knew m5 wouldve taken it if darien doesnt throw
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
July 29 2012 18:51 GMT
#343
Really looking forward to gamescom now. M5 vs CLG rivalry really making uninteresting games entertaining.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 29 2012 18:53 GMT
#344
On July 30 2012 03:51 Baffels wrote:
Really looking forward to gamescom now. M5 vs CLG rivalry really making uninteresting games entertaining.


what?^^ this series was not rly interesting I agree, but your sentence kinda contradicts itself, Im sure when clg.eu watches their games they'll figure something out and gamescom should have interesting matches with the final being a rematch between these 2 awesome teams.

M5+Clg.eu > Na Scene
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
July 29 2012 18:55 GMT
#345
That was a lot more one-sided than I expected, damn.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
TenJin`Lucian
Profile Joined August 2011
Costa Rica158 Posts
July 29 2012 19:01 GMT
#346
I personally loved the ownage, glad to see M5 back in top form.
Eladir
Profile Joined September 2011
Greece467 Posts
July 29 2012 19:20 GMT
#347
Not sure if CLG got outplayed by M5 or they just played bad for whatever reason (travel?).
There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance. -Socrates
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
July 29 2012 20:06 GMT
#348
they didnt play bad. m5 are just better offline. they always deliver. clg on the other hand is not that consistent. Krepo doesn't have the level imo and Wickd has his days... the only one who's always rock solid is froggen. I hope they'll prove me wrong tho, it was way too easy for m5 this time.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
July 30 2012 01:03 GMT
#349
Will anyone on here actually rate M5 now? Damn they are good, wish they had gone to OGN .
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 30 2012 01:14 GMT
#350
On July 30 2012 05:06 RouaF wrote:
they didnt play bad. m5 are just better offline. they always deliver. clg on the other hand is not that consistent. Krepo doesn't have the level imo and Wickd has his days... the only one who's always rock solid is froggen. I hope they'll prove me wrong tho, it was way too easy for m5 this time.


CLG.eu beat M5 at the last LAN. Pretty convincingly. I fail to see how traveling from Korea to Poland can't be considered a bit taxing on your sleep schedule either. Not that I'm blaming that or anything. I think it's pretty obvious that they didn't play at their peak and M5 did. I also, personally, believe that M5's lanes are a lot more solid. Like the only player that CLGeu has that's better than his M5 counterpart is Froggen imo.

Genja definitely best AD carry outside of China/Korea doesn't hurt M5 either. And Diamond is too fucking clutch. I think that playing at 100% potential M5 will generally beat CLGeu but that was definitely not CLGeu's full potential imo.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
July 30 2012 12:47 GMT
#351
On July 30 2012 10:03 schmutttt wrote:
Will anyone on here actually rate M5 now? Damn they are good, wish they had gone to OGN .

Pretty sure m5 have been recognized as the top team, bar none, ever since they exploded on to the scene.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 30 2012 14:04 GMT
#352
Jet lag cannot be ignored. But no matter, CLG.eu knew it when they decided to leave Korea to play this tournament. It can explain in part why they lost, but it does not diminish M5 victory
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 30 2012 21:47 GMT
#353
http://www.twitch.tv/esl_poland/b/326645480

skip to 9:08:00 for grand finals picks/bans.
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