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Eladir
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Beyonder
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NeoIllusions
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sylverfyre
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Also, froggen's build was Catalyst -> Chalice -> ROA -> Unholy Grail, then qss/deathcap bits. | ||
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XenOmega
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
Also, I never thought Olaf facechecking against soraka could be so terrifying. Wait a sec, in that final fight at baron in game 2, Vayne left Urgot alive with <50 hp and ran off towards froggen to kill him instead, and got picked off by Urgot. Overestimating damage? I think that if Vayne had finished off urgot there, they could have won that fight. I really didn't think the Black Cleaver was very good too - already had a ton of AS from Nunu, Armor shred wasn't doing all that much vs the super tanky CLG team (Even froggen had significant armor from Zhonya, in addition to the fact that vayne really didn't want to be near froggen until later in a fight when froggen's shit was on CD. If it was a BT or IE instead, I think it would have served Vayne better all throughtout the game. Sure, there are games where cleaver can do work, but I just don't think that was one of them. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 06 2012 23:51 sylverfyre wrote: Catching up, and man, I know everyone's like froggen anivia froggen anivia in that first CLGeu v WE game, but Krepo's Leona was impressive. "Well they're probably in here, but my full team is behind me and leona is MADE for facechecking. Those initiates and always locking down corki for AGES just kept them in anivia ult (and rumble ult) for sooooooooooo long. Terror leona. Also, froggen's build was Catalyst -> Chalice -> ROA -> Unholy Grail, then qss/deathcap bits. I think froggen actually derped a little and got two pieces of DCAP then built QSS. His choices were correct though; at the time the only way his team would lose was if he somehow got Skarnar ulted. | ||
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zulu_nation8
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On August 07 2012 02:22 zulu_nation8 wrote: during the fight at baron, vayne thought urgot was dead but didnt get the last hit to make sure, if he actually killed urgot there game wouldve been completely turned around, also not sure why vayne doesnt get any lifesteal. Nunu had zekes iirc | ||
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
On August 06 2012 23:51 sylverfyre wrote: Catching up, and man, I know everyone's like froggen anivia froggen anivia in that first CLGeu v WE game, but Krepo's Leona was impressive. "Well they're probably in here, but my full team is behind me and leona is MADE for facechecking. Those initiates and always locking down corki for AGES just kept them in anivia ult (and rumble ult) for sooooooooooo long. Terror leona. Also, froggen's build was Catalyst -> Chalice -> ROA -> Unholy Grail, then qss/deathcap bits. Lol Krepo was pretty much begging his team to let him go in a few times xD in his own words: canIgoyet?canIgoyet?canIgonow?pleaseplease? Edit> Pete had GA up when Vayne decided to disengage so he would have lived anyways | ||
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zulu_nation8
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 07 2012 04:17 zulu_nation8 wrote: zekes doesnt do much Zeke's gives the exact same as a Vamp Scepter or unstacked Bloodthirster. | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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zulu_nation8
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jcc
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Deleted User 101379
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On August 07 2012 04:26 De4ngus wrote: today i learned attack speed and lifesteal dont do much for ad carries lol. It's an AD carry, not an AS carry or even LS carry, why waste money on stuff that doesn't fit his role? Stack those Infinity Edges. | ||
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Ente
Germany1795 Posts
OK I SHOULDVE SAID ZEKES DOESNT DO MUCH COMPARED TO FULL STACKED BT You have to remember that getting a BT severaly cuts your damage (if you would get LW, (second) PD or even a second IE you would get more dps) personally I often dont get BT anymore either and just with 3% masteries (optional 6% runes with for example kogmaw) and 12% zeke you are at either 15 or 21% which is often enough. That is of cause not like: dont get BT at all its bad or dont get a vamp scepter for lane its bad. Its just what I want do I want to be more damaging : get LW or PD do I want more defenses: get BT or QSS or GA (yes I see BT as a defensive item with an offensive touch  ) | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
Please watch the game before going HURDURUR THIS GUY SAYING LIFESTEAL AND AS ARE BAD ON AD LOLOL | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On August 07 2012 04:15 Vlanitak wrote: Lol Krepo was pretty much begging his team to let him go in a few times xD in his own words: canIgoyet?canIgoyet?canIgonow?pleaseplease? Edit> Pete had GA up when Vayne decided to disengage so he would have lived anyways But vayne would have survived instead of walking off and dying and leaving urgot without even his GA popped. Maybe even been able to burst down Urgot after he got back up, if his condemn came back off CD, maybe not. BT is really common on Vayne for a few reasons - you get a lot out of Tumble & Condemn, and you get a lot of lifesteal when you NEED to be in the thick of a fight. Many Vayne builds don't even bother with the IE, instead favoring BT PD LW then QSS or GA. Cleaver doesn't give you anywhere near the damage of BT OR IE unless its bringing them to very low levels of armor. In that game, it wasn't doing anything of the sort. | ||
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