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Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
August 10 2011 04:27 GMT
#301
best yet, he can tower dive like noone else can. there is no escape.
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
August 10 2011 04:32 GMT
#302
OK i have some questions about who people are, did any of these people have another name previously??:

Crumbzz
Pobelter
Named PC II

There's more I'm hazy on but the site isn't working for me so I can't jog my memory.

Also I thought MakNooN changed his name but now he's back to MakNooN???
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
August 10 2011 04:33 GMT
#303
On August 10 2011 13:03 Two_DoWn wrote:
Ive developed an irrational hatred of rageblade on every champion besides jax because of how annoying it is to charge.

And nidalee, pouncing around constantly keeps you at 8 stacks for free. Rageblade seems passable on this guy, but probably not too good compared to trinity force, the low CD on his Q will give you a crapload of sheen/phage procs.

Skarner is just a poor mans lee sin right now... Everything he does, monk does better. D=
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
August 10 2011 04:55 GMT
#304
I'm not sure you can afford to buy any damage item on Skarner after wriggles. From what I've seen, he needs to be pretty damn tanky right from the getgo since he has no gap closer and pretty much no range. Doesn't really have udyr's damage to blow up people within the duration of 1 second stun either.

His only job is to get in balls deep in the enemy team and perma-slow them and using his shield and heal to stay alive.

On the plus side, I think with a good jungle route he can terror low level pretty hard because his level 1 skill is a perma slow.

His ulti is honestly significantly weaker than you'd expect for ganking. Pretty much demands a flash to get it off and even then it's only slightly better than a stun.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 10 2011 05:09 GMT
#305
On August 10 2011 13:32 sRapers_ValkS wrote:
OK i have some questions about who people are, did any of these people have another name previously??:

Crumbzz
Pobelter
Named PC II

There's more I'm hazy on but the site isn't working for me so I can't jog my memory.

Also I thought MakNooN changed his name but now he's back to MakNooN???

Crumbzz is Crubmzz
Pobelter is Pobelter
Named PC is Maknoon. Maknoon never got a name change, he just has 3 different accounts at high Elo.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#306
On August 10 2011 13:33 HyperionDreamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 13:03 Two_DoWn wrote:
Ive developed an irrational hatred of rageblade on every champion besides jax because of how annoying it is to charge.

And nidalee, pouncing around constantly keeps you at 8 stacks for free. Rageblade seems passable on this guy, but probably not too good compared to trinity force, the low CD on his Q will give you a crapload of sheen/phage procs.

Skarner is just a poor mans lee sin right now... Everything he does, monk does better. D=

which character you think made me hate it?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
August 10 2011 06:54 GMT
#307
On August 10 2011 13:23 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I was talking about a solo, I think E in a duo lane with someone like Taric is definitely something to consider.

Pantheon going mid against a lot of the popular APs is pretty dumb, since you can just chuck spears non stop from level 1 before they can trade hits with you (Brand, Annie, Orianna for example all want two spells before really trading). You start shutting them down from level 1, and at level 4 with QWEQ you can probably kill/force them out of lane. Worked for me against a Brand in a normal I just played, and I wasn't even good about dodging his combo, Panth just bursts so hard now.


why's the brand not E->2 hits with you at lvl 1
cool beans
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
August 10 2011 06:58 GMT
#308
New Panth pretty strong now. I played a taric panth bot lane game. That game ended pretty quickly.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 10 2011 06:59 GMT
#309
On August 10 2011 15:58 LoCicero wrote:
New Panth pretty strong now. I played a taric panth bot lane game. That game ended pretty quickly.

So how do you build panth now? Still with ur old TL panth guide? or something new?
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
August 10 2011 07:17 GMT
#310
On August 10 2011 15:59 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 15:58 LoCicero wrote:
New Panth pretty strong now. I played a taric panth bot lane game. That game ended pretty quickly.

So how do you build panth now? Still with ur old TL panth guide? or something new?


Honestly I think I will forgo youmuu's now. Personally I would rather get a bloodthirster 1350 gold quicker than get youmuu's right away. In my eyes his heartseeker makes up for any attack speed deficiencies now. Its cooldown is so low now at max level and it's fast enough that you can just Q + W + Auto + E + Auto and within a couple seconds your E will be back up again so you can Auto + E + Auto.

That being said these are items I will probably always get on Panth:

1-2 Doran Blades (I don't run much armor pen so I'm thinking just rush the bruta and don't get 2 blades now though)
Brutalizer
Bloodthirster
Mercury Treads

You pretty much cannot go wrong with those items above. That being said, I have been toying with the idea of using cooldown reduction as his "attack speed."

Some items I'm considering:

Youmuu's (only difference being I don't rush it)
Frozen Heart
Ionian boots
Spirit Visage (?) (not sure about this one, theoretically works well with bloodthirster but I don't know)
Reverie (not joking, the only useless stat for panth would be the health regen, and its active is OP as balls)
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 10 2011 07:32 GMT
#311
What runes? AD marks/quints and mana regen seals/glyphs?
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
August 10 2011 07:47 GMT
#312
AH the star Locicero finally makes appearance. How you twist Riot into buffing your mains? Pls advice.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 10 2011 08:01 GMT
#313
Suggestion:

[Discussion] Skarner - Topic



One of the great things about TL is that we have people (well, some at least) who can work together (well, most of us), flame noobs who have stupid ideas (all day, durr) and theorycraft stuff quicker (including shikyo) than any other community (cuz TL #1 rite) out there.

Having all the ideas and suggestions thrown around in one place will help us figure out new champions as quick as usual and not delay everyone on TL being fuckOP with that champ before everyone else.

Once the thread starts dieing down / someone decides he loves the champ and writes a real thread we can close the old "preview and workgroup" thread.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
August 10 2011 08:08 GMT
#314
On August 10 2011 13:55 Juicyfruit wrote:
I'm not sure you can afford to buy any damage item on Skarner after wriggles. From what I've seen, he needs to be pretty damn tanky right from the getgo since he has no gap closer and pretty much no range. Doesn't really have udyr's damage to blow up people within the duration of 1 second stun either.

His only job is to get in balls deep in the enemy team and perma-slow them and using his shield and heal to stay alive.

On the plus side, I think with a good jungle route he can terror low level pretty hard because his level 1 skill is a perma slow.

His ulti is honestly significantly weaker than you'd expect for ganking. Pretty much demands a flash to get it off and even then it's only slightly better than a stun.


I wish that Skarner's ult got like an extra half second duration or something with each level. You can't really do much with 1.5 seconds. I haven't always needed Flash to hit it though, usually I can just use W and I can catch up quickly enough.

I'm sure that while jungling you could pull off some sick ganks with the ult though.
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LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 08:41:08
August 10 2011 08:32 GMT
#315
On August 10 2011 16:32 Ryuu314 wrote:
What runes? AD marks/quints and mana regen seals/glyphs?


Yeah, I really like the flat mana regen, really strong early.

Edit: I'm 99% sure Panth heartseeker going to get nerfed again next patch, lol. They made it do too much damage in such a short amount of time. The only way I see it being balanced is if they remove its AoE component and make it single target.
zergnewb
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States816 Posts
August 10 2011 08:40 GMT
#316
A Skarner gank as Morde is funny. He drags the enemy right to you and its a certain kill.
Welcome to the Durst-Zone
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 08:42:49
August 10 2011 08:41 GMT
#317
Trolled 9 games in a row
win 1 anyway

doesnt matter, now shit elo, never reach gold gg
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 10 2011 09:02 GMT
#318
On August 10 2011 17:41 Odds wrote:
Trolled 9 games in a row
win 1 anyway

doesnt matter, now shit elo, never reach gold gg


NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP

NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN~
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Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 09:54:55
August 10 2011 09:53 GMT
#319
Anyone have math for optimized apen/ad vs average armor?

Without doing math I've been running 7 apen red runes (10 apen + 6 from mastery) and rest flat ad and flat mana regen on both blues and yellows. Chuck spears all of level 1-2.
Stuck.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 10 2011 10:40 GMT
#320
When HSGG's not streaming, TheRainMan hits 10k viewers.
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