• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:49
CEST 15:49
KST 22:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0
StarCraft 2
General
Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Updates to The Core/Core Lite for v5.0.16? RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 2026
Tourneys
GSL CK #4 20-21th June Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Where is EffOrt? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Beyond All Reason Total War: Warhammer 40K
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8343 users

[Patch 1.0.0.128: Shyvana] General Discussion - Page 177

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 175 176 177 178 179 187 Next
Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 14 2011 04:30 GMT
#3521
On November 14 2011 13:16 UniversalSnip wrote:
It's not malz patch because I wasn't playing when malz was introduced, and it had the effect when I started.

Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 13:11 TheYango wrote:
On November 14 2011 13:03 UniversalSnip wrote:
Didn't executioner's calling used to deal like 8 damage over 4 seconds on hit or something? Am I just going crazy? I remember an effect like that existing.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Executioner's_Calling

Look at the patch notes. It used to do that, but it looks like the DoT effect got removed at some point (though I'm not exactly sure when).


The removal isn't on lol-patch either. Fucking weird.

According to some posts on the forums, as of last month, it was just a topltip bug, and the DoT was still in game. Not sure whether that's changed.
Moderator
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 07:45:22
November 14 2011 05:08 GMT
#3522
On November 14 2011 09:20 unichan wrote:
epik beat unichan gg

Is this the game you're talking about? If not still relevant.
+ Show Spoiler +
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
November 14 2011 05:51 GMT
#3523
http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0

Someone made a season 2 mastery planner.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 06:26:14
November 14 2011 06:19 GMT
#3524
This is prob what I'll run for ap carries (21/0/9):
http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=1-0-3-0-0-4-0-0-0-1-3-0-0-4-0-4-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-3-0-1-3-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0

Junglers: 0/21/9:
http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-2-2-0-3-0-0-3-1-0-2-3-3-0-1-1-0-3-0-4-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0

AD Carry: 21/0/9
http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=1-3-0-2-4-0-0-0-1-0-3-0-3-0-3-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-3-0-4-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0

Possibly pick up a point in demolitionist.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 14 2011 06:20 GMT
#3525
That Mastery planner just showed me that you need to grab aspeed to get %armpen. Riot REALLY hates ad casters.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 06:26:46
November 14 2011 06:23 GMT
#3526
On November 14 2011 15:19 Craton wrote:
This is prob what I'll run for ap carries:
http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=1-0-3-0-0-4-0-0-0-1-3-0-0-4-0-4-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-3-0-2-3-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0

21/0/9

I would most definitely trade 0.5% MS or 1 mp5 for 20% buff duration.

Hell, 15% buff duration/point is probably better than 1% MS or 1 mp5 per point right now. They made buff duration better and the MS mastery worse, so its a no-brainer.
Moderator
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 06:29:13
November 14 2011 06:23 GMT
#3527
assuming 21-0-9 will be the new way of the caster, i think this is the most optimal
+ Show Spoiler +
http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=1-0-3-0-0-4-0-0-0-1-3-0-0-4-0-4-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-3-1-0-4-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0

In what case would you go 9-0-21 for ap casters anymore?
+ Show Spoiler +
http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=1-0-3-0-0-4-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-3-0-4-3-0-0-3-1-0-2-0-0-3-1
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 06:28:12
November 14 2011 06:27 GMT
#3528
Optimal akali

+ Show Spoiler +
http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=1-3-3-0-0-4-0-0-0-1-3-0-3-4-3-4-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 06:28:32
November 14 2011 06:28 GMT
#3529
wtf how do you jungle now when xp mastery is 16points in utility?

seems like such a gimp >.<
boomer hands
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 14 2011 06:28 GMT
#3530
With the new planner, it makes sense to have a thread specific for theorycrafting. Keep mastery ideas in that thread.

Thanks.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 06:29:09
November 14 2011 06:28 GMT
#3531
edit: moved to the other thread
Moderator
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 06:32:44
November 14 2011 06:28 GMT
#3532
I really dunno what I'm gonna do with renekton. Want arp but aspd so useless on Renekton. Mpen isn't bad for his ult with the CDR pre-req, but I dunno that it's worth not getting arp.

http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=1-3-0-0-4-4-0-0-1-1-3-0-0-0-3-0-1-0-0-3-2-0-3-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0

Bottom 9 of utility is real useless for non-resource champions. Bottom 9 of defensive is pretty bland for laning. I dunno if bladed armor would be even slightly useful for early laning, but the only alternative is 1% less from aoe damage.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
November 14 2011 06:30 GMT
#3533
On November 14 2011 15:28 seRapH wrote:
wtf how do you jungle now when xp mastery is 16points in utility?

seems like such a gimp >.<



Go 11 points defensive and get DBC for everyone. That's my plan atleast.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
November 14 2011 06:31 GMT
#3534
On November 14 2011 15:30 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 15:28 seRapH wrote:
wtf how do you jungle now when xp mastery is 16points in utility?

seems like such a gimp >.<



Go 11 points defensive and get DBC for everyone. That's my plan atleast.

It's amazing that this question has been answered on every LoL site in existence at least 50 times and it still gets asked.
twitch.tv/cratonz
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 14 2011 06:32 GMT
#3535
On November 14 2011 15:31 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 15:30 Cixah wrote:
On November 14 2011 15:28 seRapH wrote:
wtf how do you jungle now when xp mastery is 16points in utility?

seems like such a gimp >.<



Go 11 points defensive and get DBC for everyone. That's my plan atleast.

It's amazing that this question has been answered on every LoL site in existence at least 50 times and it still gets asked.


srsly... >_>
I'll probably make a note about it in the mastery thread.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 14 2011 06:38 GMT
#3536
On November 14 2011 15:28 seRapH wrote:
wtf how do you jungle now when xp mastery is 16points in utility?

seems like such a gimp >.<

They already said they're boosting the XP gain on jungle camps so you hit the corresponding level breakpoints without needing the XP masteries.
Moderator
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
November 14 2011 06:38 GMT
#3537
Definitely going max move speed build at least once for kicks.
twitch.tv/cratonz
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
November 14 2011 07:15 GMT
#3538
movespeed rammus
GANDHISAUCE
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 14 2011 07:23 GMT
#3539
movespeed garen
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
November 14 2011 07:40 GMT
#3540


Singed+Zilean bot. New meta confirmed.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Prev 1 175 176 177 178 179 187 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
#12
IntoTheiNu 948
RotterdaM667
WardiTV661
TKL 304
Rex156
SteadfastSC147
Ryung 145
CosmosSc2 65
EnkiAlexander 31
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 667
TKL 304
Rex 156
SteadfastSC 147
Ryung 145
CosmosSc2 65
Railgan 54
RushiSC 19
trigger 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3218
Shuttle 1694
Horang2 1064
BeSt 982
Mini 891
EffOrt 746
Soulkey 744
Light 515
Snow 365
ggaemo 246
[ Show more ]
hero 231
Sharp 202
Mong 173
Zeus 88
Leta 71
Last 51
ToSsGirL 50
[sc1f]eonzerg 41
Movie 39
JYJ 36
Aegong 27
sorry 25
Free 20
Backho 19
NaDa 19
GoRush 18
Sacsri 16
scan(afreeca) 16
Terrorterran 14
zelot 13
IntoTheRainbow 13
soO 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Noble 7
Rock 4
Icarus 4
Dota 2
Dendi1609
qojqva497
XcaliburYe259
syndereN139
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2080
byalli290
kRYSTAL_44
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King114
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr17
Other Games
B2W.Neo834
hiko704
Lowko513
crisheroes310
DeMusliM264
Pyrionflax237
XaKoH 207
Sick177
mouzStarbuck124
QueenE60
Dewaltoss19
ArmadaUGS0
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream7551
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream0
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2009
• TFBlade612
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
20h 11m
WardiTV Spring Champion…
21h 11m
OSC
23h 11m
OSC
1d 10h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 20h
WardiTV Spring Champion…
1d 21h
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
GSL
2 days
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Reynor
herO vs Lambo
Solar vs Clem
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
GSL
3 days
Patches Events
4 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-16
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.