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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 27 2011 21:41 GMT
#261
On July 28 2011 06:24 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 17:44 HazMat wrote:
On July 27 2011 17:23 MoonBear wrote:
On July 27 2011 13:27 r33k wrote:
On July 27 2011 11:55 Jaso wrote:
On July 27 2011 11:54 Two_DoWn wrote:
On July 27 2011 11:49 Jaso wrote:
On July 27 2011 11:48 LaNague wrote:
On July 27 2011 11:43 Jaso wrote:
On July 27 2011 11:36 LaNague wrote:
cause everyone hates vlad and will never forgive him for his laning before the nerfs.
He has to suffor now.


I like how Riot employees that watch a stream just randomly decide to ban the streamers account if they dont like what they see.


Apparently it was only for 3 days, so I think it's more reasonable now that I know all the details.



its still a bit of a douche move to not just ay something when he announced it.


I still agree; the Reds must've seen or head about TSM's events and should have warned him. At the very least I think they could've just told him to stop doing what he was on stream before banning him.

Oh well, what's done is done. It's a good thing he wasn't permabanned.. that would truly suck.

What happened?


As part of TSM's "giving back to the community" events, Reginald was going to help some low-elo accounts get their elo up and in that process explain via livestream tactics and how to get through that ELO.

Apparently he didn't use his own accounts, so Riot banned him without notice. And they banned the account he was helping, too I believe.

How dumb is that.... We all know that it's in their EULA not to have more than one account but everyone and their mom has a smurf. Why not ban HS and jiji too then, or call them out instead of saying on stream "we tend to close an eye on that".

Just to clarify: The EULA and ToS does not forbid you from having multiple accounts. There's nothing wrong with that. What is against the EULA/ToS is account sharing.

For the most part, Riot tends to turn a blind eye to people account sharing in the same way that Blizzard tends to do. However, they don't want people explicitly encouraging it. That means that if people share accounts, it's okay if they don't make a big fuss about it. What Regi was doing probably urked someone in Riot CS because he was using someone else's account in a very public manner. Streaming the use of someone else's account and having lots of people see it is generally not approved of. (I think that's why Tech9 got banned?)

TL;DR
If you share accounts, don't stream it in front of thousands of people and make a news post about it.

What about the elo welfare thread? If a red sees it, would they ban me?

Didn't you know it was against the rules when you started it?lol

Nope.
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Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 27 2011 21:54 GMT
#262
All these changed animations, they better not have touched my waddling mummy!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
July 27 2011 22:06 GMT
#263
On July 27 2011 21:43 JackDino wrote:
Apparently amumu can jungle without smite, did anyone know this?

Pretty well, actually, if you get a good bit of help on blue. I had to do it once when summoners bugged and I couldn't change them.
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Qualm
Profile Joined December 2009
721 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 22:37:11
July 27 2011 22:32 GMT
#264
On July 28 2011 03:13 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
So is Wukong OP? I haven't seen anybody play him in ranked yet.

Imo he's pretty average/weak:

passive: minimal in lane, but very good in 5v5 teamfights (40 armor and mr!)

Q: Standard on-hit damage attack reset, average-low bonus damage, coupled with bugged %arpen (it only applies to the base armor). Requires levels to be any good, as it has a 9s level 1 cooldown and a base bonus of only 30 damage. Yet no scaling.

W: Good escape mechanism, but on a long cd at level 1 (18 seconds!). Also countered in teamfights by oracles on support. It's damage component is pretty much negligible.

E: Moderate burst gap-closer, but only hits 3 targets meaning aoe wave clearing isn't possible. It has a fairly nice, low cool-down, and what seems like average range (around 600). It comes with a pretty good AS bonus that sadly only lasts 3 seconds.

R: Fairly good at level 11 and onwards but it only has +20 base dps at level 6. I'm not sure how long the knockup is but it seems to be around 1 second. Considering the scaling

Ultimately I feel they should make his w or q better at rank 1 so you can clearly focus on one as a second skill to max. He's good in teamfights but I don't see him taking any sustained laner 1v1 and I doubt he can jungle. I'd expect minor buffs next patch. Then again, I didn't get to play him yet but that's my feeling so far based on what I've seen and on reading his abilities.

If a tournament were to happen on this patch you wouldn't see him picked, that's for sure.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 27 2011 22:43 GMT
#265
On July 28 2011 07:32 Qualm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 03:13 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
So is Wukong OP? I haven't seen anybody play him in ranked yet.

R: Fairly good at level 11 and onwards but it only has +20 base dps at level 6. I'm not sure how long the knockup is but it seems to be around 1 second.

Well it adds to all dmg... If you have 1-2 doran blades as imo you should on this guy, the ult is going to do around 500 physical dmg, which imo is really nice.
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LancerStarcraft
Profile Joined July 2010
United States235 Posts
July 27 2011 23:00 GMT
#266
So blue buff nidalee is pretty much the worst thing I've ever faced in a lane. Trundle jsut kept passing it to her all game. 15 minutes in she's beating me by 30 cs as Jarvan and I can't do anything about it. I think I'm scarred for life.
"Buy a ward. Stop a gank. Save a life."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 27 2011 23:04 GMT
#267
On July 28 2011 08:00 LancerStarcraft wrote:
So blue buff nidalee is pretty much the worst thing I've ever faced in a lane. Trundle jsut kept passing it to her all game. 15 minutes in she's beating me by 30 cs as Jarvan and I can't do anything about it. I think I'm scarred for life.

Losing by 30cs at 15min to nidalee as jarvan equals winning the lane to me
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Qualm
Profile Joined December 2009
721 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 00:00:22
July 27 2011 23:36 GMT
#268
On July 28 2011 07:43 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 07:32 Qualm wrote:
On July 28 2011 03:13 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
So is Wukong OP? I haven't seen anybody play him in ranked yet.

R: Fairly good at level 11 and onwards but it only has +20 base dps at level 6. I'm not sure how long the knockup is but it seems to be around 1 second.

Well it adds to all dmg... If you have 1-2 doran blades as imo you should on this guy, the ult is going to do around 500 physical dmg, which imo is really nice.


Well yes but considering the fact that it's a 1:1 total ad scaling it pretty much means you would do nearly the same damage autoattacking with your AS boost from Nimbus Strike.

You do get quite a nice movespeed boost however.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 23:39:13
July 27 2011 23:36 GMT
#269
Watching shikyo do AP trynd solo mid. Hilarious hehe

edit: also rage, lol
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SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
July 27 2011 23:47 GMT
#270
Oh that rage. LoL. Gotta love dem Caps
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hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4668 Posts
July 27 2011 23:57 GMT
#271
On July 28 2011 08:04 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:00 LancerStarcraft wrote:
So blue buff nidalee is pretty much the worst thing I've ever faced in a lane. Trundle jsut kept passing it to her all game. 15 minutes in she's beating me by 30 cs as Jarvan and I can't do anything about it. I think I'm scarred for life.

Losing by 30cs at 15min to nidalee as jarvan equals winning the lane to me


Especially one that has blue buff most of the game!
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clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
July 28 2011 00:03 GMT
#272
On July 28 2011 08:36 Qualm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 07:43 Shikyo wrote:
On July 28 2011 07:32 Qualm wrote:
On July 28 2011 03:13 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
So is Wukong OP? I haven't seen anybody play him in ranked yet.

R: Fairly good at level 11 and onwards but it only has +20 base dps at level 6. I'm not sure how long the knockup is but it seems to be around 1 second.

Well it adds to all dmg... If you have 1-2 doran blades as imo you should on this guy, the ult is going to do around 500 physical dmg, which imo is really nice.


Well yes but considering the fact that it's a 1:1 total ad scaling it pretty much means you would do nearly the same damage autoattacking with your AS boost from Nimbus Strike.


The thing is that it's an aoe and has a short disable. Hitting only 2 ppl with it means doubling your damage output. Also hitting stuff with it is easyer.

What suprises me is that ppl only consider him as a top laner or jungler. I can imagine him much better at bottom lane with an aggressive support such as taric, nidalee, janna to shut down lanes, because A) his passive scales better there and B) with his dash in and dash out he can trade blows without getting kited?

Also looking at his abilities I'am not sure if phreak got it right during his spotlight. He suggested building him tanky but what does a tank without disables and sustain do? Isn't his skillset screaming carry?
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 00:06:43
July 28 2011 00:06 GMT
#273
Jiji been spamming games as AD lately. Seems likely he'll be the AD carry at the tourny (MLG/ESL?)
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
July 28 2011 00:08 GMT
#274
tanky IS what u do with melee carries, you cant build them dps because then they blow up in half a second.
Iskusstvo
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom323 Posts
July 28 2011 00:10 GMT
#275
Any advice on how best to play in lane vs an aggressive Kat as a squishy, when she can EW you and take off a good portion of your health without taking much damage in return?
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[Agony]x90
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States853 Posts
July 28 2011 00:11 GMT
#276
On July 28 2011 08:04 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:00 LancerStarcraft wrote:
So blue buff nidalee is pretty much the worst thing I've ever faced in a lane. Trundle jsut kept passing it to her all game. 15 minutes in she's beating me by 30 cs as Jarvan and I can't do anything about it. I think I'm scarred for life.

Losing by 30cs at 15min to nidalee as jarvan equals winning the lane to me

Playing lane trynd three times. I had nid twice and vlad once. I out csd both and only died because I got ganked every 3 minutes. Also when I say out cs. I mean by 20 to 30. Hextech revolver number 1 sustain on trynd.
JF dodger since 2009
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
July 28 2011 00:15 GMT
#277
Can somebody who owns him comment on whether Jax is as ridiculous right now as he looks on Jiji's stream?
craaaaack
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
479 Posts
July 28 2011 00:32 GMT
#278
eu west down?
▲ I was really thirsty while playing a match. All my teammates were gone, so I drank from the water bottle that was next to me. It was very good. I thank the owner of the bottle.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 28 2011 00:33 GMT
#279
On July 28 2011 09:06 Craton wrote:
Jiji been spamming games as AD lately. Seems likely he'll be the AD carry at the tourny (MLG/ESL?)

At least for Gamescon. I can't imagine them dumping Chauster for other possible tournaments later on because of him not being able to attend this one.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
July 28 2011 00:35 GMT
#280
On July 28 2011 09:32 craaaaack wrote:
eu west down?

Wukong Patch Time.
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