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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
November 26 2011 19:03 GMT
#2581
off topic, but iem kiev is on right now but I can't find a stream anywhere is there like a lol TL out there?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
November 26 2011 19:05 GMT
#2582
On November 27 2011 03:57 Craton wrote:
[image loading]

lol guessed he massed games today yesterday he was 1250 and it was hillarious to watch for about 3 minures,
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
November 26 2011 19:06 GMT
#2583
On November 27 2011 04:03 NotSorry wrote:
off topic, but iem kiev is on right now but I can't find a stream anywhere is there like a lol TL out there?

a. IEM Kiev isnt until January.
b. IEM is always broadcast on ESLTV so you can just google that. In january.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 26 2011 19:07 GMT
#2584
I think he means the second US Qualifier for IEM Kiev. I don't know where a stream for it is though.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
November 26 2011 19:09 GMT
#2585
On November 27 2011 04:07 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I think he means the second US Qualifier for IEM Kiev. I don't know where a stream for it is though.


yea that's what I mean, I was on the IEM site and they had a count down clock for it and it was supposed to start 8mins ago but can't find a stream for it
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
November 26 2011 19:14 GMT
#2586
On November 27 2011 03:58 seppolevne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 02:06 Craton wrote:
On November 27 2011 01:31 Unentschieden wrote:
The problem with different laning and jungling requirements is the collision when you take one to the other. Wriggles is intended as jungling item but plenty laners use it for infinite sustain. And in turn without in depht research your first try to jungle will most likely result in you dying to creeps - that is quite a bit different than a suboptimal runepage when laning.

BREAKING NEWS: Noobs are bad! Who cares. Never make your decision based on what an inexperienced player will do their first time trying something. There are plenty more people who do full retard things in lane in early levels than there are junglers dying to minions. There's a reason there's a gradual leveling system so that people can learn how to play against equally bad opponents. Moreover, the new masteries make jungling much less reliant on rune pages.

Wriggles offers very little over just a plain vampiric sceptor for sustain, by the way.

Pot nerfs are even dumber than the jungler nerfs. What do people do when they get low hp? Hug towers or back. What do people do when they have high hp? Skirmish and poke. Pot nerf is yet another change that goes explicitly against their stated goal of decreasing passivity.

So people get to low hp, they tower hug. Free lane for the other team to farm all day. Or they back - free tower. Or maybe they stay around because shit, we need to defend this -> other team gets aggressive -> jungler ganks them. Or maybe the aggressive lanes trades 2 for 1. Or maybe everyone b's every 3 minutes because....? Less health means more deaths - backing isn't instant and not always an option.

The amount of times someone screws up and overstays at low hp will not eclipse the amount of times someone just backs or hugs tower. Their whole passivity bullshit was based primarily around tournaments, which are players you can be damn sure are going to err on the side of caution.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
November 26 2011 19:21 GMT
#2587
On November 27 2011 04:14 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 03:58 seppolevne wrote:
On November 27 2011 02:06 Craton wrote:
On November 27 2011 01:31 Unentschieden wrote:
The problem with different laning and jungling requirements is the collision when you take one to the other. Wriggles is intended as jungling item but plenty laners use it for infinite sustain. And in turn without in depht research your first try to jungle will most likely result in you dying to creeps - that is quite a bit different than a suboptimal runepage when laning.

BREAKING NEWS: Noobs are bad! Who cares. Never make your decision based on what an inexperienced player will do their first time trying something. There are plenty more people who do full retard things in lane in early levels than there are junglers dying to minions. There's a reason there's a gradual leveling system so that people can learn how to play against equally bad opponents. Moreover, the new masteries make jungling much less reliant on rune pages.

Wriggles offers very little over just a plain vampiric sceptor for sustain, by the way.

Pot nerfs are even dumber than the jungler nerfs. What do people do when they get low hp? Hug towers or back. What do people do when they have high hp? Skirmish and poke. Pot nerf is yet another change that goes explicitly against their stated goal of decreasing passivity.

So people get to low hp, they tower hug. Free lane for the other team to farm all day. Or they back - free tower. Or maybe they stay around because shit, we need to defend this -> other team gets aggressive -> jungler ganks them. Or maybe the aggressive lanes trades 2 for 1. Or maybe everyone b's every 3 minutes because....? Less health means more deaths - backing isn't instant and not always an option.

The amount of times someone screws up and overstays at low hp will not eclipse the amount of times someone just backs or hugs tower. Their whole passivity bullshit was based primarily around tournaments, which are players you can be damn sure are going to err on the side of caution.

On the other hand if potions are less effective then there's more incentive to harass, especially to use mana to harass. With how pots are now you'll run out of mana before your opponent takes any damage. And if people have to recall or tower hug then you have the freedom to do more - like gank other lanes.
emji
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada82 Posts
November 26 2011 19:52 GMT
#2588
On November 27 2011 04:09 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 04:07 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I think he means the second US Qualifier for IEM Kiev. I don't know where a stream for it is though.


yea that's what I mean, I was on the IEM site and they had a count down clock for it and it was supposed to start 8mins ago but can't find a stream for it


http://www.twitch.tv/national_esl1

Curse vs AL atm
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 26 2011 19:58 GMT
#2589
EG streaming their games I believe.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
November 26 2011 20:06 GMT
#2590
these commentators are pretty bad
twitch.tv/cratonz
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
November 26 2011 20:06 GMT
#2591
Who are all these people playing for AL NA, I only know Phantomlord and Vman7
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
November 26 2011 20:09 GMT
#2592
just generic highish elo people
twitch.tv/cratonz
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 26 2011 20:10 GMT
#2593
And it looks like EG is continuing to be the most flexible team in the world- West top on fizz, Dan jungle leona, dyrus ad carry as cait.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
November 26 2011 20:11 GMT
#2594
Holy balls. That Leona gank so scary.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 20:11:49
November 26 2011 20:11 GMT
#2595
Does anybody know if the qualifiers are played on Shyvana or live patch?

nevermind if he's playing Fizz ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 20:14:01
November 26 2011 20:13 GMT
#2596
Neo, how could you be on a team with Quality Player? I just met him in solo queue. We were Cait/Janna bot vs Vayne/sona. Dude starts dblade... and then goes super aggro when he knows my shield is on CD. I was able to hit every shield before sona or vayne could Q him but he didn't really have any sense of when to be passive. Luckily the other guys messed up and I was able to ult both of them into a tower and get Quality Player a double kill. With our jungler there we took the tower and I let out a sigh of relief now that we'd just narrowly won the lane.

After that he was basically 2-7-0, making rookie positioning mistakes every fight and getting picked off first until we stole baron and did a final push which allowed him to end the game 9-7-5.
He was super BM the entire game and had a terrible attitude towards our jungler that gave up first blood but then did amazing despite that. Spamming things like "real" and "janna is the worst support champion in the game." How the hell old is this guy?
MIK Terran
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
November 26 2011 20:20 GMT
#2597
Because he's not playing the account.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
November 26 2011 20:22 GMT
#2598
Hey, what masteries and runes do you think Dan is running on Leona?
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
November 26 2011 20:26 GMT
#2599
On November 27 2011 05:20 Craton wrote:
Because he's not playing the account.

which one
MIK Terran
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 26 2011 20:30 GMT
#2600
On November 27 2011 05:22 Shiragaku wrote:
Hey, what masteries and runes do you think Dan is running on Leona?

armpen, armor, scaling mr, ad.

21-9
http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=1-2-0-2-4-0-0-2-1-0-2-0-3-0-3-0-1-1-2-3-2-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
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