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GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
May 22 2011 15:24 GMT
#141
'GUYS I HAVE 700 WINS, THAT MEANS I KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME MORE THAN YOU'

Only notable thing other than mobility feedus.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 22 2011 15:26 GMT
#142
Rofl I got some guy... in his first game's uppermost report the comment was "WTF 140 leaves, ban this guy already" and along with that and the reported games... yeah pretty simple.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
May 22 2011 16:05 GMT
#143
On May 22 2011 20:09 lynx.oblige wrote:
How do you know if you successfully judge a case other than checking your IP in game? Is there like a record or something somewhere?


They intentionally don´t tell you. You get an e-mail with the amount of IP you get but nothing regarding the cases because you are supposed to judge based on what you think is right and not that gives you the most IP.

The scenario is that you could notice that you don´t get IP for pardoning "teachers", players that keep telling others how to play better.
Thus you get a conflict: pardon behavior that may be annoying but isn´t probatable vs. earning IP.

Right now the Tribunal is still in the test phases and is rigged against punishing innocents. I mean, 10 Games with an average of 7 reports... isn´t much of a decision. But what if it´s 3 games with 5 reports each? Should that guy get a warning or is that a case of a premade systematically reporting their enemies?
Kratisto
Profile Joined June 2008
United States199 Posts
May 22 2011 16:28 GMT
#144
I love using the Tribunal system, not because I'm eager to help Riot sort through conduct reports, and not because of the bonus IP. I'm infinitely entertained by the chat logs. 80% of the games in which someone is reported have infantile, rage-induced, vulgar arguments, and they're absolutely hilarious. Someone should put up a site where we can submit the best ones and vote on them.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 16:54:51
May 22 2011 16:51 GMT
#145
On May 22 2011 19:57 Zulit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 15:25 UniversalSnip wrote:
"Told us to eat shit & commented that my shoes were worn out... also said Im a hobo and i eat people"

12 games and every game 3-5 people from the enemy team reported him... not once did somebody from his own team report. wtf?

.......



"8. Understand what "Punish" means
"Punish" means that you believe some sort of action should be performed on this player - not necessarily a suspension or ban. It could be a warning or name change."

Basically, if they lose their temper and act like an utter asshole, not necessarily troll but simply act like a hotshotgg all game long ripping on some guy (and this happens in 13 games or something retarded like that), then "punish" is acceptable just for them to get something like, a warning. Such as "Shut up, your raging isn't helping this game. Grow up. *slaps wrist*"
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
May 22 2011 21:25 GMT
#146
The thing that bothers me about the tribunal is like I feel each game its own entity. I had a case where 6/10 of them i dont think were entirely punishable but the other 4 were pretty much his fault. Do you punish this person because they broke rules in 4 of the games or do you give them the benefit of the doubt because they had been reported several other times for things that weren't their fault?
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LancerStarcraft
Profile Joined July 2010
United States235 Posts
May 22 2011 21:31 GMT
#147
[image loading]

I think he wants to know why his team is attacking a tank of some sort?

I could be misinterpreting.
"Buy a ward. Stop a gank. Save a life."
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 22 2011 21:57 GMT
#148
On May 23 2011 06:25 Phrost wrote:
The thing that bothers me about the tribunal is like I feel each game its own entity. I had a case where 6/10 of them i dont think were entirely punishable but the other 4 were pretty much his fault. Do you punish this person because they broke rules in 4 of the games or do you give them the benefit of the doubt because they had been reported several other times for things that weren't their fault?

I personally think that even if it's just one serious offense, you should hit punish. If there are 12 games listed, and 11 are him carrying hard and being nice, and one game he goes 0-30-0 Mobility/Zeal, then I'm going to hit punish.
If it's only minor offenses, but many of them, that can warrant a punishment as well. All your judgement of course.

You only see a selection of games anyways. I wouldn't assume that those guys get 5+ reports in every single game they play (aside from the ones who do nothing but Mobility/Zeal feed every single game).
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Jupiter.sKy
Profile Joined December 2009
United States50 Posts
May 22 2011 22:07 GMT
#149
i don't know what to say, but just ran into nasol moment as one of my trib cases today
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 22 2011 22:10 GMT
#150
On May 23 2011 06:25 Phrost wrote:
The thing that bothers me about the tribunal is like I feel each game its own entity. I had a case where 6/10 of them i dont think were entirely punishable but the other 4 were pretty much his fault. Do you punish this person because they broke rules in 4 of the games or do you give them the benefit of the doubt because they had been reported several other times for things that weren't their fault?


(Travian MH side coming out be warned zzzzz)
Well with the tribunal, you have to look at them as a whole rather than separate cases imo. For example, the person could have just had bad games 6/10 times, but the other 4 if he's cursing people off, talking trash, intentially just trolling the crap out of everyone, that's still punishable, even if it's just a slap on the wrist by Riot. Remember, different cases but they're all of the same person. I know in Travian if someone did something really minor we'd ban them, wait for them to message us, and then unban them essentially with a slap on the wrist saying don't do it again. I'm sure it will be different with LoL but basically they don't deserve anything severe but they should at least know that it's not acceptable what they were doing. ;o

I think out of 12 cases I only pardoned 2, and those 2 were guys literally trying hard, with legit builds (well the one's build was subpar but you could tell he was trying) and even trying to help teach their teammates the game: "Don't be bot while baron's up." But they would get angry, call people noobs, etcetc, you know, regular raging but nothing super srs. None of that stupid fucking mobility + zeal crap "herpderp i'm midddd" and then not say anything for the rest of the game. -_-
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 22 2011 22:11 GMT
#151
If the guy has a shit ton of leaves/afks.. thats just so much worse than any kind of trash talking in my opinion. While the playing experience might not be very enjoyable, atleast you have a chance to win, not really if you're getting afkers/leavers.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 22 2011 22:18 GMT
#152
On May 21 2011 15:46 Zato-1 wrote:
If Riot really plans to reward 4 to 5 IP per correct vote, then... Fuck this. Not being worth my time is one thing, but giving such a pittance of a reward feels kind of insulting >>

Oh man thats depressing I just reviewed my first few cases and was going to ask when we get rewarded. Oh well if it really is that bad, at least this was fairly entertaining to do.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
May 22 2011 23:17 GMT
#153
On May 23 2011 07:11 Senx wrote:
If the guy has a shit ton of leaves/afks.. thats just so much worse than any kind of trash talking in my opinion. While the playing experience might not be very enjoyable, atleast you have a chance to win, not really if you're getting afkers/leavers.

yea, afk/leavers or intentional feeders are teh worst. if they're just offensive and verbal you have a /ignore function that works extremely well
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
May 22 2011 23:30 GMT
#154
I just punished a guy reported by me. What are the odds for that? :D
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
waffleduck
Profile Joined August 2010
125 Posts
May 22 2011 23:41 GMT
#155
I can't participate in this because i didn't know leaving at champ select counted as a leave
Natt
Profile Joined August 2010
France253 Posts
May 23 2011 01:08 GMT
#156
On May 23 2011 07:18 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 15:46 Zato-1 wrote:
If Riot really plans to reward 4 to 5 IP per correct vote, then... Fuck this. Not being worth my time is one thing, but giving such a pittance of a reward feels kind of insulting >>

Oh man thats depressing I just reviewed my first few cases and was going to ask when we get rewarded. Oh well if it really is that bad, at least this was fairly entertaining to do.


I actually read somewhere 500IP max per day.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
May 23 2011 01:46 GMT
#157
Can you find the quote for that? Because the only red post I could find for the past three days that named numbers said 1000+ IP per week given 30+ cases per day, which is not that encouraging.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
May 23 2011 02:00 GMT
#158
Tried it out just to see how it worked, regardless of how much IP I can hoard I won't participate since this really is supposed to be done by staff and not the players, but that is just my own way of seeing it.

But it seems rather one sided. Don't think I've issued a single pardon yet. I always go through all the games and while I can find sometimes up to 3 games where I would go "Well this is silly, why would you report someone for this" the other 7 are filled with so much shit not even a mother could love that.

I know it's supposed to be one sided but I wonder how anyone is going to be pardoned ever, best I've seen is someone get needlesly reported for 7 games but having 3 when he was a complete and utter asshat. But then again, even if it's just 1 game you balls it up, you should be punished.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
May 23 2011 02:14 GMT
#159
I just pardon people when the only thing they're reported for are offensive language 'cause honestly, the /ignore function is there for a reason.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 03:45:47
May 23 2011 03:40 GMT
#160
Lynerus[All] [03:50:21]: dont clowns have 3 points on the hat?
Lynerus[All] [03:50:26]: this one only got 2
Lynerus[All] [03:51:03]: its a jester hat
Lynerus[All] [03:51:10]: its 3 points whys this one only got 2.
Lynerus[All] [03:51:22]: fail riot
Lynerus[All] [03:51:38]: 3rd one should bw white
Lynerus[All] [03:51:41]: and in the center


edit: Also, finally got my first pardon. It was some dude who had 3 cases of leaving where he had maximum of 2-3 deaths where he says nothing in chat except for "massive lag spike." I feel like riot put this in there to see if people automatically vote punish on everything.
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