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Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 18:02:51
July 27 2011 17:52 GMT
#241
Holy crap just got my first penta in my 2nd game with MK ever. :O

SO HAPPEH

edit:
In case anyone's interested, my build was:
Dblade -> Mercs -> Phage into Trinity -> Last Whisper -> Hexdrinker

I know it's definitely not the best build, but it worked out pretty nicely for me with defensive seals/glyphs/quints :D.
derp
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
July 27 2011 17:53 GMT
#242
Healing your teammates isn't as powerful as being able to 1v5 the enemy team!
(too bad trynd still can't do that)
The changes really evened out his early game so that he can heal some even if zoned. I like.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 27 2011 18:06 GMT
#243
On July 28 2011 02:53 Tooplark wrote:
Healing your teammates isn't as powerful as being able to 1v5 the enemy team!
(too bad trynd still can't do that)
The changes really evened out his early game so that he can heal some even if zoned. I like.

As if he ever gets zoned. They evened out his early game so that he can auto minions vs a caitlyn who constantly harrasses you and you outheal her.
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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
July 27 2011 18:13 GMT
#244
So is Wukong OP? I haven't seen anybody play him in ranked yet.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 27 2011 18:15 GMT
#245
i dumped on one top last night with jarman, but well, it's my jarman, so who knows, maybe it's just me kicking ass /humble
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 18:49:01
July 27 2011 18:17 GMT
#246
btw, you can tell the difference between "stop juke" and decoy because he changes position unnaturally when he decoys(in case you believe phreak). Played vs one yesterday and he tried to stop juke and I got him down to half hp right away.

edit: (stream back http://www.justin.tv/shayuki)

I think I'll try trinity force on tryndamere now o.O taking suggestions
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Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 27 2011 18:45 GMT
#247
He's definitely not OP, but I don't think he's as bad as people initially suggested.

He's nothing like launch-day Yorick. He's pretty strong, but IMO could use some changes.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 27 2011 18:48 GMT
#248
If top lane wasnt completely broken atm he would be decent. But top lane is broken and he cant compete.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
July 27 2011 18:51 GMT
#249
I miss the days when Ashe was the most common solo mid B[
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 19:00:21
July 27 2011 18:56 GMT
#250
Imo Monkey King could do with 2 changes:

1) Base stat buff to make him a better jungler. He had no place in lane right now. Jungle is the most sensible place for him to be, and he has a good kit for it (autoattack timer reset, small aspd steroid, stealth, gap closer)--but he has too much trouble on reasonable jungle routes.

2) Buff the damage or scaling on ultimate. As it stands it has worse damage and worse scaling than Garen's E. Just like Leona's ult, it just doesn't feel "ultimate" enough in comparison to regular abilities.
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Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 19:36:54
July 27 2011 19:33 GMT
#251
i have a question: what determines which champions goes to which lanes (lets say in this current meta). like right now i can understand that support/carry bot works because carries can farm up and harass and also have presence over dragon.

but whats the difference between taking solo top and solo mid? i would assume that the more vulnerable would take top since ganks would typically come from just one route, whereas mid can be jumped on from either side. yet i see that sustainable champs are freefarming top and typically strong AP going mid. so i guess the better question is why go top over mid (or vice versa)

edit: also can you explain
On July 28 2011 03:48 Two_DoWn wrote:
If top lane wasnt completely broken atm he would be decent. But top lane is broken and he cant compete.

Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 27 2011 19:46 GMT
#252
The general way to go atm is support/carry bot, ap carry mid, tanky dps top. The reason ap is mid and tanky dps is top is that ap carrys tend to be better in the mid game, so they can gank top and bot better than a tanky dps top.

As for top lane and tanky dps: tanks are outdated in lol. Why play a tank who does no damage when you can play a character who can tank just as well, have more cc in most cases, and can do way more damage. Not to mention that most tanky dps have either shields or some form of sustain, which makes them VERY hard to lane against unless you have a shield or sustain yourself. And the monkey king has neither, so he cant compete.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
July 27 2011 19:53 GMT
#253
On July 28 2011 04:33 Simple wrote:
i have a question: what determines which champions goes to which lanes (lets say in this current meta). like right now i can understand that support/carry bot works because carries can farm up and harass and also have presence over dragon.

but whats the difference between taking solo top and solo mid? i would assume that the more vulnerable would take top since ganks would typically come from just one route, whereas mid can be jumped on from either side. yet i see that sustainable champs are freefarming top and typically strong AP going mid. so i guess the better question is why go top over mid (or vice versa)

edit: also can you explain
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On July 28 2011 03:48 Two_DoWn wrote:
If top lane wasnt completely broken atm he would be decent. But top lane is broken and he cant compete.


I'm not high-Elo but this is how I see it.

Mid lane has a lot of influence over dragon. This makes AP Burst casters with CC like Annie good because during the early-mid game where you contest dragon AP Burst casters are really lethal because people normally don't have much MRes and most casters rush Rabadons or something. The CC also influences teamfights heavily. Unless you counter pick to win the lane, say with Akali.

Solo top only has one path from the river which means heavy pushers like Teemo or Nid have a great time since they can control that once entrance and push hard. EU double AP means you just put another AP caster here but generally they have a way to influence dragon fights. For example, Karthus Global means he can just stay top lane and still have 4.5 v 4 at dragon, Malz top generally take teleport for teleward ganks/fights. Tanky DPS is generally very sustainable and win lanes a lot so they're always good for a solo lane. Then there's always counter picks with the aim of winning lane.

I hope that made sense. Maybe.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21246 Posts
July 27 2011 20:06 GMT
#254
Veigar has a new walk animation, and it is HORRID.

I fucking loved the old waddling animation, it was just so Veigar. Now it's like...ugh...terrible D:
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 27 2011 20:08 GMT
#255
On July 28 2011 03:56 TheYango wrote:
Imo Monkey King could do with 2 changes:

1) Base stat buff to make him a better jungler. He had no place in lane right now. Jungle is the most sensible place for him to be, and he has a good kit for it (autoattack timer reset, small aspd steroid, stealth, gap closer)--but he has too much trouble on reasonable jungle routes.

2) Buff the damage or scaling on ultimate. As it stands it has worse damage and worse scaling than Garen's E. Just like Leona's ult, it just doesn't feel "ultimate" enough in comparison to regular abilities.

Hey, garens E only takes bonus dmg into account while monkey kings takes all dmg, it actually does deal more dmg unless garen has like 6 bloodthirsters fully stacked
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 27 2011 20:12 GMT
#256
On July 28 2011 03:15 Mogwai wrote:
i dumped on one top last night with jarman, but well, it's my jarman, so who knows, maybe it's just me kicking ass /humble


i dumped on him as galio this morning too. +30 creeps and a kill on him with no jungle support. though to be fair he basically shrugged off my harass from levels 1-4 because of flat defensive runes and his passive
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Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
July 27 2011 20:15 GMT
#257
On July 28 2011 05:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Veigar has a new walk animation, and it is HORRID.

I fucking loved the old waddling animation, it was just so Veigar. Now it's like...ugh...terrible D:

was it like when they changed annies walk? that was horrendous
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 27 2011 20:19 GMT
#258
They changed Twitch walk + dance. He wobbles like a penguin.
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zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
July 27 2011 20:33 GMT
#259
On July 28 2011 05:19 HazMat wrote:
They changed Twitch walk + dance. He wobbles like a penguin.


Take wobble from Veigar, give Wobble to Twitch, put on trollface.
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
July 27 2011 21:24 GMT
#260
On July 27 2011 17:44 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 17:23 MoonBear wrote:
On July 27 2011 13:27 r33k wrote:
On July 27 2011 11:55 Jaso wrote:
On July 27 2011 11:54 Two_DoWn wrote:
On July 27 2011 11:49 Jaso wrote:
On July 27 2011 11:48 LaNague wrote:
On July 27 2011 11:43 Jaso wrote:
On July 27 2011 11:36 LaNague wrote:
cause everyone hates vlad and will never forgive him for his laning before the nerfs.
He has to suffor now.


I like how Riot employees that watch a stream just randomly decide to ban the streamers account if they dont like what they see.


Apparently it was only for 3 days, so I think it's more reasonable now that I know all the details.



its still a bit of a douche move to not just ay something when he announced it.


I still agree; the Reds must've seen or head about TSM's events and should have warned him. At the very least I think they could've just told him to stop doing what he was on stream before banning him.

Oh well, what's done is done. It's a good thing he wasn't permabanned.. that would truly suck.

What happened?


As part of TSM's "giving back to the community" events, Reginald was going to help some low-elo accounts get their elo up and in that process explain via livestream tactics and how to get through that ELO.

Apparently he didn't use his own accounts, so Riot banned him without notice. And they banned the account he was helping, too I believe.

How dumb is that.... We all know that it's in their EULA not to have more than one account but everyone and their mom has a smurf. Why not ban HS and jiji too then, or call them out instead of saying on stream "we tend to close an eye on that".

Just to clarify: The EULA and ToS does not forbid you from having multiple accounts. There's nothing wrong with that. What is against the EULA/ToS is account sharing.

For the most part, Riot tends to turn a blind eye to people account sharing in the same way that Blizzard tends to do. However, they don't want people explicitly encouraging it. That means that if people share accounts, it's okay if they don't make a big fuss about it. What Regi was doing probably urked someone in Riot CS because he was using someone else's account in a very public manner. Streaming the use of someone else's account and having lots of people see it is generally not approved of. (I think that's why Tech9 got banned?)

TL;DR
If you share accounts, don't stream it in front of thousands of people and make a news post about it.

What about the elo welfare thread? If a red sees it, would they ban me?

Didn't you know it was against the rules when you started it?lol
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