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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 05 2011 07:45 GMT
#2621
LoL hints: i'm guessing that pretty much everyone knows about smartcast (shift+q/w/e/r) and fast emotes (shift +1/2/3/4 instead of enter /j etc) but did you know that in order to start/vote yes in surrender vote you just need to type /ff? Surrendering quickly is a useful skill toi have!
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 05 2011 07:59 GMT
#2622
6v6 is so much fun. Nuff said.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
NightWalks
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia252 Posts
September 05 2011 08:00 GMT
#2623
Any sugestions how a mid Swain should lain vs Cait ? While i was guarding our blue , Cait put 5 traps in mid and had 79 AD as soon as minions clashed she destroyed all of mine and landed few AA on me thus I ended 50% hp under my turret sieged by 5-7 minions .... if some1 pushes it's always option to call for gank , but this happened in first 3 minutes when my jungler just dinged 2 and finished volves. Also Cait wasn't greedy and took Net as 2nd skill to avoid ganks ...

Later as i got lv3 and qwe i could trade with her in my favor and start to CS . My jungler GP came and 1v1 Cait arround lv4 and their Jungler Nunu ambushed GP so they all 3x ran arround jungle with 20% HP where i cought them and got double kill + double buff and thus rest of laning was cake as i could spam and pew pew .

Otherwise i'm sure i would loose lane to zerkers / zeal Cait with full AD page
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
September 05 2011 08:14 GMT
#2624
On September 05 2011 17:00 NightWalks wrote:
Any sugestions how a mid Swain should lain vs Cait ? While i was guarding our blue , Cait put 5 traps in mid and had 79 AD as soon as minions clashed she destroyed all of mine and landed few AA on me thus I ended 50% hp under my turret sieged by 5-7 minions .... if some1 pushes it's always option to call for gank , but this happened in first 3 minutes when my jungler just dinged 2 and finished volves. Also Cait wasn't greedy and took Net as 2nd skill to avoid ganks ...

Later as i got lv3 and qwe i could trade with her in my favor and start to CS . My jungler GP came and 1v1 Cait arround lv4 and their Jungler Nunu ambushed GP so they all 3x ran arround jungle with 20% HP where i cought them and got double kill + double buff and thus rest of laning was cake as i could spam and pew pew .

Otherwise i'm sure i would loose lane to zerkers / zeal Cait with full AD page


Count your blessings mid-solo AD isn't popular yet.

If caitlyn is sitting in the creep wave trying to zone you just W her and let her eat minion aggro. I'd also suggest maybe a boots 3pot, cloth 5pot opening if you are really concerned.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 05 2011 08:24 GMT
#2625
jesus god I've never carried a game as hard as this one

[image loading]

nexus towers down? np. Ashe that hit ONE arrow in the first 45ish minutes? ok. Brand that feeds annie five kills mid and then feeds nid when he swaps top? Eh whatever. Full items tristana? Do not make me laugh. Morgana. Also, janna.

I'm EXHAUSTED after that game. I want to press on to gold tonight but I just can't.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
NightWalks
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia252 Posts
September 05 2011 08:38 GMT
#2626
If caitlyn is sitting in the creep wave trying to zone you just W her and let her eat minion aggro. I'd also suggest maybe a boots 3pot, cloth 5pot opening if you are really concerned.


The thing about minion agro , she killed all mine in mere seconds with AD page . I started boots +3 , but my kite range was limted as there were 4 traps set arround me XD not to mention her range is further that all i have . To W some you need to go further then cast range ( Otherwise they Juke out ezzpezz ) and thus i was open to her AA harass + minion wave ( since mine was dead )
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 08:45:53
September 05 2011 08:44 GMT
#2627
Caitlyn can only set 3 traps. 79 AD is not enough to clear a full 6 waves in "mere seconds." Where were you when she was clearing these waves in "mere seconds" ? Any way, early lvls some damage on the tower isn't terrible. It's better than you losing 50% of your life at lvl 1.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
NightWalks
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia252 Posts
September 05 2011 08:55 GMT
#2628
Where were you when she was clearing these waves in "mere seconds"


Guarding blue for my Jungler since no1 tends to do that ( I moustly jungle myself so i share the pain of all brother junglers who get butsexed by 3x+ oponent gank ) + minions expolde from Caits passive.

Any way, early lvls some damage on the tower isn't terrible. It's better than you losing 50% of your life at lvl 1


I wouldn't mind if I played Annie Brand or even Galio as these can clear waves at tower with efficient Aoes . For Swain maxing W first is sin and thus im left trying to AA under my tower ....

Should i just tower hug till my jungler is lv4 and ready to start ganking ? Should i call lane switch instead of giving Cait free farm ?

PS: This was in normal queue and we couldn't anticipate who we will lane against
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
September 05 2011 08:58 GMT
#2629
On September 05 2011 03:33 Qualm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 03:21 phyvo wrote:
Because Karma is actually a fairly sucky healer.

A) your heal is on a 30 second CD early on from manta charges.
B) because of manta it shares a CD with your best nuke.
C) It sucks early on and sucks later too.

At level 3 it's 75 HP + 5% missing HP. For it to be equal to level 3 astral blessing (which has a shorter CD at this point) you'd need 2700 HP missing.

At level 11 astral blessing heals for 350 and has a more or less equal CD to your own heal. Assuming a Karma with no HP for extra AP, you'd heal for 135 + (5% + 2%) and the missing HP would have to be 3000 to equal Soraka heal.

Karma heal is AoE but in terms of protecting your carry that fact is unhelpful. It is more of a clutch heal than anything else and Riot's nerfs to other heals have done nothing to change that.

Karma's heal is only good for close saves and for late-game team-wide sustain pretty much.

The shield on the other hand, is pretty damn baller. (and is also your big nuke) I could see more potential with this >_> Her slow/speed buff is pretty strong too. But she really seems to need a lot of AP to be really good - the whole level-6 skills drop off to much otherwise, don't they?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
September 05 2011 09:09 GMT
#2630
On September 05 2011 16:45 Kaniol wrote:
LoL hints: i'm guessing that pretty much everyone knows about smartcast (shift+q/w/e/r) and fast emotes (shift +1/2/3/4 instead of enter /j etc) but did you know that in order to start/vote yes in surrender vote you just need to type /ff? Surrendering quickly is a useful skill toi have!

Holding tilde while using move, attack, or a spell will only target champions.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
September 05 2011 09:21 GMT
#2631
On September 05 2011 18:09 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 16:45 Kaniol wrote:
LoL hints: i'm guessing that pretty much everyone knows about smartcast (shift+q/w/e/r) and fast emotes (shift +1/2/3/4 instead of enter /j etc) but did you know that in order to start/vote yes in surrender vote you just need to type /ff? Surrendering quickly is a useful skill toi have!

Holding tilde while using move, attack, or a spell will only target champions.

I thought it was a toggle lol
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 05 2011 09:44 GMT
#2632
[image loading]

Nice summoner spells? :D
Anyway 6v6 is fun but host started 6v5 :\ bleh
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 05 2011 09:54 GMT
#2633
On September 05 2011 18:44 Crucifix wrote:
[image loading]

Nice summoner spells? :D
Anyway 6v6 is fun but host started 6v5 :\ bleh

Those are the Dominion summoners, how did you get them?
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 05 2011 09:54 GMT
#2634
Some bug in custom game, we've entered the 6v6 game and those appeared, haha. Anyway they doesn't work :\
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
September 05 2011 10:07 GMT
#2635


Really interesting video from Chowx I think you guys should all check out. Highlights include "Solo queue was an abomination and should've never happened."

Chowx is just so well spoken and level headed, definitely the most sensible pro-player on the NA server. Hope there are more of these to come.

And the 5v5 Team Ladder thing sounds really awesome.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 05 2011 10:19 GMT
#2636
Chowx is great. It's kind of funny that he says there shouldn't have been a solo queue ladder when in an interview, TSM stated that they me each other in solo queue and started a team.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 05 2011 10:23 GMT
#2637
What he's saying is he doesn't want a ranked solo q. He wants a normals solo q still. You can still meet such people in normals.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
September 05 2011 10:46 GMT
#2638
For me personally if I play normal everyone trolls or don't care about team composition at all i.e. no jungler 2 mid and stuff like that while in ranked people take it more seriously and people try to get a working composition and actually cares about winning.

On the other hand no ranked solo que means you might have to play mix/scrim with randoms searching for them in IRC channels like in DotA. This could lead to a more competitive scene but there's so much hassle to deal with it, especially with Riots crippled custom game system. Ranked solo que is so convenient and the games are way better than in normal at least for me personally.

Switching to the DotA way would get rid of trolls but makes finding games 10x more annoying. Solo que isn't stopping the scene from developing a thriving mix/scrim scene, it's the community and Riots shitty custom game system.
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
September 05 2011 10:54 GMT
#2639
On September 05 2011 18:09 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 16:45 Kaniol wrote:
LoL hints: i'm guessing that pretty much everyone knows about smartcast (shift+q/w/e/r) and fast emotes (shift +1/2/3/4 instead of enter /j etc) but did you know that in order to start/vote yes in surrender vote you just need to type /ff? Surrendering quickly is a useful skill toi have!

Holding tilde while using move, attack, or a spell will only target champions.


Holding tilde? Can you explain this please?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 10:57:03
September 05 2011 10:56 GMT
#2640
Nah it's stupid to not have a ranked solo Q. Normals are just a big clusterfuck and few people actually have 5 to do ranked queue with, which is exactly why ranked 5s are so inactive.

On September 05 2011 19:54 -Kato- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 18:09 Craton wrote:
On September 05 2011 16:45 Kaniol wrote:
LoL hints: i'm guessing that pretty much everyone knows about smartcast (shift+q/w/e/r) and fast emotes (shift +1/2/3/4 instead of enter /j etc) but did you know that in order to start/vote yes in surrender vote you just need to type /ff? Surrendering quickly is a useful skill toi have!

Holding tilde while using move, attack, or a spell will only target champions.


Holding tilde? Can you explain this please?

What's to explain?
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