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On January 11 2012 07:58 Woony wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 04:10 Two_DoWn wrote:On January 11 2012 03:31 Zlasher wrote:
Thank god the big Asian teams are goign to get a big scene going so they can dominate the American teams that practice on the scale of single digit hours per WEEK. Give them a kick in the rear so they stop being the lowest skilled pros of any esport around Unfortunately it doesn't matter how much you practice. LoL is cerebral, not mechanical. You either understand how to lane, gank, build a team, and fight, or you dont. There is mechanical skill involved, yes, but it isnt the same as say BW. Understanding and experience is much more important, especially when it comes to making damage trades in game, its what separates 2k+ players from 1800 ones. And Lol pros play FAR more than single digit hours per week. As much as everyone not involved in lol wants to bash on solo q, it is a very good way to practice and keep individual skill up. You get to see a wide variety of champions and builds, test new things out, and maintain situational awareness. Scrims are good practice in terms of team communication and we are seeing a lot more scrims nowadays, but are they that much more efficient than 2 members of a team duo qing? I dont tend to think so. And as much as everyone gets butthurt about it, the NA and EU servers will be miles ahead of the other servers for quite some time simply because of the back-loaded experience and sheer amount of time top pros spend in solo q messing around with stuff. But there's also the whole team dynamic thing which individual games don't have. A team that practices together a ton will easily beat an unpracticed team of much higher individual skill.
Definitely. Thats why teams scrim. But I just get pissed as FUCK when morons who have no idea what they are talking about come in here and say "lol takes no skill pros dont even practice" when you look at people like jiji, saint, TOO and the rest of the top teams who stream and play for 5+hours every day.
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But how will this affect SC2 in Korea?
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On January 11 2012 08:31 xXxSepirothxXx wrote:
But how will this affect SC2 in Korea?
According to Korean Reporter Locodoco, LoL is already bigger in Korea than SC2 both in terms of people playing (which we have seen) and in terms of tournament interest (unconfirmed).
Of course, no SC2/Dota2/HoN people wanna hear that, but who cares.
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Does it make me a bad esports fan that I get jealous at any game other than Starcraft BW/2 gaining traction in Korea? I know MOBAs are huge there but I just don't get the appeal (from a spectator's perspective). Either way, I'm glad OGN is able to keep moving forward in lieu of GOM's temporary monopoly of SC2.
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On January 11 2012 08:40 Bijan wrote:
Does it make me a bad esports fan that I get jealous at any game other than Starcraft BW/2 gaining traction in Korea? I know MOBAs are huge there but I just don't get the appeal (from a spectator's perspective). Either way, I'm glad OGN is able to keep moving forward in lieu of GOM's temporary monopoly of SC2.
It only makes you a bad esports fan if you bash it for no reason or refuse to actually try the game because of what other people have told you.
I mean, lol is free, so you have no reason NOT to at least try it out.
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"stop liking what i dont like" is what most peoples arguments boil down to, kinda sad really, especially considering how some people (including some more respected sc2 personalities) totally misquote LoL and have said some stupid things in the past which only help inflate the stereotype that league takes no skill because top players don't "practice". i remember hotshotgg being interviewed on live on three and said they only play as a team less than 5-8 hours a week and then in future episodes they started quoting it as they only "play" 5-8 hours a week when in fact most of them solo queue for hours on end. i really like the Lo3 crew but they really were pissing me off when they were saying that. also for some reason people outside the league scene think that somehow the korean players are going to be able to show real "teamwork" because they live with eachother when the sad fact is they solo queue just as much because of the shitty system riot has in place for this game, the endgoal for your average league player is to unlock stuff, when the goal really should be becoming the best player you can playing arranged 5's
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On January 11 2012 08:46 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 08:40 Bijan wrote:
Does it make me a bad esports fan that I get jealous at any game other than Starcraft BW/2 gaining traction in Korea? I know MOBAs are huge there but I just don't get the appeal (from a spectator's perspective). Either way, I'm glad OGN is able to keep moving forward in lieu of GOM's temporary monopoly of SC2. It only makes you a bad esports fan if you bash it for no reason or refuse to actually try the game because of what other people have told you. I mean, lol is free, so you have no reason NOT to at least try it out.
I have no problem with the game, I think its incredibly fun and I love Riot Games (I went on a pub-crawl with a few of their employees and fanbase at PAX two years ago and they were a blast). I just don't understand the game's appeal as a spectator. It just seems like the game is one huge tug of war where momentum is a major factor. Also, I don't see how balanced it can/will be if they keep releasing new characters all the time.
Question: do LoL tournaments have certain rules regarding non-playable characters or other such things like with Meta-Knight in Smash Bros?
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On January 11 2012 08:54 Bijan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 08:46 Two_DoWn wrote:On January 11 2012 08:40 Bijan wrote:
Does it make me a bad esports fan that I get jealous at any game other than Starcraft BW/2 gaining traction in Korea? I know MOBAs are huge there but I just don't get the appeal (from a spectator's perspective). Either way, I'm glad OGN is able to keep moving forward in lieu of GOM's temporary monopoly of SC2. It only makes you a bad esports fan if you bash it for no reason or refuse to actually try the game because of what other people have told you. I mean, lol is free, so you have no reason NOT to at least try it out. I have no problem with the game, I think its incredibly fun and I love Riot Games (I went on a pub-crawl with a few of their employees and fanbase at PAX two years ago and they were a blast). I just don't understand the game's appeal as a spectator. It just seems like the game is one huge tug of war where momentum is a major factor. Also, I don't see how balanced it can/will be if they keep releasing new characters all the time. Question: do LoL tournaments have certain rules regarding non-playable characters or other such things like with Meta-Knight in Smash Bros?
Not usually. There were a few exceptions - a game breaking bugs slipped past QA (Morde @ MLG Raleigh) or the newest champ was released just that week (Xerath @ IEM New York). Tournaments used to be played a patch behind live servers but Riot somehow made it work at IEM New York, so maybe that's not the case anymore.
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On January 11 2012 08:54 Bijan wrote:
I have no problem with the game, I think its incredibly fun and I love Riot Games (I went on a pub-crawl with a few of their employees and fanbase at PAX two years ago and they were a blast). I just don't understand the game's appeal as a spectator. It just seems like the game is one huge tug of war where momentum is a major factor. Also, I don't see how balanced it can/will be if they keep releasing new characters all the time.
Question: do LoL tournaments have certain rules regarding non-playable characters or other such things like with Meta-Knight in Smash Bros?
It's definitely going to be difficult to balance the game as more and more champs are released. In the past, the tournament realm is 1-2 patches behind the live servers, so you generally wont see the newest champion in tournaments.
As for non-playable characters, there haven't been any rules like that as far as I know. However, if there is a champion that is released that is considered highly unbalanced its completely possible that it could happen.
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My brain just blew up! This is fantastic!
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dude is this the next gsl =D I want in!
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friday 19:00 for the next 5 weeks means no osl for the next five weeks (at least) =[
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I really like this. I really hope we will be able to watch LoL with a higher porduction quality in the future. More LoL pro-games cant be bad :-)
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On January 11 2012 05:24 Janook wrote:
I'm really excited for this!
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I'm trying to get my username updated but, until then, I am Riot Janook.
Hi Janook, you might consider to contact Hot_bid or Kennigit via PM here on TL to have your user name updated.
Welcome to TL. 
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I was just thinking that if they invite HSGG or any of the ragers we'll have the next sex sex pussy hair.
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Nanashin is streaming this now, if anyone is interested in watching. An hour left in the show.
edit: And the show is wrapping up now. Kim Carrier played two matches; as Gangplank and Tristana, being carried to victory in the first match and losing the second.
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And he wore a Pirate hat while playing Gankplank, which is pretty awesome.
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I find it hilarious his name is 'Carry lol'.
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=S vods for this would be nice haha, but any one know the results?
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Fun to play, boring to watch.
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EPT
