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samthesaluki
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Mystogun
United States392 Posts
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On July 15 2012 14:55 NeoIllusions wrote: Use "123" as inhouse password. That way people can join leisurely to spectate. Edit: I run tlnet1 // 123 typically This can be the standard and will be incorporated into the OP for now | ||
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PallasAthena
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On July 15 2012 19:02 PallasAthena wrote: I think if you are getting stomped or feel uncomfortable of your lane matchup just ask someone who is doing good on your team for advice, this isn't ranked so you hopefully won't get a douchebag answer like "JUST STOP FEEDING SCRUB" It's probably okay to ask enemy laner as well since the point of this is to improve. Especially if you're laning against somebody better than you, you might die without knowing what you did wrong. Your team won't necessarily be watching to figure out why until after the fact. Also you can ask spectators after the game. Just a few mistakes I saw from people(keep in mind some of them are lower level players, mostly related to top). Enemy laner right clicks you, you right click back because "I can't let him get a free hit". Proceed to die to 10 creeps. That's a positioning mistake. If there are 10 creeps in a lane, it's going to push, quite quickly at that. At that point, especially melee vs melee, you just sit in exp range and wait for it to hit tower because you aren't going to lose more than 1-2 CS anyways when it pushes that hard. Keeping advantages - If you got a kill on the other guy, spend some of that money on a ward. In a lot of matchups, assuming you don't make multiple bad trades, the only ways for the other guy to come back is to either outscale(irelia, jax and a few other champs), or ganks. I saw one game where top half of the map had one ward in the first 20 minutes. Unless you get fed to the point where you can take both jungler/mid and toplaner at once, you should keep warding. | ||
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haflo
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
ELO: 1761 Preferred Role(s): Janna/Taric support, jungle, top Schedule: usually free all day everyday... plans are kind of erratic (senior summer) | ||
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Bezelheim
Canada61 Posts
Elo : 1976 or something Preferred Role : Mid Schedule : usually 2pm PST and beyond~ | ||
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Improbable
United States54 Posts
ELO: ~1400 Preferred Role: Anything, but my ad is trash and jungle is my strongest Schedule: Most evenings after 6pm EST, weekends vary | ||
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MindBreaker
United States574 Posts
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Andybendy
42 Posts
ELO:~900 Preffered Roles: I have tons of junglers, few AD bot and AP mid, and then i have 1 really good character in support and 1 really good at top lane. Schedule: depends on the day, but besides friday always open after 6. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
ELO: 1500+ Preferred Role(s): Top and Mid, but can play everything Schedule: Most days after 4PM EST | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 15 2012 17:46 Lmui wrote: A few replays from inhouse if people want them: Tryhard TF+noct game ==; http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/604120/ Pretty one-sided. http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/604122/ One-sided. http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/604130/ MCMilo carrying. Hard. http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/604131/ Bleh, stop posting games where I play like shit. So, I guess don't ever post games of me >.> | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
also, when asking for inhouses, i'm gonna (and presume others will) invite the whole chatroom. so if you prefer not to be invited, let me know pls. | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + alright let me give you a list of things i noticed Navitar (10:05): first, the opening Navitar (10:05): why do you like meki2pot? Navitar (10:05): cause it definitely has its perks Torjuu (10:06): mostly to farm Torjuu (10:06): i use q alot for last hits Navitar (10:06): mm okay pyrotwin (10:06): hard to dodge those skillshots without boots though Navitar (10:06): good to know your reasoning Navitar (10:06): agree with pyro Navitar (10:06): its very important Torjuu (10:06): shouldnt really have been dueling give the setup Navitar (10:06): im gonna first give my advice in here Navitar (10:06): for every1 else who wants to read it. Navitar (10:06): we were doing ahri vs ryze Navitar (10:06): as ryze, since ahri has 2 skillshots Torjuu (10:07): yeah, i couldn't really counter your last hits either Navitar (10:07): having boots will allow you to dodge the longer ranged ones more easily Navitar (10:07): for what you mentioned Navitar (10:07): about using q to lasthit as ryze Navitar (10:07): its pretty mana inefficient imo Shiogi joined the room. Navitar (10:07): and if the opponent sees you lasthit with q Navitar (10:07): that gives them free space to harass you in Navitar (10:07): without fear of being counterharassed by your q Navitar (10:07): and then back off especially if you dont have boots Navitar (10:08): cause you can't catch up if you dont use your w Navitar (10:08): but in either case Navitar (10:08): using w / using q to lasthit Navitar (10:08): you will be running oom very quickly Navitar (10:08): even with meki2pot Navitar (10:08): if i have to summarize what you need to improve in 3 phrases Navitar (10:08): it'd be 1. lasthitting with autoattacks primarily Navitar (10:08): 2. counterharassing / harassing at all Navitar (10:09): 3. i forget swim224 (10:09): lol Navitar (10:09): oh yeah Navitar (10:09): 3. mana management Navitar (10:09): a lot of people have trouble with 3 Navitar (10:09): even at higher elos Navitar (10:09): cause they think too hard on 2 Navitar (10:10): hmm. Torjuu (10:10): fair enough Navitar (10:10): maybe ill post this in the thread Navitar (10:10): instead pyrotwin (10:10): i actually run movespeed quints on ryze along with boots vs skillshot champs, dunno how common that is, but ryze needs to be fairly passive early, doesnt really have the mana pool to duel early Navitar (10:10): so that others can get the advice s well swim224 (10:10): alright! Does any1 else want to join us? Navitar (10:10): i run movespeed on a LOOOT of champions Navitar (10:10): but a lot of others dont Navitar (10:10): so preference continuing: 1. being able to lasthit with your autoattacks only allows you to save your skills for harassing / counterharassing with your spells. this also ties in with 2. if you set up a predictable pattern of lasthitting, your opponent can go in for autoattacks when you go for an autoattack. and they should get away with an extra if it time it correctly. the things that prevent people from going with this aggression is a combination of counterharass (especially if your spells are stronger / have more cc at that level) and creep aggro, as creeps tend to do a LOT of damage earlygame. so when you set up a lasthit, ideally the opponent has a lasthit that they would miss when they go for the counterharass AND they will eat some creep aggro when they go for the attack. 3. try not to waste too much mana at level 1, as ryze's q is pretty damage - mana inefficient at level 1 (most spells tend to be). even with meki opening, you ran out of mana very quickly, and i had no threat of being counterkilled as a result post 3. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On July 16 2012 02:17 Navi wrote: For ahri vs ryze: + Show Spoiler + alright let me give you a list of things i noticed Navitar (10:05): first, the opening Navitar (10:05): why do you like meki2pot? Navitar (10:05): cause it definitely has its perks Torjuu (10:06): mostly to farm Torjuu (10:06): i use q alot for last hits Navitar (10:06): mm okay pyrotwin (10:06): hard to dodge those skillshots without boots though Navitar (10:06): good to know your reasoning Navitar (10:06): agree with pyro Navitar (10:06): its very important Torjuu (10:06): shouldnt really have been dueling give the setup Navitar (10:06): im gonna first give my advice in here Navitar (10:06): for every1 else who wants to read it. Navitar (10:06): we were doing ahri vs ryze Navitar (10:06): as ryze, since ahri has 2 skillshots Torjuu (10:07): yeah, i couldn't really counter your last hits either Navitar (10:07): having boots will allow you to dodge the longer ranged ones more easily Navitar (10:07): for what you mentioned Navitar (10:07): about using q to lasthit as ryze Navitar (10:07): its pretty mana inefficient imo Shiogi joined the room. Navitar (10:07): and if the opponent sees you lasthit with q Navitar (10:07): that gives them free space to harass you in Navitar (10:07): without fear of being counterharassed by your q Navitar (10:07): and then back off especially if you dont have boots Navitar (10:08): cause you can't catch up if you dont use your w Navitar (10:08): but in either case Navitar (10:08): using w / using q to lasthit Navitar (10:08): you will be running oom very quickly Navitar (10:08): even with meki2pot Navitar (10:08): if i have to summarize what you need to improve in 3 phrases Navitar (10:08): it'd be 1. lasthitting with autoattacks primarily Navitar (10:08): 2. counterharassing / harassing at all Navitar (10:09): 3. i forget swim224 (10:09): lol Navitar (10:09): oh yeah Navitar (10:09): 3. mana management Navitar (10:09): a lot of people have trouble with 3 Navitar (10:09): even at higher elos Navitar (10:09): cause they think too hard on 2 Navitar (10:10): hmm. Torjuu (10:10): fair enough Navitar (10:10): maybe ill post this in the thread Navitar (10:10): instead pyrotwin (10:10): i actually run movespeed quints on ryze along with boots vs skillshot champs, dunno how common that is, but ryze needs to be fairly passive early, doesnt really have the mana pool to duel early Navitar (10:10): so that others can get the advice s well swim224 (10:10): alright! Does any1 else want to join us? Navitar (10:10): i run movespeed on a LOOOT of champions Navitar (10:10): but a lot of others dont Navitar (10:10): so preference continuing: 1. being able to lasthit with your autoattacks only allows you to save your skills for harassing / counterharassing with your spells. this also ties in with 2. if you set up a predictable pattern of lasthitting, your opponent can go in for autoattacks when you go for an autoattack. and they should get away with an extra if it time it correctly. the things that prevent people from going with this aggression is a combination of counterharass (especially if your spells are stronger / have more cc at that level) and creep aggro, as creeps tend to do a LOT of damage earlygame. so when you set up a lasthit, ideally the opponent has a lasthit that they would miss when they go for the counterharass AND they will eat some creep aggro when they go for the attack. 3. try not to waste too much mana at level 1, as ryze's q is pretty damage - mana inefficient at level 1 (most spells tend to be). even with meki opening, you ran out of mana very quickly, and i had no threat of being counterkilled as a result post 3. I think it's an interesting idea to post it on this thread. It seems like it may benefit more people, and can be saved for later use in a miscellaneous information type of thread on TL. | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
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lethal111
Canada460 Posts
ELO: 1724 Roles: Mid, support, jungler, and occasional top Schedule: Usually I am around after 4pm EST everyday. | ||
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Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
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RageOverdose
United States690 Posts
ELO: 1193 Preferred Role(s): Mid, AD Bot, Top Schedule: Varies | ||
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