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samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
July 15 2012 09:01 GMT
#101
btw anyone worried about the skill gap i still encourage you to play my elo is below 500 and i felt not as good as others but felt i learnt alot and i had a semi decent game out of 2 going 6-0 i think.
Mystogun
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States392 Posts
July 15 2012 09:26 GMT
#102
Must learn to not bait teammates.
"What I'm sayin' is that there are known knowns and there are known unknowns, but there's also unknown unknowns, things that we don't know we don't know." | SC2: NoiSe.730 | LoL: Galladiator
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 15 2012 09:49 GMT
#103
On July 15 2012 14:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
Use "123" as inhouse password. That way people can join leisurely to spectate.

Edit: I run tlnet1 // 123 typically


This can be the standard and will be incorporated into the OP for now
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
PallasAthena
Profile Joined September 2010
114 Posts
July 15 2012 10:02 GMT
#104
I think if you are getting stomped or feel uncomfortable of your lane matchup just ask someone who is doing good on your team for advice, this isn't ranked so you hopefully won't get a douchebag answer like "JUST STOP FEEDING SCRUB"
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 15 2012 11:24 GMT
#105
On July 15 2012 19:02 PallasAthena wrote:
I think if you are getting stomped or feel uncomfortable of your lane matchup just ask someone who is doing good on your team for advice, this isn't ranked so you hopefully won't get a douchebag answer like "JUST STOP FEEDING SCRUB"

It's probably okay to ask enemy laner as well since the point of this is to improve. Especially if you're laning against somebody better than you, you might die without knowing what you did wrong. Your team won't necessarily be watching to figure out why until after the fact. Also you can ask spectators after the game.

Just a few mistakes I saw from people(keep in mind some of them are lower level players, mostly related to top). Enemy laner right clicks you, you right click back because "I can't let him get a free hit". Proceed to die to 10 creeps. That's a positioning mistake. If there are 10 creeps in a lane, it's going to push, quite quickly at that. At that point, especially melee vs melee, you just sit in exp range and wait for it to hit tower because you aren't going to lose more than 1-2 CS anyways when it pushes that hard.

Keeping advantages - If you got a kill on the other guy, spend some of that money on a ward. In a lot of matchups, assuming you don't make multiple bad trades, the only ways for the other guy to come back is to either outscale(irelia, jax and a few other champs), or ganks. I saw one game where top half of the map had one ward in the first 20 minutes. Unless you get fed to the point where you can take both jungler/mid and toplaner at once, you should keep warding.

Porouscloud - NA LoL
haflo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
140 Posts
July 15 2012 11:52 GMT
#106
this sounds so cool , hope someone make something similar at eu-west!
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 15 2012 11:52 GMT
#107
Summoner Name: Infecund
ELO: 1761
Preferred Role(s): Janna/Taric support, jungle, top
Schedule: usually free all day everyday... plans are kind of erratic (senior summer)
Bezelheim
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada61 Posts
July 15 2012 11:59 GMT
#108
Summoner Name : Bezelheim
Elo : 1976 or something
Preferred Role : Mid
Schedule : usually 2pm PST and beyond~


Improbable
Profile Joined March 2003
United States54 Posts
July 15 2012 14:24 GMT
#109
Summoner Name: Pyrotwin
ELO: ~1400
Preferred Role: Anything, but my ad is trash and jungle is my strongest
Schedule: Most evenings after 6pm EST, weekends vary
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
July 15 2012 14:45 GMT
#110
This is alot Of fun. I feel like I have good mechanics and it's just game knowledge/experience holding me back so this is great. Now if only we could get high elo players to spectate and critique.
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
Andybendy
Profile Joined February 2011
42 Posts
July 15 2012 15:30 GMT
#111
Summoner Name: ROOTCATZ1234 (used to be my favorite player)
ELO:~900
Preffered Roles: I have tons of junglers, few AD bot and AP mid, and then i have 1 really good character in support and 1 really good at top lane.
Schedule: depends on the day, but besides friday always open after 6.
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
July 15 2012 15:31 GMT
#112
Summoner Name: Bladeorade
ELO: 1500+
Preferred Role(s): Top and Mid, but can play everything
Schedule: Most days after 4PM EST
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 15 2012 15:50 GMT
#113
On July 15 2012 17:46 Lmui wrote:
A few replays from inhouse if people want them:

Tryhard TF+noct game ==;
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/604120/

Pretty one-sided.
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/604122/

One-sided.
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/604130/

MCMilo carrying. Hard.
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/604131/

Bleh, stop posting games where I play like shit.

So, I guess don't ever post games of me >.>
It's your boy Guzma!
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
July 15 2012 16:54 GMT
#114
would u guys prefer for advice to be given in the post game chat or in the chat room itself? i will make an effort to give advice in real time but there will be some that is best said after game.
also, when asking for inhouses, i'm gonna (and presume others will) invite the whole chatroom. so if you prefer not to be invited, let me know pls.
Hey! Listen!
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
July 15 2012 17:17 GMT
#115
For ahri vs ryze:
+ Show Spoiler +
alright let me give you a list of things i noticed
Navitar (10:05): first, the opening
Navitar (10:05): why do you like meki2pot?
Navitar (10:05): cause it definitely has its perks
Torjuu (10:06): mostly to farm
Torjuu (10:06): i use q alot for last hits
Navitar (10:06): mm okay
pyrotwin (10:06): hard to dodge those skillshots without boots though
Navitar (10:06): good to know your reasoning
Navitar (10:06): agree with pyro
Navitar (10:06): its very important
Torjuu (10:06): shouldnt really have been dueling give the setup
Navitar (10:06): im gonna first give my advice in here
Navitar (10:06): for every1 else who wants to read it.
Navitar (10:06): we were doing ahri vs ryze
Navitar (10:06): as ryze, since ahri has 2 skillshots
Torjuu (10:07): yeah, i couldn't really counter your last hits either
Navitar (10:07): having boots will allow you to dodge the longer ranged ones more easily
Navitar (10:07): for what you mentioned
Navitar (10:07): about using q to lasthit as ryze
Navitar (10:07): its pretty mana inefficient imo
Shiogi joined the room.
Navitar (10:07): and if the opponent sees you lasthit with q
Navitar (10:07): that gives them free space to harass you in
Navitar (10:07): without fear of being counterharassed by your q
Navitar (10:07): and then back off especially if you dont have boots
Navitar (10:08): cause you can't catch up if you dont use your w
Navitar (10:08): but in either case
Navitar (10:08): using w / using q to lasthit
Navitar (10:08): you will be running oom very quickly
Navitar (10:08): even with meki2pot
Navitar (10:08): if i have to summarize what you need to improve in 3 phrases
Navitar (10:08): it'd be 1. lasthitting with autoattacks primarily
Navitar (10:08): 2. counterharassing / harassing at all
Navitar (10:09): 3. i forget
swim224 (10:09): lol
Navitar (10:09): oh yeah
Navitar (10:09): 3. mana management
Navitar (10:09): a lot of people have trouble with 3
Navitar (10:09): even at higher elos
Navitar (10:09): cause they think too hard on 2
Navitar (10:10): hmm.
Torjuu (10:10): fair enough
Navitar (10:10): maybe ill post this in the thread
Navitar (10:10): instead
pyrotwin (10:10): i actually run movespeed quints on ryze along with boots vs skillshot champs, dunno how common that is, but ryze needs to be fairly passive early, doesnt really have the mana pool to duel early
Navitar (10:10): so that others can get the advice s well
swim224 (10:10): alright! Does any1 else want to join us?
Navitar (10:10): i run movespeed on a LOOOT of champions
Navitar (10:10): but a lot of others dont
Navitar (10:10): so preference

continuing:
1. being able to lasthit with your autoattacks only allows you to save your skills for harassing / counterharassing with your spells. this also ties in with
2. if you set up a predictable pattern of lasthitting, your opponent can go in for autoattacks when you go for an autoattack. and they should get away with an extra if it time it correctly. the things that prevent people from going with this aggression is a combination of counterharass (especially if your spells are stronger / have more cc at that level) and creep aggro, as creeps tend to do a LOT of damage earlygame. so when you set up a lasthit, ideally the opponent has a lasthit that they would miss when they go for the counterharass AND they will eat some creep aggro when they go for the attack.
3. try not to waste too much mana at level 1, as ryze's q is pretty damage - mana inefficient at level 1 (most spells tend to be). even with meki opening, you ran out of mana very quickly, and i had no threat of being counterkilled as a result post 3.
Hey! Listen!
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
July 15 2012 18:03 GMT
#116
On July 16 2012 02:17 Navi wrote:
For ahri vs ryze:
+ Show Spoiler +
alright let me give you a list of things i noticed
Navitar (10:05): first, the opening
Navitar (10:05): why do you like meki2pot?
Navitar (10:05): cause it definitely has its perks
Torjuu (10:06): mostly to farm
Torjuu (10:06): i use q alot for last hits
Navitar (10:06): mm okay
pyrotwin (10:06): hard to dodge those skillshots without boots though
Navitar (10:06): good to know your reasoning
Navitar (10:06): agree with pyro
Navitar (10:06): its very important
Torjuu (10:06): shouldnt really have been dueling give the setup
Navitar (10:06): im gonna first give my advice in here
Navitar (10:06): for every1 else who wants to read it.
Navitar (10:06): we were doing ahri vs ryze
Navitar (10:06): as ryze, since ahri has 2 skillshots
Torjuu (10:07): yeah, i couldn't really counter your last hits either
Navitar (10:07): having boots will allow you to dodge the longer ranged ones more easily
Navitar (10:07): for what you mentioned
Navitar (10:07): about using q to lasthit as ryze
Navitar (10:07): its pretty mana inefficient imo
Shiogi joined the room.
Navitar (10:07): and if the opponent sees you lasthit with q
Navitar (10:07): that gives them free space to harass you in
Navitar (10:07): without fear of being counterharassed by your q
Navitar (10:07): and then back off especially if you dont have boots
Navitar (10:08): cause you can't catch up if you dont use your w
Navitar (10:08): but in either case
Navitar (10:08): using w / using q to lasthit
Navitar (10:08): you will be running oom very quickly
Navitar (10:08): even with meki2pot
Navitar (10:08): if i have to summarize what you need to improve in 3 phrases
Navitar (10:08): it'd be 1. lasthitting with autoattacks primarily
Navitar (10:08): 2. counterharassing / harassing at all
Navitar (10:09): 3. i forget
swim224 (10:09): lol
Navitar (10:09): oh yeah
Navitar (10:09): 3. mana management
Navitar (10:09): a lot of people have trouble with 3
Navitar (10:09): even at higher elos
Navitar (10:09): cause they think too hard on 2
Navitar (10:10): hmm.
Torjuu (10:10): fair enough
Navitar (10:10): maybe ill post this in the thread
Navitar (10:10): instead
pyrotwin (10:10): i actually run movespeed quints on ryze along with boots vs skillshot champs, dunno how common that is, but ryze needs to be fairly passive early, doesnt really have the mana pool to duel early
Navitar (10:10): so that others can get the advice s well
swim224 (10:10): alright! Does any1 else want to join us?
Navitar (10:10): i run movespeed on a LOOOT of champions
Navitar (10:10): but a lot of others dont
Navitar (10:10): so preference

continuing:
1. being able to lasthit with your autoattacks only allows you to save your skills for harassing / counterharassing with your spells. this also ties in with
2. if you set up a predictable pattern of lasthitting, your opponent can go in for autoattacks when you go for an autoattack. and they should get away with an extra if it time it correctly. the things that prevent people from going with this aggression is a combination of counterharass (especially if your spells are stronger / have more cc at that level) and creep aggro, as creeps tend to do a LOT of damage earlygame. so when you set up a lasthit, ideally the opponent has a lasthit that they would miss when they go for the counterharass AND they will eat some creep aggro when they go for the attack.
3. try not to waste too much mana at level 1, as ryze's q is pretty damage - mana inefficient at level 1 (most spells tend to be). even with meki opening, you ran out of mana very quickly, and i had no threat of being counterkilled as a result post 3.


I think it's an interesting idea to post it on this thread. It seems like it may benefit more people, and can be saved for later use in a miscellaneous information type of thread on TL.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
July 15 2012 18:29 GMT
#117
ya that's why i put it here.
Hey! Listen!
lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
July 15 2012 18:35 GMT
#118
Summoner Name: Thunderjesus
ELO: 1724
Roles: Mid, support, jungler, and occasional top
Schedule: Usually I am around after 4pm EST everyday.
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
July 15 2012 18:50 GMT
#119
In channel right now, hit me up if you wanna do some duos, about 1k ELO :/
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
RageOverdose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States690 Posts
July 15 2012 19:35 GMT
#120
Summoner Name: ROverdose
ELO: 1193
Preferred Role(s): Mid, AD Bot, Top
Schedule: Varies
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