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Craton
United States17294 Posts
On August 31 2011 13:34 LoCicero wrote: I have a smurf that was around 1900 last time I played on it. It's at 1800 now from elo decay. Might be too high though. That smurf is still ~100 higher than my main, lool. I think a 1300-1400 account would be ideal for this. I'd help, but I lack confidence in my ability to just carry every game to a win, given the time constraints. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On August 31 2011 15:59 JackDino wrote: Ranked removed on EU West(not blocked, it's completely gone). D: ITS HAPPENING /panic button | ||
NonY
8751 Posts
On August 31 2011 13:34 LoCicero wrote: I have a smurf that was around 1900 last time I played on it. It's at 1800 now from elo decay. Might be too high though. Yea if we duo queued I'd probably be a huge drain on the team... you'd have to carry really hard! | ||
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Craton
United States17294 Posts
That's curious. Usually it goes NA > EU for patches -- seems odd to change that for this. Maybe unrelated? On August 31 2011 16:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Yea if we duo queued I'd probably be a huge drain on the team... you'd have to carry really hard! Duoing is a weird entity, imo. On the one hand, its something like average rating + 150 for placement, so 1800+1400 = 1750, 1700+1400 = 1700, etc, which makes you (as the 1400) always the last pick and with people who are all higher Elo. On the other hand, if you're really better than your rating (such as someone who has decayed or really is a e.g. 1800 caliber player who hasn't done many ranked games), it actually works out quite well. It only becomes an issue when everyone is just so much better than you that you bring down the team. There's not a tremendous amount of skill separating say 1550 from 1750, though -- it's a bunch of little things, including the ability to meld a team to work together. Long story short: duoing with someone higher rating isn't as bad as it might sound on paper, especially when the low rated person is better than their current rating. You'll probably get stuck as support a lot, though. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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DrKlingmann
Poland356 Posts
On August 31 2011 16:21 Craton wrote: Usually it goes EUW > EUNE for patches Actually I'm quit sure it's the other way. EUNE has smaller playerbase and we have different timezone then EUW. So it's logical that Riot should test everything on EUNE prior to EUW just to prevent any serious troubles. | ||
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Craton
United States17294 Posts
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DrKlingmann
Poland356 Posts
Exceptio probat regulam. (Exception proves the rule) | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
Yeah you people really don't have a clue what your talking about at times. Terrible champ that unlike the claims doesn't even counter melee champs at all. I know i should stop testing what people say but with all the Swain love i, as per usual, thought i could be wrong. A very nice Talon showed me that Swain can counter the imaginary melee champ that walks back and forth to eat his full E and Q but that any real melee champ still kicks his worthless ass all around the lane. Worst game i have had in over a month, thx, Swain real legit yo. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
On August 31 2011 18:19 zalz wrote: Swain... Yeah you people really don't have a clue what your talking about at times. Terrible champ that unlike the claims doesn't even counter melee champs at all. I know i should stop testing what people say but with all the Swain love i, as per usual, thought i could be wrong. A very nice Talon showed me that Swain can counter the imaginary melee champ that walks back and forth to eat his full E and Q but that any real melee champ still kicks his worthless ass all around the lane. Worst game i have had in over a month, thx, Swain real legit yo. Lol. your last 2 posts here have been swain QQ and there's nothing else but that. As you obviously don't make mistakes and swain just is just so useless. Sorry to come off as a bi of an ass but swain really isn't that hard from my experiences | ||
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TheBJ
Bulgaria906 Posts
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
So what you're saying is "I went 0-5 as swain, he must be a bad champion." What i am saying is you people don't know what you're talking about when it comes to Swain because he's a terrible champ. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On August 31 2011 19:02 Kaniol wrote: Zalz the summary of your posts is: "Swain is bad because i said so". That's not even a way to theorycraft, not to mention that it isn't a way to really prove your point. Swain sounds perfect on paper, but so does Skarner and im sure we can all agree he is a terrible champ. The fact is that your E is your only damage skill. Your W is a skill that can be dodged so it's as much a matter of your own aiming as it is the other players incompetence. The laser bird doesn't do shit for damage because it gets broken after a single second. His range on E and Q is too low to compete with anyone. So here you have a melee on the lane, let's not specifiy. This guy, like all tops, is either gonna have a gap closer (Talon) or high sustain (Lanewick) or maybe a bit of both (Irelia). Now you might try to initiate on them, pointless ofcourse because it would require them getting caught in the W move. Lanewick could be caught but with your damage he wouldn't give a shit. Irelia and Udyr are both too fast to be caught in W, disregarding even that Irelia can shift out of it. Now you are gonna try to compete with these guys on the top lane. Many people here think that because you have ulti bird you are perfectly suited for the job. Fact is that ulti bird is terrible for healing. If you want to heal half your life bar you are looking at 80% of your mana bar right out the window. Sure Swain has that nice passive that gives mana for last hits but since you are allready low mana from ulti bird only an idiot would let you casually last hit your mana bar back. The enemy will only fight you on his terms and you can't force a fight on him. Your W simply won't work on a decent opponent and your 1 second Q tick + E deals about the most laughable damage in the game. Swain can recover his damage but the cost is simply too great for him to stay competitive with champions that recover their HP at half the price without an ulti (Lanewick, Udyr, Irelia. Low range, damage that relies on the enemy walking into your abilities and an ulti that gets completly shut down by ignite. He simply has far too many weak points to be competitive against solo tops wich are often the strongest champs in the game. You cannot harass the enemy down, you don't have the range, the mobility or even the damage because Q breaks within a second. The dream scenario is landing every W and running into them bird mode, tossing E and Q into their face but such a scenario is only a dream. The cold hard fact is that Swain takes it up the ass from melee champions just as hard as AP champions. Most crushing is perhaps his utter inability to harass unless the enemy wants to let it happen. Fiddlesticks would be a great laner if people let him finish his drain every time but they we must simply be honest in stating that Swain has no place against decent opponents and higher. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
tojarra is a faggot and a cuntface and his mother should have aborted him but he plays a decent swain and he got hipster plat on na by playing purely swain tldr : swain not op but not unviable | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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