EPTThis is because a lot of us work very hard to get the kill on a minion only to have it stolen by a greedy, heartless useless minion that is going to die anyways. Also, in the laning phase, many of us like to "last hit" minions for the gold. This is unfair to the regular minions as they worked hard to whittle down that minion to a tiny amount of hp only to have a big champion steal that minion kill from them. Also, it would make the problem of assholes coming into your lane to steal your cs a lot more bearable. Leashers for junglers would also be rewarded for their kind efforts in aiding their jungler.
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
This is because a lot of us work very hard to get the kill on a minion only to have it stolen by a greedy, heartless useless minion that is going to die anyways. Also, in the laning phase, many of us like to "last hit" minions for the gold. This is unfair to the regular minions as they worked hard to whittle down that minion to a tiny amount of hp only to have a big champion steal that minion kill from them. Also, it would make the problem of assholes coming into your lane to steal your cs a lot more bearable. Leashers for junglers would also be rewarded for their kind efforts in aiding their jungler. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On October 24 2011 02:30 travis wrote: So whats the assessment? Graves big time OP? I'd say so, yes. Good mobility, good stereoid, good burst for laning, good survivability. Significant AoE damage. Smoke Grenade is amazing. I'd say definitely better than Cait, but Kog still deals more damage. However, Kog has WAY less survivability in the form of stats/escapes. Not too sure yet how he compares to Vayne. | ||
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
bragtime: + Show Spoiler + just hit season 2 gold, gotta take a break from ranked before I forget how to play other champs ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iedh9.png) jaxjaxjaxjaxjax | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 24 2011 01:22 Zdrastochye wrote: Just stack jitb and use clone to tank? Seems not enough damage. Enough dmg with bluebuff as you can stack 9 boxes, also ignite and smite On October 24 2011 02:15 Frolossus wrote: isn't it a lot more reasonable to drag mid or top up to baron to help you with it then risk getting caught while setting up? um they should help yes but you still need to setup | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On October 24 2011 03:22 Flakes wrote: If they balanced minion gold around an assist pool, then it would be even easier to steal gold from a lanemate, as you wouldn't even need to lasthit minions, you could just spam abilities on them. bragtime: + Show Spoiler + just hit season 2 gold, gotta take a break from ranked before I forget how to play other champs jaxjaxjaxjaxjax Warwick clearly UP | ||
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Zenithal
United States142 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
Would be gutted if I buy him now and than 2 weeks later he drops to half the price. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On October 24 2011 03:41 TheKefka wrote: Just a quick question do you guys think trundle might get a IP price drop soon? Would be gutted if I buy him now and than 2 weeks later he drops to half the price. Not in a long long looooooooooooooooooooong long time, he's one of the newer champs and he's also 4800iirc. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On October 24 2011 03:41 TheKefka wrote: Just a quick question do you guys think trundle might get a IP price drop soon? Would be gutted if I buy him now and than 2 weeks later he drops to half the price. Nope. Trundle was just released under a year ago. Won't be seeing an IP drop anytime soon. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On October 24 2011 03:00 unichan wrote: My genius friend Tony, aka "Brian Morrison" or "eugenital", has proposed a genius idea. You should get MINION ASSISTS, or gold for assisting a minion kill. This is because a lot of us work very hard to get the kill on a minion only to have it stolen by a greedy, heartless useless minion that is going to die anyways. Also, in the laning phase, many of us like to "last hit" minions for the gold. This is unfair to the regular minions as they worked hard to whittle down that minion to a tiny amount of hp only to have a big champion steal that minion kill from them. Also, it would make the problem of assholes coming into your lane to steal your cs a lot more bearable. Leashers for junglers would also be rewarded for their kind efforts in aiding their jungler. the idea of creep gold getting automatically split in a duo lane is not a new one. Personally i like it, the main reason i don't want to duo anything but support + x is that i hate competing for farm with my lanemate. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On October 24 2011 03:40 Zenithal wrote: Finally managed to save up 6300 IP without spending any of it (a problem for me >.<), and want to get either Vayne or Graves. Who should I go for? It's either ask here or flip a coin. Graves imo | ||
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Zenithal
United States142 Posts
Yeah, I think he's stronger right now, but everyone says he should get a nerf. I don't want to pick him up then have him suck after the next patch D: | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On October 24 2011 03:49 JackDino wrote: Vayne still does more dmg than any other carry without farm:p Is that why Tyler plays her? + Show Spoiler + jk jk don't shoot plz | ||
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Zenithal
United States142 Posts
On October 24 2011 03:49 JackDino wrote: Vayne still does more dmg than any other carry without farm:p And with farm? | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
He's gonna get a numbers nerf soon, or Riot's just fucking retarded. But atm, Graves > Vayne imo. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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gnutz
Germany666 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On October 24 2011 04:10 gnutz wrote: Graves will have the same thing as Lee Sin: It doesn't matter how much you nerf him (if you don't nerf him like Eve), he will every time be OP, because he has that ridiculous OP Skillset. I don't really agree,like leesin you just have to nerf the stats on his skills,shorter range,weaker burst,shorter duration on W or smaller radius or no damage. It's easier to fix by "toning" down all the skills than doing major changes to the character that is well rounded. Like leesin should be jack of all trades master of none and I don't really have a problem with that. | ||
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