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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 19:25:05
November 08 2011 19:24 GMT
#2301
On November 09 2011 04:21 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 04:12 Juicyfruit wrote:
Is the whole of Europe represented by 1 team or what?

Of course. Europe is a single country after all.

Thats what I thought. Unfair imo, if the US gets 2 teams then Europe should get 2 teams too.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 08 2011 19:29 GMT
#2302
Stop whining, Jesus. CDE gets to go ONLY BECAUSE WCG fucked them over. Anyone saying it's "unfair" is ignoring the circumstances. Obviously it's not Riot just going "US gets 2 teams and everyone else only gets one, huehuehue." Come on.

It's either people in general are impossible to please or I'm getting trolled.
Writer@WriterYamato
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 08 2011 19:29 GMT
#2303
On November 09 2011 04:29 yamato77 wrote:
Stop whining, Jesus. CDE gets to go ONLY BECAUSE WCG fucked them over. Anyone saying it's "unfair" is ignoring the circumstances. Obviously it's not Riot just going "US gets 2 teams and everyone else only gets one, huehuehue." Come on.

It's either people in general are impossible to please or I'm getting trolled.

You're getting trolled.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
November 08 2011 19:30 GMT
#2304


Cho'Gath, wut u doin there?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 19:39:13
November 08 2011 19:35 GMT
#2305
On November 09 2011 04:29 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 04:29 yamato77 wrote:
Stop whining, Jesus. CDE gets to go ONLY BECAUSE WCG fucked them over. Anyone saying it's "unfair" is ignoring the circumstances. Obviously it's not Riot just going "US gets 2 teams and everyone else only gets one, huehuehue." Come on.

It's either people in general are impossible to please or I'm getting trolled.

You're getting trolled.

idk, Hynda seemed pretty serious. Maybe I missed the sarcasm.

EDIT:
On November 09 2011 04:00 Hynda wrote:
the decision makin from riots side is just hillariously bad. Instead of just screwing up the American side they now decide to screw everyone else over aswell. While I love CDE as much as everyone else, if I was on in any other team I would be pretty pissed atm.


EDIT 2:
I knew it!
Writer@WriterYamato
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
November 08 2011 19:35 GMT
#2306
On November 09 2011 03:07 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 02:56 rigwarl wrote:
Considering the size of LoL in the US, I don't think it's too unfair (although some ppl may definitely think so)>


Europe's player base is larger (we even have 2 realms ya know, for the exact reason that Europe's player base is so much bigger than US).

But I'm not hating, I'm happy for CDE, and they deserve to go to Korea after the shitty treatment by WCG. If this shit had happened with the EU qualifiers, people would have demanded the same.

And I'm really happy for Dyrus, the guy was so happy when he though he was going to Korea.

I dunno, you're not REALLY happy about going to korea until you're THIS happy about going to korea:

Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
November 08 2011 19:37 GMT
#2307
On November 09 2011 04:29 yamato77 wrote:
"US gets 2 teams and everyone else only gets one, huehuehue."

Yes it is. I don't see how you can get it to anything else. "We screwed this team over, so now we are going to screw you over to try to fix our relations with that team". I don't know if you've played sports on a competative level, but I have and if suddenly one team got a free ride (regardless of which of CDE and Dignitas you feel is getting the free ride) it would be an outrage.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
November 08 2011 19:41 GMT
#2308
Maybe. But it's still the better alternative.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
November 08 2011 19:42 GMT
#2309
I thought the only criteria for # of WCG teams was "The number the local sponsor is willing to pay for."?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 19:45:31
November 08 2011 19:43 GMT
#2310
On November 09 2011 04:37 Hynda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 04:29 yamato77 wrote:
"US gets 2 teams and everyone else only gets one, huehuehue."

Yes it is. I don't see how you can get it to anything else. "We screwed this team over, so now we are going to screw you over to try to fix our relations with that team". I don't know if you've played sports on a competative level, but I have and if suddenly one team got a free ride (regardless of which of CDE and Dignitas you feel is getting the free ride) it would be an outrage.

It's not really screwing anyone over unless you are a tried and true patriot. Also, as cited before, WCG has allowed disproportionate numbers of participants from the same country in other events before. The question shouldn't even be "Is this unfair to everyone else?" when the discussion is about what happened to CDE. Riot made the best decision they could to fix an awful blunder by WCG/Marcou. Obviously CDE earned their way though once in what they thought was the official way, and then Dignitas earned theirs in the "rematch". It's not really fair to send one while the other stays in the U.S.

If anyone from another country honestly can look at this situation and see U.S. favoritism, they've lost their perspective. Perhaps it's an "advantage for the U.S." in that we have 2 teams, but honestly, I'm not rooting for my country, I'm rooting for CDE. I'm sure it's that way for a lot of people.
Writer@WriterYamato
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
November 08 2011 19:44 GMT
#2311
wait, so Canada has their team, US has 2 teams and all of Eu has 1 team?

Do we look too small on the worldmap or what?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 08 2011 19:47 GMT
#2312
On November 09 2011 04:35 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 03:07 Doctorbeat wrote:
On November 09 2011 02:56 rigwarl wrote:
Considering the size of LoL in the US, I don't think it's too unfair (although some ppl may definitely think so)>


Europe's player base is larger (we even have 2 realms ya know, for the exact reason that Europe's player base is so much bigger than US).

But I'm not hating, I'm happy for CDE, and they deserve to go to Korea after the shitty treatment by WCG. If this shit had happened with the EU qualifiers, people would have demanded the same.

And I'm really happy for Dyrus, the guy was so happy when he though he was going to Korea.

I dunno, you're not REALLY happy about going to korea until you're THIS happy about going to korea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juW0pHRF3V4

qxc is a total boss. Total US Terran hero.
It's your boy Guzma!
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 08 2011 19:48 GMT
#2313
On November 09 2011 04:44 LaNague wrote:
wait, so Canada has their team, US has 2 teams and all of Eu has 1 team?

Do we look too small on the worldmap or what?

That was the bit I was assuming everyone was trolling about. Each EU country that wants one gets their own team. Hence the Germany qualifiers at gamescom or w/e.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2570 Posts
November 08 2011 19:48 GMT
#2314
On November 09 2011 04:44 LaNague wrote:
wait, so Canada has their team, US has 2 teams and all of Eu has 1 team?

Do we look too small on the worldmap or what?


yes, eu only gets one team since they're one country.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
November 08 2011 19:48 GMT
#2315
On November 09 2011 04:44 LaNague wrote:
wait, so Canada has their team, US has 2 teams and all of Eu has 1 team?

Do we look too small on the worldmap or what?

I thought we made a QQ thread to keep this out of general discussion. CDE deserves to go.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
November 08 2011 19:49 GMT
#2316
Each country in the EU should be able to send a team but who knows if they are sending their team. I remember reading about Germany, France, and Sweden all holding qualifiers at some point but I don't know which teams qualified.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 19:53:49
November 08 2011 19:49 GMT
#2317
On November 09 2011 04:44 LaNague wrote:
wait, so Canada has their team, US has 2 teams and all of Eu has 1 team?

Do we look too small on the worldmap or what?

EU has 1 team per participating country. I'm not sure how many are participating, but there are confirmed qualified teams for UK, Germany, and France (according to SK-gaming.com news posts).

EDIT: Shouldn't Spain have enough strong players to field a competitive team? Did the local WCG organization just not hold a qualifier?
Moderator
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 19:54:49
November 08 2011 19:52 GMT
#2318
ok nervemind then, why are people spreading false information then. I am not used to trolls on TL too much.



also, fyi because i just read it: the 2 Eu servers are in the exact same place. The split was because of sheer user numbers and not to decrease east EU latency.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 08 2011 19:53 GMT
#2319
Sarcasm does not carry through the internet well.

Not to get too deep into the whole "Americans are stupid and dont get anything when it comes to Europe" thing, I thought it was pretty obvious that the "Oh ya, since Europe is 1 country, they get one qualifier" was sarcastic.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 19:57:16
November 08 2011 19:56 GMT
#2320
On November 09 2011 04:43 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 04:37 Hynda wrote:
On November 09 2011 04:29 yamato77 wrote:
"US gets 2 teams and everyone else only gets one, huehuehue."

Yes it is. I don't see how you can get it to anything else. "We screwed this team over, so now we are going to screw you over to try to fix our relations with that team". I don't know if you've played sports on a competative level, but I have and if suddenly one team got a free ride (regardless of which of CDE and Dignitas you feel is getting the free ride) it would be an outrage.

It's not really screwing anyone over unless you are a tried and true patriot. Also, as cited before, WCG has allowed disproportionate numbers of participants from the same country in other events before. The question shouldn't even be "Is this unfair to everyone else?" when the discussion is about what happened to CDE. Riot made the best decision they could to fix an awful blunder by WCG/Marcou. Obviously CDE earned their way though once in what they thought was the official way, and then Dignitas earned theirs in the "rematch". It's not really fair to send one while the other stays in the U.S.

If anyone from another country honestly can look at this situation and see U.S. favoritism, they've lost their perspective. Perhaps it's an "advantage for the U.S." in that we have 2 teams, but honestly, I'm not rooting for my country, I'm rooting for CDE. I'm sure it's that way for a lot of people.

That's the thing. They didn't. I love CDE I feel I need to state this, over and over. according to the rules they didn't earn it, they just played under false pretences. is it horse-shit that it could happen? Yes, is it a horrible, horrible way of running a tourney, yes. Retroactivly changing the rules, is the worst thing you could possibly to do to keep integrity. And that is what they are doing now. People act as if the way CDE won was ever stated in the rules, and it wasn't. It was just the pay people believed would be the rules, but it was never part of the rules.

and saying that Dignitas should have just thrown the game cause they followed the rules is bullshit, learn to play professionally.
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