EPT[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 4
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
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OscarN
Cape Verde292 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 14 2011 12:16 Qualm wrote: Yes, but the change means that there is currently no way of knowing if you are about to facecheck into a stack of boxes other than seeing Shaco plant them or having a pink ward in the exact brush they happen to be in. The change says that they're immune to damage, not that they have no collision/spellhit. Presumably this means that they still get hit by skillshots that you'd check brushes with before--they just won't damage the boxes. | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
Shen's kit has been problematic since they so thoroughly nerfed randuin's and sunfire. He doesn't have any items to call his own. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
This episode: Talon. I loved his kit when I saw him first but was hesitating to buy him when he came out. My impression: Huge burst, huge single target damage, huge AoE and his biggest Nuke is Nuke+Mobility+2nd Nuke. He has to be OP. After clearly and scientificly establishing that he has to be OP just by pure numbers (#1 theoryraft) I started playing him, expecting to rape. His laning to me, however, feels like a weak-ass version of panth (aka falls off quickly) with no cool passive. Aka: Batshit stupid weak. Current run: 21 0 9, ArPen reds, AD quints, Armor yellows, scaling mres blues. Nothing major. DBlade opening does not work. It just doesn't. Boots is cool, but I'm not that happy with it. Current plan: Start Cloth+5, get wriggles, farm all day, win game. (Dude can nuke carries better than akali if farmed. For real.) Current item ideas: Wriggles -> BT/Gunblade (if it works on panth, it has to work even better on Talon) -> Frozen Mallet as core. I went for GB/B+Shurelyas one game and it felt awesome. Need to find a way to get more CDR into current core build when I can't skip mercs. After next patch I think Wriggles -> Philo -> CDR boots+eleisas are the way to go. tl;dr: Share your thoughts about talon and about his "How to not get terribly shit on top lane"-problem. If you don't get shit on top lane, tell me wtf ur doing. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On September 14 2011 11:14 r.Evo wrote: -Rammus secretly OP now, you heard it here first. On September 14 2011 11:28 red_ wrote: Rammus maybe OP now, his 2nd+ jungle clear was always his problem(1st is hella fast), DBC actually having decent damage scaling now though might fix that(but then you take DBC instead of taunt for duration...) Rammus' lategame is still shit, which is the most glaring weakness of the champion. Definitely not OP after these changes, mid-tier at most. | ||
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iDiablo
United States26 Posts
On September 14 2011 11:03 Southlight wrote: Thank god for Rammus fix, now he's playable again ~_~ lol? rammus was always playable in fact rammus has always been one of the best tanks in the game | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7583 Posts
Kass still bad. Good brand nerf, and probably Ori nerf. | ||
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
On September 14 2011 12:16 Qualm wrote: Yes, but the change means that there is currently no way of knowing if you are about to facecheck into a stack of boxes other than seeing Shaco plant them or having a pink ward in the exact brush they happen to be in. Oracles won't work since it doesn't grant true vision in brushes if you get regular vision of them otherwise. In other words, Shaco is now god-mode jungle/dragon control. You mean in other words, Shaco can finally do what he's supposed to be able to do. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
But uh, Taric jungle/solo looks so scary judging from these notes. Shen's gonna be back at the top. Overall a very good patch imo. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
On September 14 2011 12:46 Chrispy wrote: Shen's gonna be back at the top. You think solo top AP shen or something? | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On September 14 2011 12:39 iDiablo wrote: lol? rammus was always playable in fact rammus has always been one of the best tanks in the game he's been terrible for a while, I'm not sure where you are getting the idea rammus was strong | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On September 14 2011 12:48 HazMat wrote: Everyone is doing the jatt wits end rush pheonix udyr build now it seems. I've been using that build for weeks. I think it's on the pro guides at mobafire, as well. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Wait, by amazing I mean the most nonsensical random buffs of all time. "Let's make slash hit harder and his E faster! That'll fix him!" Wat. And what was the point of nerfing Brand's E range? It's not like it's strength came from the range. And lol at the 5 damage nerf. | ||
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Cytokinesis
Canada330 Posts
Kassadin: Jungle Kassadin signifcantly better. I don't think many people realize but Kass is an okay jungler, now he will be better. Mordekaiser: Really? Really? So does his E add a larger flat amount now? It doesn't say so, and if not he is going to be so weak early. Orianna: Good Rammus: Woo gives a shit. Even though he's my troll champion and I HAVE NEVER LOST A GAME AS RAMMUS these changes still don't do jack shit. Shaco: Awesome. Might play him more now. Shen: Give me a break. Still a huge piece of shit. Buff's don't do anything. Only that matters is his ult now being 0 energy, which is good, but the rest is a joke. Sion: Good Taric: Wow. Hello new #1 Jungle. As if you weren't already, now this is a spicy meatball... Vlad: Who gives a shit. And thus has completed Cyto's meta-talks. I'm sure elementz will agree with me, not that that means anything. | ||
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kepael
United States177 Posts
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
On September 14 2011 11:23 Two_DoWn wrote: Smash, me, and some random dude in Iowa are indeed ecstatic. Random dude in Canada also very happy, but more happy that they didn't buff the shit out of her to make her immediate mid fotm. Ori nerfs will be extremely noticeable in early game, but it won't change the fact that she's still the best AP carry for team fights. Still first ban material. Morde got abso-fucking-lutely hammered. I'm reading this as his E will only generate shield based on one creep if he uses it on a bunch of them. If that's true, he went from really imbalanced to not very good at all. Small Nid buff, I'm happy. Want to go back to playing her in top lane with RoA, I think this will help. Singed buff lol. Shen nerfs won't change him at all - they made him slightly easier to jungle with while still making him a tauntbot past 20 minutes into the game. Who builds AP on shen? Skarner buffs - Lokan and I are very happy, this is going to make him carry even harder than he already can if played properly. Jungle Taric looking real scary. No reason to buy merc treads anymore, get Eleisa's Miracle on every mana top laner after philo and boots 1 for imba sustain and CC reduction. Swifties going to make a comeback imo. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
On September 14 2011 13:04 HyperionDreamer wrote: Morde got abso-fucking-lutely hammered. I'm reading this as his E will only generate shield based on one creep if he uses it on a bunch of them. If that's true, he went from really imbalanced to not very good at all. E used to give shield based on damage plus a flat bonus for each target hit. Now it will give shield based on damage. Still counts damage from all targets. I'm pretty sure that's what the change is. | ||
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