Question about solo'ing top lane against Udyr.

The last few days I've ran into Udyr while playing Nasus a few times. I can't figure out how to optimally play the lane. I tried being really passive and essentially only last hitting creeps while completely ignoring him. This still led me being forced to B more often because he could still stun me, add up some damage, and then swap back to turtle to fill back up. It wasn't like I was getting bursted, but I was forced back more frequently.

My Q obviously allowed me to keep up with farm for the most part, but after a while his damage increases enough to legitimately threaten me and I have to be more picky about last hitting.

Do I have to just farm the best I can, avoid dying, and just hope the game runs long enough and rely on my higher damage endgame? Do I get more armor based items to try to minimize his harassing ability? Any tips would be appreciated.

Eppa!

Sweden4641 Posts

August 22 2011 00:10 GMT

#1863

On August 22 2011 09:05 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Question about solo'ing top lane against Udyr.

The last few days I've ran into Udyr while playing Nasus a few times. I can't figure out how to optimally play the lane. I tried being really passive and essentially only last hitting creeps while completely ignoring him. This still led me being forced to B more often because he could still stun me, add up some damage, and then swap back to turtle to fill back up. It wasn't like I was getting bursted, but I was forced back more frequently.

My Q obviously allowed me to keep up with farm for the most part, but after a while his damage increases enough to legitimately threaten me and I have to be more picky about last hitting.

Do I have to just farm the best I can, avoid dying, and just hope the game runs long enough and rely on my higher damage endgame? Do I get more armor based items to try to minimize his harassing ability? Any tips would be appreciated.

Get Wriggles would be my advice, its very good vs Udyr. I really recommend going armor seal runes and 1/16/x build.

R04R

United States1631 Posts

August 22 2011 00:47 GMT

#1864

You can't be passive against Udyr. Early on his mana costs are still high, so if you can force him to change stances a lot just to keep his ground against you he will run out of mana and not be able to fight back. If he turtle stances hit him as much as possible and don't let him regen off creeps. Avoid getting hit by bear->tiger as much as possible. Kiting him when he changes stances will decrease the effects of his passive bonus aspd and dodge. After his unsuccessful engagement on you he will go back to farming with turtle stance. Don't let him do that. Fight back and force him to change stances as much as possible while still keeping yourself in healthy standing.

Once he gets wriggle's it's a different story but hopefully the lead you've gotten in the earlier levels will help.

Craton

United States17265 Posts

August 22 2011 01:03 GMT

#1865

streaming some bitch role 1600s atm
qq

Ryuu314

United States12679 Posts

August 22 2011 01:09 GMT

#1866

I can't imagine that you'd ever really be able to trade hits with Udyr. You should have no problems kiting him with wither, but unless you can burst down at least like...50%+ of his hp, you will lose the attrition fight. Turtle stance is just too powerful a sustain tool. I can't imagine a Nasus ever beating an Udyr solo top.

I'm not 100% sure though so iunno...

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

August 22 2011 01:18 GMT

#1867

If you're on US server, DON'T QUEUE. Just got the laggiest game I've ever hard. Everyone in the game had it.

0123456789

United States3216 Posts

August 22 2011 01:19 GMT

#1868

On August 22 2011 10:18 HazMat wrote:
If you're on US server, DON'T QUEUE. Just got the laggiest game I've ever hard. Everyone in the game had it.

Been like that for a while now.

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

August 22 2011 01:24 GMT

#1869

Why no one tell me

LoCicero

1100 Posts

August 22 2011 01:36 GMT

#1870

Wolves > ShakeDrizzle

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

August 22 2011 01:38 GMT

#1871

Wraiths tyvm

NonY

8751 Posts

August 22 2011 01:40 GMT

#1872

On August 22 2011 06:22 Odds wrote:
Despite what I may have claimed in the past, AD Leblanc does not, in fact, work.

How about an AP/ASPD Orianna? Tooth/Rageblade/Malady. Max shield lol

chubbly

New Zealand58 Posts

August 22 2011 01:43 GMT

#1873

LoCicero, I am willing to donate cashmonies to get you to upload more replays. Shitty NZ internet precludes me from watching streams and you play the heroes I enjoy watching the most. Please say yes!

R04R

United States1631 Posts

August 22 2011 01:45 GMT

#1874

Nasus has passive lifesteal... wat. And I think you're overestimating Udyr's damage output minus tiger proc. Udyr takes forever to farm a creep wave without madred's/wriggle's

LoCicero

1100 Posts

August 22 2011 01:53 GMT

#1875

On August 22 2011 10:43 chubbly wrote:
LoCicero, I am willing to donate cashmonies to get you to upload more replays. Shitty NZ internet precludes me from watching streams and you play the heroes I enjoy watching the most. Please say yes!

Yeah sure, do the replays still work? Someone updated the thread saying the replays don't work anymore? Did one of the patches mess them up? Regardless I can empty out the dropbox and put in recent replays that you can look through if you want.

Don't worry about the money, but thanks for the offer =).

Odds

Canada1188 Posts

August 22 2011 01:59 GMT

#1876

On August 22 2011 10:40 Liquid`Tyler wrote:

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How about an AP/ASPD Orianna? Tooth/Rageblade/Malady. Max shield lol

Never played Orianna so I couldnt say. But tooth/rageblade is legit good on tarick.

r.Evo

Germany14080 Posts

August 22 2011 02:00 GMT

#1877

On August 22 2011 10:53 LoCicero wrote:

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Yeah, was me. :S ...

Since LoL Replay is 3rd Party patches keep messing up replays like ever 2-3 weeks. :/

Tisp

Canada209 Posts

August 22 2011 02:06 GMT

#1878

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, did they disable Custom Games? I just got back from Vacation, bought Nocturne on sale and wanted to try him out but I need 3 people to have a custom game. Thats really weak

crate

United States2474 Posts

August 22 2011 02:08 GMT

#1879

On August 22 2011 11:06 Tisp wrote:
Sorry if this has been mentioned before, did they disable Custom Games? I just got back from Vacation, bought Nocturne on sale and wanted to try him out but I need 3 people to have a custom game. Thats really weak

When there's a high server load Riot often increases the number of players needed to start a custom game. When the servers are under less demand, it'll be removed.