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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 03 2011 18:43 GMT
#1641
On December 04 2011 03:36 DoXa wrote:
Not confirmed news on CLG:

+ Show Spoiler +
Lapaka joins CLG and forms a sub team with Elementz. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1555946

If true, good on them. The whole "only 5 people on a team" never made much sense to me, given that you NEED all 5 for quals, and then you run into problems like CLG had when ele was gone and they didnt qualify for MLG. With a full 5 sub team they can A, practice inhouse, and B, ensure they always are ready for action.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
December 03 2011 18:43 GMT
#1642
Where's stream for this tournament?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 03 2011 18:44 GMT
#1643
On December 04 2011 03:37 ryanAnger wrote:
I still think Sivir is super strong right now. Especially in lane w/ a Soraka.

In lane: most likely true. Lategame: Wouldn't be too sure.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17299 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 18:48:00
December 03 2011 18:46 GMT
#1644
On December 04 2011 03:36 DoXa wrote:
Not confirmed news on CLG:

+ Show Spoiler +
Lapaka joins CLG and forms a sub team with Elementz. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1555946

I don't even get what they hope to accomplish with this.

On December 04 2011 03:43 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 03:36 DoXa wrote:
Not confirmed news on CLG:

+ Show Spoiler +
Lapaka joins CLG and forms a sub team with Elementz. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1555946

If true, good on them. The whole "only 5 people on a team" never made much sense to me, given that you NEED all 5 for quals, and then you run into problems like CLG had when ele was gone and they didnt qualify for MLG. With a full 5 sub team they can A, practice inhouse, and B, ensure they always are ready for action.

Many tournaments are limited in how many you can have on your roster, e.g. just 5 or 5 + 1 sub.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
December 03 2011 18:47 GMT
#1645
On December 04 2011 03:43 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 03:36 DoXa wrote:
Not confirmed news on CLG:

+ Show Spoiler +
Lapaka joins CLG and forms a sub team with Elementz. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1555946

If true, good on them. The whole "only 5 people on a team" never made much sense to me, given that you NEED all 5 for quals, and then you run into problems like CLG had when ele was gone and they didnt qualify for MLG. With a full 5 sub team they can A, practice inhouse, and B, ensure they always are ready for action.


I think this point can hardly be overemphasized. Being able to try new strategies out without revealing it to a rival in a scrim must be valuable (I guess the problem is that their subteam won't quite be up to par compared to one of their rivals for fair testing of new strategies).
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 18:48:50
December 03 2011 18:47 GMT
#1646
On December 04 2011 03:36 DoXa wrote:
Not confirmed news on CLG:

+ Show Spoiler +
Lapaka joins CLG and forms a sub team with Elementz. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1555946

That explains why Lapaka is in the CLG Ranked Team on Client.

On December 04 2011 03:34 petered wrote:
Anyone got nikasaur's #? (Hope my wife doesn't read this thread)

I'm not allowed to give them out, sorry. Nika is married anyway.

On December 04 2011 03:24 Shiragaku wrote:
Hmmm...think we have a stable enough community to add LoL as another game that TL focuses on? I mean, we can create another site with the same model as TL.

One of the strengths of TL is how dedicated its volunteers are, especially considering all they do for the site pro bono. It's unique positioning at the time also helped make it the #1 site. TSM, CLG, AL and other sites right now are trying similar things... It's just a question of how to you make yourself better than everyone else and offer exactly what people want?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 18:48:56
December 03 2011 18:48 GMT
#1647
On December 04 2011 03:44 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 03:37 ryanAnger wrote:
I still think Sivir is super strong right now. Especially in lane w/ a Soraka.

In lane: most likely true. Lategame: Wouldn't be too sure.


I think the utility of her ult and her immense ability to push make up for her sub-par late game scaling. I could be wrong though.

Also, her passive is excellent.
On my way...
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17299 Posts
December 03 2011 18:48 GMT
#1648
On December 04 2011 03:47 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 03:36 DoXa wrote:
Not confirmed news on CLG:

+ Show Spoiler +
Lapaka joins CLG and forms a sub team with Elementz. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1555946

That explains why Lapaka is in the CLG Ranked Team on Client.

I would say that has more to do with them just screwing around in ranked.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 03 2011 18:53 GMT
#1649
On December 04 2011 03:46 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 03:36 DoXa wrote:
Not confirmed news on CLG:

+ Show Spoiler +
Lapaka joins CLG and forms a sub team with Elementz. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1555946

I don't even get what they hope to accomplish with this.

Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 03:43 Two_DoWn wrote:
On December 04 2011 03:36 DoXa wrote:
Not confirmed news on CLG:

+ Show Spoiler +
Lapaka joins CLG and forms a sub team with Elementz. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1555946

If true, good on them. The whole "only 5 people on a team" never made much sense to me, given that you NEED all 5 for quals, and then you run into problems like CLG had when ele was gone and they didnt qualify for MLG. With a full 5 sub team they can A, practice inhouse, and B, ensure they always are ready for action.

Many tournaments are limited in how many you can have on your roster, e.g. just 5 or 5 + 1 sub.

If the tourney has a limit on who can be on your roster, you just ask the 10 guys on your team who can make it, and make a list of 7. But imagine how much easier it will be to do that now that you have an actual pool or people you KNOW are forced to take responsibility.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
D u o
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada381 Posts
December 03 2011 18:53 GMT
#1650
Whats a good champ to SoloQ level to 30? I've looked at elementz tier list but I'm not really a fan of any of those champions with the exception of Kass and Nid, and I'm quite inclined to get Nid and just do a brawler build, and I've been avoiding getting kass because he's just impossible to farm with now.. The only thing is that I want to be an all around champion so if I have a bad team I'd still be able to carry my team to bring it to at least an even footing.

Anyone got any suggestions? I like playing burst champions and champions that have a bunch of mobility; Kass, Nid, Renekton, ect.
wot?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 03 2011 18:55 GMT
#1651
On December 04 2011 03:53 D u o wrote:
Whats a good champ to SoloQ level to 30? I've looked at elementz tier list but I'm not really a fan of any of those champions with the exception of Kass and Nid, and I'm quite inclined to get Nid and just do a brawler build, and I've been avoiding getting kass because he's just impossible to farm with now.. The only thing is that I want to be an all around champion so if I have a bad team I'd still be able to carry my team to bring it to at least an even footing.

Anyone got any suggestions? I like playing burst champions and champions that have a bunch of mobility; Kass, Nid, Renekton, ect.

Play who you like. Its much better to just play who you like and learn to do well with them because then you actually have fun playing the game.

If you like kass, nid, and renek, just play them.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
December 03 2011 18:56 GMT
#1652
On December 04 2011 03:53 D u o wrote:
Whats a good champ to SoloQ level to 30? I've looked at elementz tier list but I'm not really a fan of any of those champions with the exception of Kass and Nid, and I'm quite inclined to get Nid and just do a brawler build, and I've been avoiding getting kass because he's just impossible to farm with now.. The only thing is that I want to be an all around champion so if I have a bad team I'd still be able to carry my team to bring it to at least an even footing.

Anyone got any suggestions? I like playing burst champions and champions that have a bunch of mobility; Kass, Nid, Renekton, ect.


Tryndamere. For pretty much every elo. Watch for teemo counterpick
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
December 03 2011 18:56 GMT
#1653
On December 04 2011 03:53 D u o wrote:
Whats a good champ to SoloQ level to 30? I've looked at elementz tier list but I'm not really a fan of any of those champions with the exception of Kass and Nid, and I'm quite inclined to get Nid and just do a brawler build, and I've been avoiding getting kass because he's just impossible to farm with now.. The only thing is that I want to be an all around champion so if I have a bad team I'd still be able to carry my team to bring it to at least an even footing.

Anyone got any suggestions? I like playing burst champions and champions that have a bunch of mobility; Kass, Nid, Renekton, ect.


Riven is incredibly fun and gratifying to play. She's pretty mobile as well and her burst is amazing both early and late game due to her high combo damage and amazing scaling. The issue I always seem to have though is that everyone in my games wants to play the top lane. I don't get fully why. Lately though I've seen really few ADs in solo-normal so I've had to play a lot of Caitlyn. Of course, leveling to 30, jungle is the most guaranteed free role in any game. For that, I suggest Shyvana. She's so amazingly silly strong/fun to play in the new jungle.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17299 Posts
December 03 2011 18:57 GMT
#1654
On December 04 2011 03:53 D u o wrote:
Whats a good champ to SoloQ level to 30? I've looked at elementz tier list but I'm not really a fan of any of those champions with the exception of Kass and Nid, and I'm quite inclined to get Nid and just do a brawler build, and I've been avoiding getting kass because he's just impossible to farm with now.. The only thing is that I want to be an all around champion so if I have a bad team I'd still be able to carry my team to bring it to at least an even footing.

Anyone got any suggestions? I like playing burst champions and champions that have a bunch of mobility; Kass, Nid, Renekton, ect.

Just play a variety of champs to learn how they work. Leveling to 30 isn't really as important as learning what to do. Even when you reach level 30 you'll still be pretty bad (everyone is), so there's no sense to rush it by spamming just one champ.
twitch.tv/cratonz
D u o
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 19:06:24
December 03 2011 18:58 GMT
#1655
On December 04 2011 03:55 Two_DoWn wrote:
Play who you like. Its much better to just play who you like and learn to do well with them because then you actually have fun playing the game.

If you like kass, nid, and renek, just play them.

Well I don't have a problem doing good, its just if my team is terrible or makes a few mistakes its like instant loss [obviously -__-] I just wanted to know if there were any more character suggestions. n__n I'm pretty competitive so even if I know the loss isn't my fault I still get pretty choked about losing.


On December 04 2011 03:57 Craton wrote:
Just play a variety of champs to learn how they work. Leveling to 30 isn't really as important as learning what to do. Even when you reach level 30 you'll still be pretty bad (everyone is), so there's no sense to rush it by spamming just one champ.


I know how most champions work as I've played about 95% of the champions, I'm just looking to find more champions that I'll have fun with that can do an insanely good job at survive-ability. I've also come to the assumption that it's just better to learn one champion until 30 spend all your IP on runes and then branch off from there. Least that's what one of my friends had told me. I don't intend on going out and buying 10 champions just to learn them especially if I don't find them in the least bit entertaining to play.

On December 04 2011 03:56 Takkara wrote:
Riven is incredibly fun and gratifying to play. She's pretty mobile as well and her burst is amazing both early and late game due to her high combo damage and amazing scaling. The issue I always seem to have though is that everyone in my games wants to play the top lane. I don't get fully why. Lately though I've seen really few ADs in solo-normal so I've had to play a lot of Caitlyn. Of course, leveling to 30, jungle is the most guaranteed free role in any game. For that, I suggest Shyvana. She's so amazingly silly strong/fun to play in the new jungle.


Hm yeah I've watched a lot of people play Riven and I've heard nothing but good things from her. Maybe I'll give her another shot. [The only time I had was the first day she was out and she was incredibly weak. x__x;]
wot?
D u o
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 19:07:25
December 03 2011 19:03 GMT
#1656
Combined all replies into one. You guys reply fast holy. xD;
wot?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17299 Posts
December 03 2011 19:06 GMT
#1657
Buy a couple champs, then buy mostly runes. Play what's free.
twitch.tv/cratonz
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 03 2011 19:11 GMT
#1658
You will inevitably lose ~50% of your games anyways. So if you lose 55% for a while because you play a champ that you like, should you care?

It's a grind to level 30. Really, it is. The last few levels take SO FUCKING LONG. Try to have fun. It's just normal games anyways. You shouldn't give a damn about win or loss in those.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 03 2011 19:12 GMT
#1659
On December 04 2011 03:47 MoonBear wrote:


Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 03:34 petered wrote:
Anyone got nikasaur's #? (Hope my wife doesn't read this thread)

I'm not allowed to give them out, sorry. Nika is married anyway.



You just crushed so many nerds' dreams, including my own.
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Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
December 03 2011 19:13 GMT
#1660
On December 04 2011 04:06 Craton wrote:
Buy a couple champs, then buy mostly runes. Play what's free.


So true, I bought a ton of sustain junglers from 10-20 and aoe junglers like skarner and udyr are so much better with the right runes. I would play only free champs until you find out the ones that really interest you, then buy them and get good with them while you fill out some generic rune pages for that class of character.
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