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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
August 10 2011 15:35 GMT
#341
Singed wins a lot of lanes outright...
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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
August 10 2011 15:44 GMT
#342
Tiamats OP

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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
August 10 2011 15:50 GMT
#343
On August 11 2011 00:29 HyperionDreamer wrote:
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On August 10 2011 22:57 zer0das wrote:
Skarner was pretty annoying when fighting against him as Singed... his crystal shield made it difficult to damage him 1v1, and also made it a bit of a pain catching up to him, while he could chase me down pretty well over a short distance. I don't have my third speed quint though (not level 30), so that was probably partly why. He'd also just consume marks off minions while largely ignoring me after it became apparent neither of us could really kill each other that well. I build a bit more tanky though, so he'd probably still go down pretty quickly against AP. My teammates didn't have any problem taking him down though.

Impale's damage is quite poor, so it doesn't seem too terribly useful except in team fights. The drag distance isn't exactly huge either, so unless some squishy is horribly out of position to begin with, it isn't as strong as I thought it would be.

Singed doesn't really win many lanes outright, since his damage output almost solely comes from poison, which exposes you to a lot of physical damage attacks in lane. Instead, he just becomes unkillable late-game...

I don't see Skarner being a good solo top at all, his sustain looks way too easy to deny.... If he drops the marks on a line of creeps, just prevent him from getting into melee range and you're fine. Impale is really over-rated as a skill in team fights, since you essentially remove yourself from the fight when you're carrying around another hero, plus the range on it is really short. I could see him becoming really strong if they changed his R to be a ranged hook, kind of like blitz.

I thought it's exactly the opposite, you cant melee singed because it exposes you to his poison o.o imagine garen who can auto while spinning
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 16:06:08
August 10 2011 16:04 GMT
#344
On August 10 2011 23:37 Ferrose wrote:
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On August 10 2011 23:24 BlackPaladin wrote:
On August 10 2011 22:51 Qualm wrote:
Does anyone know if it's possible to drag someone over walls with skarners ult?

Say, over the small "cliff" right over the two long mid-lane brushes


^This
And if you flash while your ult is attached to them, do you flash with them still attached to you? If you can you can pull off some epic moves lol. Run into 5 man team, ult 1, flash out into your own team, 5v1 the single enemy while they're still attached.


You can't Flash. I've also tried to use W get a speed boost during the ult, but that doesn't work either


Suppression is always a2-way stun. But let´s be honest the ult is good enough already and the point of Ws shield component isn´t damage migitation but the ability to remove the buff via damage.


You can´t melee Singed because he will fling you. The poison really isn´t dangerous on its own.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 10 2011 16:08 GMT
#345
how does skarner's ult interact with janna and gragas' ults and blitz hook?
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 10 2011 16:10 GMT
#346
On August 11 2011 01:08 gtrsrs wrote:
how does skarner's ult interact with janna and gragas' ults and blitz hook?


Probably interrupts the cast prematurely if the enemy target is moved. I imagine it's a lot like WW or Malz ulti.
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
August 10 2011 16:15 GMT
#347
how are all the usual panth players building him now? Im not banning him yet since all the ones ive seen so far have failed hard

whats making him OP atm?
Brees on in
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
August 10 2011 16:21 GMT
#348
On August 11 2011 01:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
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On August 11 2011 01:08 gtrsrs wrote:
how does skarner's ult interact with janna and gragas' ults and blitz hook?


Probably interrupts the cast prematurely if the enemy target is moved. I imagine it's a lot like WW or Malz ulti.


Saw someone post a video where they ulted someone blue pilling and caught them at the end of it and it dragged them from their base back to skarner so maybe gragas or janna ult would pull victim along with skarner.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
August 10 2011 16:28 GMT
#349
Testing needs to be done
Everyone needs a nemesis.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 16:36:26
August 10 2011 16:34 GMT
#350
On August 11 2011 00:29 HyperionDreamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 22:57 zer0das wrote:
Skarner was pretty annoying when fighting against him as Singed... his crystal shield made it difficult to damage him 1v1, and also made it a bit of a pain catching up to him, while he could chase me down pretty well over a short distance. I don't have my third speed quint though (not level 30), so that was probably partly why. He'd also just consume marks off minions while largely ignoring me after it became apparent neither of us could really kill each other that well. I build a bit more tanky though, so he'd probably still go down pretty quickly against AP. My teammates didn't have any problem taking him down though.

Impale's damage is quite poor, so it doesn't seem too terribly useful except in team fights. The drag distance isn't exactly huge either, so unless some squishy is horribly out of position to begin with, it isn't as strong as I thought it would be.

Singed doesn't really win many lanes outright, since his damage output almost solely comes from poison, which exposes you to a lot of physical damage attacks in lane. Instead, he just becomes unkillable late-game...


This was post laning phase where everyone was level 12-16 or so. Skarner was ahead of everyone except the mid-Nidalee they had. Also, while it is generally true Singed has a hard time winning lanes quickly, the general build I use usually results in me completely overpowering the enemy lane at some point via attrition, assuming mid doesn't collapse disastrously and I don't have to cover (I usually do, whoo solo queue).
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 10 2011 16:56 GMT
#351
On August 11 2011 01:15 Brees wrote:
how are all the usual panth players building him now? Im not banning him yet since all the ones ive seen so far have failed hard

whats making him OP atm?

old loci build

2 dblades + boots -> bruta -> bloodthirster
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
August 10 2011 16:58 GMT
#352
On August 11 2011 01:56 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 01:15 Brees wrote:
how are all the usual panth players building him now? Im not banning him yet since all the ones ive seen so far have failed hard

whats making him OP atm?

old loci build

2 dblades + boots -> bruta -> bloodthirster


wat runez/masteries?
Brees on in
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 10 2011 16:58 GMT
#353
I just played my first Pantheon game.

Completely denied a Brand mid, at lvl 1 the spears did 105 dmg wut? o.O Could burst him for 75% of his hp and he ended up rushing thornmail. Then again he was a noob but the damage you can do with stun -> HSS -> hit -> Q is insane and they can't come near the creeps if they're below ~70% hp. I guess he had mp5 runes though, not sure how it is vs armor runes.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 10 2011 17:07 GMT
#354
On August 11 2011 01:58 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 01:56 Mogwai wrote:
On August 11 2011 01:15 Brees wrote:
how are all the usual panth players building him now? Im not banning him yet since all the ones ive seen so far have failed hard

whats making him OP atm?

old loci build

2 dblades + boots -> bruta -> bloodthirster


wat runez/masteries?

My guess is ad marks/quints and mp5 seals/glyphs.
I tried a game using apen, but now that it doesn't scale off total dmg I find u really need that extra ad
Masteries is prolly just 21/9/0
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
August 10 2011 17:11 GMT
#355
Pantheon so strong
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 10 2011 17:14 GMT
#356
I just went like 4-0 streak with Panth. Best part: Zoning an Anivia who came from leashing blue. Send her all the way around her jungle to get to lane. Ez #1. =D

I had one horrible game. Morgana mid. First levels I get some Qs in and shes super passive. Around lvl 4 she starts farming with her pool of shit and starts spellshielding my Q harass.

At like lvl 7-8 I couldn't touch her at all anymore. I got 1-0 via lucky jungle gank and afterwards she was completely immune to me.

Morgana hardcounter or me just nup?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 10 2011 17:18 GMT
#357
On August 11 2011 02:14 r.Evo wrote:
I just went like 4-0 streak with Panth. Best part: Zoning an Anivia who came from leashing blue. Send her all the way around her jungle to get to lane. Ez #1. =D

I had one horrible game. Morgana mid. First levels I get some Qs in and shes super passive. Around lvl 4 she starts farming with her pool of shit and starts spellshielding my Q harass.

At like lvl 7-8 I couldn't touch her at all anymore. I got 1-0 via lucky jungle gank and afterwards she was completely immune to me.

Morgana hardcounter or me just nup?


I thought her shield was only magic damage? Isn't the spear Physical?
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 10 2011 17:28 GMT
#358
maybe the morg was noob and didnt know that, but leeched the Hp back with pool :D
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
August 10 2011 17:36 GMT
#359
New favorite trick

be teemo

be top lane

start of game run straight to bot lane with boots+3pot, do not pass go, do not collect fucking money

afk in enemy side of bushes

collect double kill

go top with boots+doran+pot
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
August 10 2011 17:37 GMT
#360
Flash Exhaust or Flash Ignite on Pantheon?

I'm leaning slightly towards Exhaust because it can help stave off a gank sometimes.
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