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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 05 2011 15:35 GMT
#221
Lux is like never used though so that's not really a fair thing to say:p, and it was also said before they saw wukong ingame.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
October 05 2011 15:38 GMT
#222
Lux is really fun to play IMO. I just don't have her yet

She plays like a non-OP Morgana with lasers.
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isM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States735 Posts
October 05 2011 15:38 GMT
#223
Xerath was pretty fun, his siege mode is really hard to find a place for though after 1 game.
Loose lips sink ships
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 05 2011 15:41 GMT
#224
Lux is really good when well played. Using her passive to burst is good, her range is pretty huge, and her Ult is just damn, damn good.

I mean, I suck with her, but good Lux players are good
It's your boy Guzma!
Tsuke
Profile Joined June 2010
United States52 Posts
October 05 2011 15:42 GMT
#225
Do mastery pages get deleted when switching between servers? Was on Eu during downtime, come back to US now and my pages are gone.
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
October 05 2011 15:44 GMT
#226
Mastery pages are client sided. If you switched computers they would be reset.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 05 2011 15:45 GMT
#227
I have different pages for both EU and US, nothing gets lost when swapping.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
October 05 2011 15:50 GMT
#228
On October 06 2011 00:38 tyCe wrote:
Lux is really fun to play IMO. I just don't have her yet

She plays like a non-OP Morgana with lasers.


she doesnt play like morgana at all <.<
And all is illuminated.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 15:52:39
October 05 2011 15:52 GMT
#229
Xerath seems like he'll be good for "ganking" sidelanes. Siege behind tower, 2v2 laners get in a scuffle. RRRQ when enemy duo is over-committed, collect double kill.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
October 05 2011 15:55 GMT
#230
To all the people who claim "Riven secret Irelia opop" - how do people build her atm? Wanna play around with her in freeweek and see if I buy Talon, Riven or Xerath next. :>
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
October 05 2011 15:57 GMT
#231
xeraths lvl 3 ult: 275 base damage/blast (3 blasts) and 0.6 ap ratio means you get about 1300+ damage with void and dcap considering you get 30%+40% magicpen which is almost pure damage.
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STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 05 2011 15:58 GMT
#232
On October 06 2011 00:23 Mogwai wrote:
unless I'm mistaken, 9/0/21 with a void staff and level 5 W = 64.3% MPen.


Yeah that's pretty crazy, since it's not like he has to go out of his way to get to that point, what AP carry doesn't buy Void Staff? He's going to hit so hard late game with that extra MPen compared to other AP champs and his passive will help to protect him from the guys who can threaten him the most.

Deathcap -> Void Staff -> Abyssal Scepter -> Rylai's going to be core, if not necessarily in that order.
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mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
October 05 2011 16:00 GMT
#233
On October 06 2011 00:55 r.Evo wrote:
To all the people who claim "Riven secret Irelia opop" - how do people build her atm? Wanna play around with her in freeweek and see if I buy Talon, Riven or Xerath next. :>

This, please, I've been playing her quite a bit since she's free this week and she's really fun but I don't know what to build and there is no champion thread for here in TL.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 05 2011 16:01 GMT
#234
Abyssal seems so retarded on him. When the fuck is your target going to be close enough to have the aura on them?
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 05 2011 16:02 GMT
#235
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=6727 Guess this is a good place to start.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 05 2011 16:05 GMT
#236
On October 06 2011 00:55 r.Evo wrote:
To all the people who claim "Riven secret Irelia opop" - how do people build her atm? Wanna play around with her in freeweek and see if I buy Talon, Riven or Xerath next. :>

Best not play her if you're on mah team >:|

But yeah, build her bruiser style, I find is the best. DBlade start > boots > DBlade (can maybe skip this one) > Boots2 > Bruta > AtMog's > Ghostblade > whatever. Works pretty well, a bit of a power dip while building AtMog's, but not too bad.

I've been wanting to try some new builds, but free week means so many bad instalocks

I've been thinking DBlade > Boots > DBlade > Boots2 > Phage > Atma's > FMallet > Ghostblade. A bit tankier, but AtMallet is pretty good in it's own right.

The thing about Riven is this: you scale off AD better than nearly any other bruiser type, thanks to your passive, all your abilities, and the crazy good Ult. So, you generally don't need as much AD as, say, Garen, Wukong, or Trynd, just because you get so much more out of it. You can afford to build a bit more tanky and still do damage.

Jungling is viable with pretty much the same build, but you have to start wolves unless you have help with blue. Ganks early are good at nearly any level, but you have very low jungle sustain.

As a side note, I'm still iffy about Wriggle's. It's very situational. Nice if you're getting bullied in your lane and need early defensiveness/lifesteal, and the ward is cool, but if you're even or winning your lane, it just doesn't feel worth the large cost.
It's your boy Guzma!
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
October 05 2011 16:10 GMT
#237
Hmm the new champ looks pretty powerfull... Not sure how his ratios are going to pan out but he looks like an improved Brand basically ^^ I'm still waiting for Animal Trundle (muppet drummer for the pentakill band!). I hate the current trundle skins =(
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 16:18:49
October 05 2011 16:13 GMT
#238
Wriggle's is just straight up better than DBlades on Riven, IMO. She has high base HP and mediocre base armor, as well as effectively getting HP from AD. The stat mix on Wriggle's is superior for her.

Atmogs/Atmallet seems silly on her the same reason it is on Jax. Yeah it's cost-effective, but it really doesn't *fit* her. Again, she gets HP value from AD, so its stupid to build an item that's all HP on her first. Ghostblade on the other hand, feels like too much money in the wrong place. She's a late-game hard carry, buying a midgame DPS item like Bruta is just treating her the wrong way, and the GB active does nothing for her

Just build her like a Jax that only benefits from AD instead of hybrid items. Bloodthirster as you first big damage item. GA/QSS as your core survivability items. IE/LW to round out as secondary damage items. As far as her role, her lategame as a melee carry is potentially stronger than Jax, because she has similar free survivability, more AoE damage, and effectively gets 1.8 AD and 3-5 HP out of every 1 AD she actually buys.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 16:19:49
October 05 2011 16:17 GMT
#239
If you get caught in cc your effective hp is useless, if it's on cd it's useless aswell.
Jax gets actual hp from AD, he can heal up, when riven's E is on cd it does nothing at all for her, saying you shouldn't get HP on her and comparing her to jax is kinda dumb.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 16:24:54
October 05 2011 16:21 GMT
#240
On October 06 2011 01:17 JackDino wrote:
If you get caught in cc your effective hp is useless, if it's on cd it's useless aswell.

Even if you get CCed, you're still going to get to pre-charge an E at the start of a fight unless you get caught out stupidly, once more before you die, and once when you stand up after GA. AT WORST the rate of AD->effective HP conversion through Valor is still just as good as Jax's passive, and will very often be much better. It's not like people can afford to wait for Valor to fall off every time you pop it, given her absurd damage potential.
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