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Warning my english isnt that good.
For playing team coordinated games which do you think is better Skype or Ventrillo and why?
Ive used Ventrillo for awhile when i played WoW without much problems or fuss about it. But when sc2 came out I was forced to switch to Skype because some sc2 buddys preferred it. Now I find my self loving skype and refusing to use vent. Ive mainly been using skype for playing ranked 5v5 in LoL as I find it far better than ventrillo. The biggest diffrence at least to me is the sound quality between the two. Vents voice quality seems pretty poor compared to skypes taking account the microphone the person is using. I also just hate the push to talk key now when using ventrillo. Skype is pretty good at canceling unneeded noise and when Im playing a game not having to use a push to talk key helps me focus on what im doing.
All in all i think Skype is better for competitive team games mainly because of how well its manages to use nonPTT communication. What are your thoughts?
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Vent can use non PTT if you want it too. Personally, I find Skype really annoying to use and use vent most of the time. But, if I had the choice I would prefer to use TS3/mumble.
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I prefer mumble too.
Never been a fan of ventrilo and skype has an annoying interface and uses up more memory than it should.
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There's literally no difference if you use the right configurations.
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vent: push to talk and the channel system is nice
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i have like all the voice chat programs installed
all the different folks i play with use different programs(skype, mumble, ventrillo, teamspeak)
and skype is the worst imo
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Mumble and Teamspeak are pretty much the best.
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i fakin hate skype :D
for the rest i dont care which to use, but mostly i use ts3^^
honestly i havent used skype in a long time, but when i did, it used like a bazillion megabytes of ram and made my ping bad, also it had a big delay between when u talk and when it gets to your mates.
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Mumble is pretty solidly better than both...
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I love skype.
I dislike vent because of its push to talk (I know you can set it off, but it still delays) and its usual delay between talking (about 3-4 secs, even more up to 30 secs if you are unlucky -_-), not sure how anyone can play competitively using vent..
Also skype can be used for even more than playing games, you can IM people, and video chat. No problems with delays or anything. (Ofc if you have a bad comp it may be annoying for you to use)
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On November 12 2011 23:54 TwilightStar wrote:
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I dislike vent because of its push to talk (I know you can set it off, but it still delays) and its usual delay between talking (about 3-4 secs, even more up to 30 secs if you are unlucky -_-), not sure how anyone can play competitively using vent..
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LOL 3-4 secs on vent wtf. u run the server on a gameboy color?
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If vent has thay much of a delay for you thats your own internet being shitty. Or your vent server is located in tibet in the mountains guarded by a celibate group of monks that dont believe in good internet connections and use a toaster for a server.
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the people in charge of skype must talk to the facebook guys.
they keep removing functionality I like and calling it an "upgrade".
**** skype even though everyone I know who plays LoL uses it except my old CS friends.
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I have no idea what the difference is. People are so insistent and elitist all I want is to be able to change volumes of people and set push to talk key =/
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there is literally no difference for in-game purposes, but out of game it depends whether you hang with a gamer community (can more easily jump in another channel and chat), or if you leave skype up (to talk with your girlfriend or something) and you don't want a 2nd program open.
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skype is for talking to friends
vent is for playing games ^_^
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I've always used vent, I really like the interface and how it functions in general. Mumble is probably better but I'm still going to use vent.
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Baa?21243 Posts
TS3 is the best. Gotta support TL!
Also Skype is a resource hog, and for people with shitty computers like me it kinda sucks.
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Ventrilo.
Skype only good if you have only 1 fixed team... and you can bear the inability to ptt. When i use skype i get paranoid.
Can't fart in peace 
Ventrilo offers rooms, password protection, ptt optionally, broadcast across rooms etc for a bit of monthly cash. Not worth it for small scale use i guess.
I have no idea how people keep thinking ventrilo has poor quality when it offers a choice of the best codecs in high bitrate and khz.
I'm currently using vent because my online buddies still have a HUGE server rented for their Lineage 2 alliance.
Other guys i play with sometimes have a TS3 server. I feel like everybody sounds the same on that server, but its probably just poorly set up.
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United States4053 Posts
I don't like the lack of PTT on skype, and while I like the minimalist design of Ventrilo, I sometimes find that the options have really weird names. TS3's still my favorite voice chat program, even if the TL servers have been unstable lately.
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If your just a couple guys I'd say skype is good but if your more then 2 or 3 a TS3 servers really good. vents pretty good for people who are lazy but ts3 is worth the effort.
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I've never used Skype outside of talking to friends. I could never consider using it for gaming due to the lack of a push to talk key (unless they've added one and I don't know about it). I bind my push to talk to the "Forward" key on my mouse which makes queuing up to talk on Ventrilo or TS3 or Mumble effortless. But if you have a traditional three button mouse I could kind of see why push to talk might not be as desireable. At least not as first, most of my friends that use keyboard buttons for their PTT don't really have any complaints.
As for comparisons between TS3/Vent/Mumble, if I'm hosting a VOIP over my own server that I own I would probably pick TS3. It's nice. But if you're paying for a provider Ventrilo and Mumble are a lot cheaper than TS3 and honestly those three VOIPs are all good enough that liking or disliking them pretty much comes down to personal preference. I don't think you can objectively say that one of those three is superior (especially considering how much you can mod each one).
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get Teamspeak 3 way to go IMO I've used Teamspeak since TS2 its always been good to me but out of the two if you only game Vent if you have family with skype get that
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I've used all of them, and they're all perfectly fine.
I use skype the most because that's what my friends use.
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Just curious, what is it about mumble and ts3 that makes them better than skype? I've never used either, just had experience with skype and vent (prefer skype).
Edit: are ts3 and mumble better for general chat purposes too or is it just gaming?
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The ability to use push-to-talk function, which allows you to not transmit unwanted noise such as loud keyboards.
TS3/Mumble > vent in sensitivity activation. Also I had far fewer problems about volume levels in TS than vent.
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When tapioca doesnt use push to talk you get to hear him chewing ice and wheezing into the mic while the t.v. at like 10,000% volume is blasting in the background. This is after setting him to 7% on vent. lol
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TS3 #1. You can mute people in it, very convenient when you're playing with sbd next to you. It's the ONLY client with this option.
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On November 13 2011 10:31 mr_tolkien wrote:
TS3 #1. You can mute people in it, very convenient when you're playing with sbd next to you. It's the ONLY client with this option.
You can mute people on mumble.
Also, not only does skype lack PTT, but you also can't hotkey the mute/unmute button. If you want to mute, you need to tab to skype, which is bad if your computer isn't very good. Also, channels.
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On November 13 2011 10:31 mr_tolkien wrote:
TS3 #1. You can mute people in it, very convenient when you're playing with sbd next to you. It's the ONLY client with this option.
You can mute people on Ventrilo. <_<
Literally everything you can do in TS3 you can do in Ventrilo and Mumble. I prefer TS personally but have been primarily using Ventrilo because it and Mumble are significantly cheaper unless you run it off your own server. Honestly I don't think there's any advantages over each other they're all really well designed VOIPs. This is coming from someone who has used all three very extensively.
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Actually the only real difference is voice quality between TS/Vent/Mumble. TS3 has better voice quality because the codec they use is newer.
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-.- I use skype out of convenience because I'm on skype anyways... but its annoying because calls can cause you to minimize, and you can click on alerts of online through the client...
but yea imo vent > skype
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On November 13 2011 07:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Also Skype is a resource hog
If you want to just chat, use teamspeak or mumble. Skype is nice for video, but not necessary for gaming.
Yep, gaming on a laptop ftl! TS/mumble are more forgiving on your cpu and have equally good quality. Push to talk is nice to get rid of the background noise
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Between skype and vent I'd much, much rather use vent. Though I have a crappy computer and can't run skype along with LoL. Though I like Mumble better for the sensitivity.
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I prefer Teamspeak. I used to use Skype, but it was a resource hog, so I tried out TS and will never go back.
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On November 13 2011 10:47 FreezerJumps wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2011 10:31 mr_tolkien wrote:
TS3 #1. You can mute people in it, very convenient when you're playing with sbd next to you. It's the ONLY client with this option. You can mute people on mumble. Also, not only does skype lack PTT, but you also can't hotkey the mute/unmute button. If you want to mute, you need to tab to skype, which is bad if your computer isn't very good. Also, channels.
You can also locally mute people on ventrilo.
I'm not sure how to set it up on TS (I'm sure it's possible, though), but Mumble and Ventrilo you can Normalize incoming volumes, so you don't have some people (who just naturally talk louder, or who have dumb mic settings) blasting your ears off while others are barely audible. To my knowledge, skype doesn't do this.
Also, PTT side mouse button = best PTT button!
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...why does no one ever think of mumble? I have to use mumble and vent pretty frequently while playing LoL, and *every* time I'm on vent I wish they would switch over to our mumble server. Vent has a larger delay/lag (in my experience), sounds a billion times worse, and has less easy-to-access options like muting and deafening yourself. TS3 I've only used a handful of times, and it seemed nice but, like people here have said, kind of confusing/complicated to use at first. It feels to me like mumble has a lot of the features people like in TS3 (especially if you start delving into the more complicated server-side stuff-- you can set up who has access to what rooms, linking rooms together temporarily, etc etc). And it's completely free/open source!
I can still see why people would like to use TS3 or skype but I have *no* clue why there are still people who stick to vent.
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Imo mumble is the best because it has the best audio quality, its easy to use and its light. Ive used both skype and vent in the past and the audio quality of vent has been trash. Skype is heavy on the memory and its hard to use when you got i.e. a 25man wow raid. It's also really easy to send pictures in mumble too and I find it really useful.
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On November 13 2011 10:47 FreezerJumps wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2011 10:31 mr_tolkien wrote:
TS3 #1. You can mute people in it, very convenient when you're playing with sbd next to you. It's the ONLY client with this option. You can mute people on mumble. Also, not only does skype lack PTT, but you also can't hotkey the mute/unmute button. If you want to mute, you need to tab to skype, which is bad if your computer isn't very good. Also, channels.
Last time I checked you couldn't mute people on Mumble :/ This must be a recent (<1 year) feature.
Anyway they're all kinda the same. From the server point of view, I only installed a TS3 server, and I can tell you it's very easy (5 minutes or so, up to 512 people).
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Ive been using mumble for around 2 years and im quite sure you were able to mute someone when i started using it. An admin can mute someone so noone can hear him or a normal user can local mute someone so only he doesnt hear the muted one.
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I've been using mumble for games for the last 2 years and i prefer it over skype. I like the PTT feature, Overlay customization ofc, but having multiple channel and being able to jump in the SC2 channel and ask if someone is available when we are lacking a last player for LoL, or just staying in the general discution discussiong skyrim waiting for my buddy to finish his game.
Maybe i havent used skype enough, but i dont think it has the same flexibility as a Mumble/Vent/TS3 server...
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Skype always. All other programs have shitty sound quality and longer delay on speech than Skype.
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You aren't serious are you?
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seriously, the sound quality you get with program X is related to the codec the server uses rather than the program you are using.
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On November 14 2011 20:07 daemir wrote:
seriously, the sound quality you get with program X is related to the codec the server uses rather than the program you are using.
I have never heard Ventrilo or TS sound as good as Skype. It sounds horrible for everyone that uses Vent on streams and every time I listen to the quality of someone that claims their Vent sounds as good as Skype it's still the same annoying static, someone with a helicopter in the background and so on. Skype doesn't need any configuration and sounds excellent 99% of the time which makes it very convenient. The only issues Skype really have aside from the UI is the lack of channels and limits on how many can be in a call and so on. The sound quality is vastly superior though. People say that Vent can be configured to sound good but no server I've ever been on or heard on a stream have sounded better than the other, all are the same.
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Always have preferred ventrilo since I started using voicecom. Less shit to move around and just the core essential functionality you need. I also find mumble to have terrible sound quality in comparison, but I might have just been unlucky.
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Mumble is better than both.
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I dont know which servers you have been on, but the mumble server i hang out on has excellent audio quality. Not even comparable to vent or skype. The few ts3 servers ive been on have been pretty good also. Imo mumble is also easier to use because of the audio wizard, which is a quick guide to setup your mic and the sensitivity etc.
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mumble uses the same codec as ventrilo...
my vent server is set to 10 quality 32khz which is as high as it will go, I'd be surprised if mumble sounded significantly better.
vent is definitely more microphone dependent than skype though. when everyone has a decent mic it sounds good. otherwise it can be a bit tough.
one thing that sucks about skype though is that you cant turn up or down individual people and everyone complains Im too quiet even with mic volume maxed, boost on and my skype output volume maxed. people dont seem to have this issue with ventrilo.
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I prefer ts and skype over vent. Vent has this annoying beeping sound when you start talking. I'm not familiar enough with the softwere to disable it. I used to use ptt, but got so used to voice activation from skype that I would never want to go back to ptt.
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I don't know how anyone can use anything but Skype especially in games like WoW and SC2 where keybindings are limited. In League it may work but every server I join delays signifigantly more than skype and thats with me running at 10 ~ ping.
Skype is my prefered, even for WoW raiding, our entire 10man guild will use it to raid and you will not hear any background noise. If your finding time in SC2 to hold PTT then teach me your ways please...
League as I said may work but I can not stand push to talk.
Also I used to be a long time ventrilo user to the point where in my computer classes I sometimes caught myself holding my PTT key while chatting in real life -.-
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I only use skype because its free, the call quality is fine and I only use it with friends.
Not gonna use anything that requires payment when its just me and a few friends, and skype is also super uncomplicated.
I've always hated vent. Really badly designed UI for someone who hasn't already used it for a long time and the sound quality is abysmal.
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Prefer Skype. Vent and TS3 arent bad but im just too accustomed to no PTT. My mic has a on/off button so im covered
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On November 15 2011 00:08 red_b wrote:
mumble uses the same codec as ventrilo...
Mumble is capable of using the same codecs as ventrilo. Not all servers use the same codec - as such, some mumble/ventrilo servers have notably better sound quality than others.
I'm finding it hard to believe that skype's codec sounds better than most of the baseline codecs for mumble/vent though. To me, it sounds pretty bad.
PTT button for all games = side mouse button - who uses that shit for anything ingame? It doesn't even mesh with the way my hands are mentally wired... But I find myself holding my side mouse button down when talking on skype too - kinda silly of me.
And mumble has good configurations for no-PTT. I'm really not a fan of the always-on of skype, but you can do that too in either, it's just not the default because it means everyone's a fucking mouth-breather, which is much more of a problem when you have 10+ people in a channel than it is on skype with a 3-5 person conversation.
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Vent is the worst simply because of the shitty ass beep noises. Even if you turn yours off you can hear other peoples when they push their buttons. Sounds like dogshit.
I only play with 4 other people at the most for any game anymore so I only use skype. It's free, and it's easy to use. Who gives a shit about anything else.
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On November 22 2011 14:10 Cytokinesis wrote:
Vent is the worst simply because of the shitty ass beep noises. Even if you turn yours off you can hear other peoples when they push their buttons. Sounds like dogshit.
I only play with 4 other people at the most for any game anymore so I only use skype. It's free, and it's easy to use. Who gives a shit about anything else.
don't play with people who use speakers and a mic  then u won't hear their sounds either
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Wow so many people complaining something is bad when a) they can't configure to program to work proper (srsly that beeping sound is like 1 tick in the options) or b) they play with people who can't
funny thread nonetheless.
and vent, ts and mumble can also work on voice activation just like skype so I really don't get this hate towards PTT when you can turn it off >_>
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United Kingdom20285 Posts
Skype gets ugly if 1 person lags, can disable the whole call etc. TS/Vent/Mumble have the channels, the ability to move/kick people, the ability for them to log on and join without alt tabbing the entire conversation out of sc2 in the middle of a marine/sentry vs ling bane push, and out of the 3 mumble performs the best i believe.
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I prefer skype but Teamspeak is ok. Ventrilos PTT silence recognition is horrendous.
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