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NESL Official Stream: http://www.nationalesl.com/us/lol
You can find restreams on own3d.tv
Game 1:
+ Show Spoiler +LowElo: bans Urgot
CLG: bans Shaco/Rammus
LowElo: bans Sion/Singed
CLG: bans Janna
CLG: picks Shen
LowElo: picks Zilean / Corki
CLG: picks Warwick / Cho'Gath
LowElo: picks Twisted Fate / Alistar
CLG: picks Ashe / Kassadin
LowElo: picks Olaf
Team CLG:
bigfatlp (Kassadin) [Ignite/Ghost]
Chauster (Ashe) [Flash/Ghost]
saintvicious (Warwick) [Smite/Ghost]
HotShotgg (Cho'Gath) [Flash/Ghost]
Elementz (Shen) [Exhaust/Ghost]
LowElo:
Mibi (Zilean) [Flash/CV]
Achuu (TF) [Flash/Ghost]
Reposado (Corki) [Flash/Ghost]
Phatshady912 (Alistar)
Toxotes (Olaf) [Smite/Ghost]
CLG wins 14-3
Kills:
bigfatlp 6
Chauster 4
HSGG 4
game 2:
+ Show Spoiler +RS: bans Zilean
TSM: bans Rammus / Shaco
RS: bans Olaf / Irelia
TSM: bans Janna
TSM: picks Shen
RS: picks Nunu / Sion
TSM: picks Corki / Alistar
RS: picks Soraka / Singed
TSM: picks Malz / Trundle
RS: picks Ashe
Team SoloMid (TSM):
FeedFest (Shen) [Ghost/CV]
TheOddOne (Trundle) [Smite/Ghost]
locodoco (Corki) [Cleanse/Flash]
ReginaId (Malzahar) [Ghost/Flash]
Chaox (Alistar) [Ghost/Flash]
Rock Solid (RS):
L0CUST (L0CUST) [Smite/Ghost]
Naryt (Soraka) [Flash/CV]
scarra (Sion) [Flash/Ghost]
rambo (Singed) [Ignite/Ghost]
Voyboy (Ashe) [Flash/Ghost]
CLG wins 12-12
ReginaId 5
game 3
+ Show Spoiler +DAO: bans Zilean
CLG: bans Alistar / Rammus
DAO: bans Shen / Kassadin
CLG: bans Ashe
CLG: picks Corki
DAO: picks Janna / Cho'Gath
CLG: picks Amumu / Taric
DAO: picks Kennen / Olaf
CLG: picks Nidalee / Lux
DAO: picks Miss Fortune
Team CLG:
bigfatlp (Lux) [CV/Flash]
Chauster (Corki) [Flash/Ghost]
saintvicious (Amumu) [Smite/Ghost]
HotShotgg (Nidalee) [Flash/Ghost]
Elementz (Taric) [Exhaust/Ghost]
Defy All Odds:
Xpecial (Kennen) [Ignite/Flash]
RAYoRAY (Cho'Gath) [Ghost/Flash]
Neverlike (MF) [Flash/Ghost]
Ralk (Janna) [CV/Flash]
Ginormous Noob (Olaf) [Ghost/Smite]
CLG wins
bigfatlp 5
game 4
+ Show Spoiler +
OGB: bans Zilean
TSM: bans Shaco / Rammus
OGB: bans Sion / Alistar
TSM: bans Shen
TSM: picks Amumu
OGB: picks Irelia / Taric
TSM: picks Janna / Cho'Gath
OGB: picks Ryze / Singed
TSM: picks Urgot / Malz
OGB: picks Udyr
Team Team SoloMid (TSM):
Feedfest (Cho'Gath) [Ghost/Exhaust]
locodoco (Urgot) [Cleanse/Flash]
TheOddOne (Amumu) [Smite/Ghost]
Chaox (Janna) [Cleanse/Flash]
ReginaId (Malzahar) [Ghost/Flash]
Team Oh God Bears (OGB):
VMan7 (Ryze) [Ghost/Exhaust]
Imaqtpie (Singed) [Ghost/Flash]
Ghetto Fabulous (Udyr) [Smite/Ghost]
Becruchecl (Irelia) [Exhaust/Ghost]
Lightening (Taric) [Ghost/CV]
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Don't really have time to pretty up the OP. First game was CLG vs LowElo. Some livereporting was done in the General Discussion Thread.
Next up we have Team SoloMid (TSM) vs Rock Solid
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j/w, why are you/phreak keeping track of kills? is there a secondary prize for that?
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RS: bans Zilean
TSM: bans Rammus / Shaco
RS: bans Olaf / Irelia
TSM: bans Janna
TSM: picks Shen
RS: picks Nunu / Sion
TSM: picks Corki / Alistar
RS: picks Soraka / Singed
TSM: picks Malz / Trundle
RS: picks Ashe
Team SoloMid (TSM):
FeedFest (Shen) [Ghost/CV]
TheOddOne (Trundle) [Smite/Ghost]
locodoco (Corki) [Cleanse/Flast]
ReginaId (Malzahar) [Ghost/Flash]
Chaox (Alistar) [Ghost/Flash]
Rock Solid (RS):
L0CUST (L0CUST) [Smite/Ghost]
Naryt (Soraka) [Flash/CV]
scarra (Sion) [Flash/Ghost]
rambo (Singed) [Ignite/Ghost]
Voyboy (Ashe) [Flash/Ghost]
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On February 28 2011 06:43 gtrsrs wrote:
j/w, why are you/phreak keeping track of kills? is there a secondary prize for that?
There is a prize draw for picking the winning team and the player with the most kills.
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On February 28 2011 06:43 gtrsrs wrote:
j/w, why are you/phreak keeping track of kills? is there a secondary prize for that?
Find SYDTKO's thread in the Gen Forum on LoL forums. There is a prize for guessing who gets the most kills and which team wins finals, etc.
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i see
thank you
finding all the shaco bans strange
i thought at high elo shaco wasn't considered very strong
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Rammus+shaco banned again, as soon as someone bans Olaf we are going to see people panicking about junglers.
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FYI: Rock Solid is actually composed of a lot of guys from Reddit. I'm sure Jougo and Yiruru recognize a lot of them. It's probably Reddit's A team, minus Hotshot (who obv belongs with CLG)
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On February 28 2011 06:44 gtrsrs wrote:
i see
thank you
finding all the shaco bans strange
i thought at high elo shaco wasn't considered very strong
Can be countered but takes a lot more effort and coordination. Probably much easier for everyone if they just ban.
Secondly, like I said before, it's based on player ability, not so much champions themselves. Regi is a notorious Shaco.
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Anyone heard who TSM's 5th player is? Are they going to have dbl play or are they sticking to their usual lineup?
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Really interesting bans... Might have an amumu jungling of one team gets constructed around him.
rambo trolling, looks like chaox is filling the 5th slot on TSM.
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On February 28 2011 06:46 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 06:44 gtrsrs wrote:
i see
thank you
finding all the shaco bans strange
i thought at high elo shaco wasn't considered very strong Can be countered but takes a lot more effort and coordination. Probably much easier for everyone if they just ban. Secondly, like I said before, it's based on player ability, not so much champions themselves. Regi is a notorious Shaco.
Except that SoloMid banned Shaco, lol. I think it's more your first thought--Shaco/Rammus are among the champs more likely to let the worse team win via a strong single effort.
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Expecting Nayrt to be on soraka. He's been playing her a lot lately and really likes her.
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The team rosters should be as follows:
TSM: Chaox, TheOddOne, Reginald, locodoco, FeedFest (Doublelift)
RS: L0cust, Naryt, rambo, scarra, Voyboy (1hit1der, OXICLEAN)
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Jougo was on Atlanta's team (Goose). They didn't make it.
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Nailed the soraka pick, nice one.
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nice call two_down
i'm calling urgot last pick for one of them
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On February 28 2011 06:53 NeoIllusions wrote:
Jougo was on Atlanta's team (Goose). They didn't make it.
TY, removed.
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soraka singed we have done it. new f0tm yo
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Singed is going to have so much free farm...
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RS gonna take ashe
TSM gonna take urgot
count on it
YEAH DOUBLE AD COUNT ON IT
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On February 28 2011 06:54 gtrsrs wrote:
nice call two_down
i'm calling urgot last pick for one of them
I don't see urgot being likely on either team, he could be picked by RS but then their physical strength would be rather low. Other than that RS doesn't have any solos who lose to urgot yet. Ashe/sivir could be possible targets tho.
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On February 28 2011 06:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
Singed is going to have so much free farm...
Singed top, Sion bot? Tbh we still have to see the next 2 picks out of TSM to decide that.
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On February 28 2011 06:57 r33k wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 06:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
Singed is going to have so much free farm... Singed top, Sion bot? Tbh we still have to see the next 2 picks out of TSM to decide that.
nah, scarra is known for his sion. hes solo top. they will have a ranged carry mid. Soraka/singed is bot.
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On February 28 2011 06:57 r33k wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 06:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
Singed is going to have so much free farm... Singed top, Sion bot? Tbh we still have to see the next 2 picks out of TSM to decide that.
Sion Top, Singed Bot, baby sat by Soraka. I think TL ran this team, no? I heard Inept stomped.
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On February 28 2011 06:58 Brees wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 06:57 r33k wrote:On February 28 2011 06:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
Singed is going to have so much free farm... Singed top, Sion bot? Tbh we still have to see the next 2 picks out of TSM to decide that. nah, scarra is known for his sion. hes solo top. they will have a ranged carry mid. Soraka/singed is bot.
That was my initial feel too.
Uhh malz pick with trundle jungling on TSM's side. Weird choice on the jungler, I would have picked ww.
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Lolz, Loco dropping an f bomb on live teevee.
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malzahar sent top to counter sion
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loco so manner
not knowing when the picks are
talking to someone outside of game
swearing on stream
NICE
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Malz, but not going with ww to compliment. Kinda surprising.
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Calling loco on corki, regi or chaox on malz? I don't really see chaox dual laning...
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On February 28 2011 07:00 Two_DoWn wrote:
Malz, but not going with ww to compliment. Kinda surprising.
Malz is counter pick to Sion. Need a champion to be able to stop Sion free farm. Not much to choose from.
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On February 28 2011 07:02 r33k wrote:
Calling loco on corki, regi or chaox on malz? I don't really see chaox dual laning...
Chaox is support role for TSM. Loco on ranged DPS (Corki), Regi probably on Malz.
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On February 28 2011 07:02 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 07:00 Two_DoWn wrote:
Malz, but not going with ww to compliment. Kinda surprising. Malz is counter pick to Sion. Need a champion to be able to stop Sion free farm. Not much to choose from.
Yeah, but you'd figure you'd grab ww for double suppression over grabbing trundle if your already gonna have malz.
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Phreak got really red for a second lol... Feedfest has a solid shen, but tbh it's more likely to see chaox shen and FF alistar.
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Haha, I love Phreak. He is so annoyed by the guys in the lobby.
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On February 28 2011 07:05 Shiragaku wrote:
Haha, I love Phreak. He is so annoyed by the guys in the lobby.
Well rambo and loco are trolling him pretty hard.
I just noticed the Nunu-Ashe-Singed MASSIVE slowcombo, Sion is going to have no problem landing his shield on everyone should they need to convert into an AoE team.
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On February 28 2011 07:03 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 07:02 NeoIllusions wrote:On February 28 2011 07:00 Two_DoWn wrote:
Malz, but not going with ww to compliment. Kinda surprising. Malz is counter pick to Sion. Need a champion to be able to stop Sion free farm. Not much to choose from. Yeah, but you'd figure you'd grab ww for double suppression over grabbing trundle if your already gonna have malz.
OddOne is in love with Trundle as of late, if you've checked his recent ESL games.
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On February 28 2011 06:54 Brees wrote:
soraka singed we have done it. new f0tm yo
damn y0.
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Nvm chaox on Alistar, but is TSM going to bring cv? Their picks don't really support it.
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Team SoloMid (TSM):
FeedFest (Shen) [Ghost/CV]
TheOddOne (Trundle) [Smite/Ghost]
locodoco (Corki) [Cleanse/Flast]
ReginaId (Malzahar) [Ghost/Flash]
Chaox (Alistar) [Ghost/Flash]
Rock Solid (RS):
L0CUST (L0CUST) [Smite/Ghost]
Naryt (Soraka) [Flash/CV]
scarra (Sion) [Flash/Ghost]
rambo (Singed) [Ignite/Ghost]
Voyboy (Ashe) [Flash/Ghost]
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Why is corki not banned in these matches, he seems like a really popular pick and very strong. Isn't loco pretty well known for his corki skills aswell? Is it just a case of other champs being even more banworthy.
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the stream lags as soon as the game start. T.T
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TSM grouped at river. RS hiding at their base.
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Where is the official stream?
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Lanes
Corki vs Sion Alistar
Malz vs Ashe
Shen vs Soraka Singed
Alistar level 1 gank, or trying...
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On February 28 2011 07:11 Stealthpenguin wrote:
Why is corki not banned in these matches, he seems like a really popular pick and very strong. Isn't loco pretty well known for his corki skills aswell? Is it just a case of other champs being even more banworthy.
Loco is a great corki, but the character itself is not worth banning. Ranged carries don't dictate the pace of the game, you (sort of) need one but which one you pick is not going to make your game.
Also TSM's top lane plan was dumb, as soon as scarra hit lv2 he realized what was going on.
But roaming being pulled off in a top competitive game, let's see how it goes.
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Ashe half hp now after roaming cow came to visit.
Alistar going from top to mid, harass mid, back hiding in mid bottom brush.
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Sion came to try and stop Trundle at Red but Trundle was able to finish Lizard. Nunu came over to harass Trundle after Sion left but had to retreat. Nunu blew Ghost trying to get away after getting hit once by Red Trundle.
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Oddone forced to abort red, gets counterjungled by nunu who has to pull back and wastes ghost. Nunu went QEE?
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too bad rambo is horrible, shen outcsing both soraka and singed by himself lol. why they arent zoning i have no idea
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Corki outplaying Sion. Gatling breaking Sion Shield. Corki full hp. Sion half.
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Roaming cow catching Ashe, giving Malz first blood on Ashe.
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Scarra's shield falls to one Q and 1 auto of loco, lane is going to be tough for the sion, a switch would favor RS a ton.
FB onto ashe, nice flashgank from chaox.
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Scarra wastes his ult AND almost dies, is forced to run back.
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Corki forces Sion to retreat. Rockets Sion down to 80 hp but Corki doesn't chase. Nunu holding top.
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Sion forced to go sheen first, his stun will do no damage until the midgame. I'm curious about reginald's future build, voyboy with the pickaxe looks to be going for a LW.
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Trundle tries to gank Ashe but with Nunu near by, it becomes a counter gank. Trundle lives thanks to Shen ulti.
Free Dragon for TSM right after.
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Loco ate a full sion ult in his trade, both are now low but a situation is going on mid, no ganks top any time soon.
Free dragon under a ward for TSM, RS was too low to fight them.
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While im asking questions might throw out some more. The alistar is lvl 4 atm, I get that shen is getting that much more experience and a roaming cow makes everyone scared but is it worth it to roam that much. Won't he be pretty useless for midgame teamfights being a few lvls under duolane and like 4-5 lvls under solos.
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FeedFest only 1 level above RS's duo lane, 12 min manamune on corki is a good timing.
Mercs on ashe, questionable choice.
On February 28 2011 07:22 Stealthpenguin wrote:
While im asking questions might throw out some more. The alistar is lvl 4 atm, I get that shen is getting that much more experience and a roaming cow makes everyone scared but is it worth it to roam that much. Won't he be pretty useless for midgame teamfights being a few lvls under duolane and like 4-5 lvls under solos.
Alistar is a dotalike character, he is squishier than malzahar but immortal during his ult. Basically he has to be lv7 by midgame and lv11 by lategame, he can afford the exp deficit.
In soloqueue he is itemized for farming, in team games he is built for slightly higher survival but is still played as a ganker.
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On February 28 2011 07:22 Stealthpenguin wrote:
While im asking questions might throw out some more. The alistar is lvl 4 atm, I get that shen is getting that much more experience and a roaming cow makes everyone scared but is it worth it to roam that much. Won't he be pretty useless for midgame teamfights being a few lvls under duolane and like 4-5 lvls under solos.
That's the beauty of Alistar. It doesn't matter if he's underleveled. If he can Flash/Q, he's done his job in team fights.
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Trundle with oracle's.
Singed getting harassed by Alistar Shen. Soraka roaming now.
Malz Trundle Corki stealing TS's Blue. Malz with Blue, Trundle with Blue now.
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Aggressive action going on at RS's blue, will get stolen by malzahar. Dragon will be up soon.
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Sion manages to get his farm back and will ditch the sheen for a rabadon, escapes a close gank almost getting caught by trundle dildo.
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Singed down, after overextending bot. But poison revenge kills on Shen.
Malz tries to gank bot but Sion too passive. So TSM takes out Top Outer tower. Sion dies while trying to retreat.
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Rambo gets a 1-1 trade, but top tower gets pushed by TSM's 2 carries. Scarra survived and then suicided.
Towerdive gives TSM 2 free kills one of which was nunu's oracle. TSM has a solid advantage, dragon up.
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TSM take out Top Inner Tower but Singed Fling + Sion Stun = dead Malz.
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Trundle solos dragon, top gets pushed but RS manages to kill reginald in return. 18 minutes in and Sion still doesn't have a rabadon.
A new item is probably close on corki, ashe and nunu on RS's side have no items.
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Regi going for roa, unfortunately he only built his roa as he died, stats will take some time to accumulate.
TSM top tower falls, but so does RS's mid.
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Team Objectives: TSM up 2 Dragons, 3 Towers (Both top, Mid Outer)
Nunu disconnects...
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700 global gold advantage on TSM's side, shen is farmed and LOCUST DCS.
rage? Game looks lost for RS regardless.
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Singed 1k+ gold away from his rylai's, chaox has his full core items. RS's bot tower falls, soraka is farming but won't really be able to carry his team anywhere.
23 min IE on ashe, corki has a cleaver and sheen 24 minutes in.
Locust reconnects after 5 minutes.
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TSM has Baron area (RS's jungle) all warded. Doing 4-1 pushes with Shen bot solo. Rest mid.
Nunu reconnects.
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4v5 at RS's Mid Inner tower. Ashe throws Arrow on Malz but Alistar intercepts.
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Core items complete on TSM's carries, looks like they are just going to win the war of attrition, towerdive leads to a big teamfight.
RS comes out with a 4-1 kill difference, the score is now RS 6 - 5 TSM.
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TSM takes down Inner Tower and tries to initate but fails. TSM loses 4 members.
Singed takes out Malz who tried to retreat.
Trundle solos another Dragon.
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Another free dragon for TSM as RS was healing, scarra has his rabadon and picked up a negatron. He is now 1125g away to a banshee's veil should he opt for one.
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TSM baiting Baron. 4-1 setup yet again. Shen bottom.
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Top fight. Trundle takes out Soraka first. TSM fighting 4v5. Sion downs Alistar. 1-1 trades. Shen continues to push bottom.
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It should be noted that the kills in the teamfight were picked up by rambo (2 kills) and locust.
Sion rushes a QSS as the game pace has sped. Teamfight at the top lane soon, ashe botches the arrow, sion wastes flash, RS will get pushed in.
TSM forgets about what happens if you chase a singed, Chaox gets reminded.
Baron for TSM as RS is healing, Shen pushes the inhib tower.
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sigh cant watch this shit. lagging
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TSM tries to Baron with Corki, Trundle, Malz. 3v5 fight now. Malz dies to Sion. Sion double kills on Trundle. Ashe downs Shen.
TSM gets Baron but loses 3 members. Alistar and Corki have Baron still.
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TSM go for nash, get it but lose like 3 heroes. >_<
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Finally a kill for ashe, scarra is the one getting the money on RS's side, 3-0 teamfight won by RS, loco and chaox still have baron on TSM's side.
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TSM 5 man bottom now. All of RS towers are down. Inhibitor towers left.
TSM 6-10 RS
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ummm did i just hear phreak right?
he's saying that banshee + deathcap would be better than RoA + rylai + NLR?? it would be "not only more survivability, but also more damage"
then follows that up with "i always like to point out mistake that top players make" lmao
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Voyboy is completely off his game tonight, keeps missing arrows and kills, now going for his lw.
Interestingly enough oddone is building triforce on trundle with no defensive items.
Malzahar's RoA reaches full charges, looks like another dragon for TSM.
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On February 28 2011 07:42 gtrsrs wrote:
ummm did i just hear phreak right?
he's saying that banshee + deathcap would be better than RoA + rylai + NLR?? it would be "not only more survivability, but also more damage"
then follows that up with "i always like to point out mistake that top players make" lmao
yeah... someone should point that out to him. He's wrong. Regi's build is right. He needs the AP. At least he can cast a few more times. With Cap/Banshee, he'd get one set of spells casts then dies.
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Team fight again. Nunu with Oracle dies again. Malz kills Ashe. TSM back to pushing bot.
Singed caught by Pulverize/Headbutt + Malz Ulti but managed to live and run away. No gas harass. TSM steamrolls 2 RS players right after without Singed there. Nunu is way underleveled/underfarmed.
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Don't listen to phreak, rylai's is a staple item on malz and so is catalyst. As they were going for a 30+ minute game RoA helped provide even more health. Reginald is now sitting at 3.2k HP.
The conversion from dragon gave TSM 2 kills (one of which on ashe) and doublebuff, their advantage is more and more solid.
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yeah i can't imagine that banshee's health is higher than rylai's + roa, not to mention the HUGE aoe slow and mana bonuses
phreak kinda silly
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Ashe will try and go for a banshee's veil next but we are now 36 minutes in and he only has catalyst. Triforce close to completion for oddone, baron up.
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Shen solo pushing bot Inhibitor Tower. RS sends 2 players against Shen. Gives TSM another free Baron.
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gr8 shen play
he must have read my guide
why are people not banning shen, sogut
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On February 28 2011 07:46 gtrsrs wrote:
yeah i can't imagine that banshee's health is higher than rylai's + roa, not to mention the HUGE aoe slow and mana bonuses
phreak kinda silly
Banshee is built off of catalyst too, which is probably why phreak mentioned it. But in a game where the duration is already known to you it's perfectly legit to pick a roa.
Free baron and blue steal for TSM. BV on corki.
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Trundle with Wiggle's Trinity. TSM has Baron, Elixir bought. Pushing RS now.
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global gold TSM: 2260 - RS:150
kills TSM: 8 - RS: 10
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4-1 push by TSM again. Shen top. 4 bot.
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Recurve bow on shen, could possibly get turned into a late starks given how farmed he is. Faster ki strikes following good taunts are really good.
Doublepots on trundle, 4man push bot.
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Voyboy wasted his ult and rambo gets pinned and killed. Tower and inhib go down, TSM will convert to the mid tower.
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Singed gets Flash Pulverize + Malz pool/Ulti. Singed dies. Bottom Inhib dies. Mid gets down with Trundle tanking Tower. Mid Inhibitor half life. Mid Inhib dies. TSM retreats with no losses. Shen mass tanking all of RS's DPS (mostly Ashe's)
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Mid inhib goes down aswell, regi's doublepots and hassive hp pool allow him to tank everything RS throws at him.
Another dragon for TSM, since everyone potted let's see if they are going to do another push in the next 2 minutes.
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recurve doesn't change ki strike speed though
looks like he's going BR
troll
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I have to say, disappointing lack of farm on locust. Only having a BV when he should have had SV+BV.
Shen solopushing bot nexus towers as the rest of TSM is bullying RS up top. Top is going to fall aswell.
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NICE DEFENSE
too late though
they needed that earlier
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While rambo violates loco's least manly parts, the siege creeps make short work of their bot nexus tower, RS's chances to come back are closer and closer to null.
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TSM loses a team fight at top Inhibitor Tower. Trundle gets stunlocked while under Tower aggro. Singed dives for Corki, giving the last hit to Ashe. TSM loses 2 players for nothing. However super creeps take out a single Throne Tower.
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Reginald has 3.5k hp and close to 500 ap, baron gets picked up again while RS was clearing creeps.
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god phreak just shut up
HP is not an unnecessary stat on malzahar lmao
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Why Phreak thinks pure AP (read: don't get HP) build for Malz is good is beyond me.
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Game is over. TSM wins. ;o huk
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What would have been the correct way for RS to combat this 4-1 push style. Would someone like TF be a good counterpick for shen? I know TF isn't really considered high level material but they are just getting wrecked by the split push and he could basically nullify the global advantage.
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Final push mid for TSM, top inhibitor goes down for RS aswell.
Final teamfight sees Sion explode but the game is done.
GG.
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On February 28 2011 07:56 Stealthpenguin wrote:
What would have been the correct way for RS to combat this 4-1 push style. Would someone like TF be a good counterpick for shen? I know TF isn't really considered high level material but they are just getting wrecked by the split push and he could basically nullify the global advantage.
L0cust fucked up hard. As I said before, he had BV when he should have had SV+BV. The global gold won TSM the game, and naryt was never really relevant.
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On February 28 2011 07:56 Stealthpenguin wrote:
What would have been the correct way for RS to combat this 4-1 push style. Would someone like TF be a good counterpick for shen? I know TF isn't really considered high level material but they are just getting wrecked by the split push and he could basically nullify the global advantage.
ban shen lol
or if you're going to let the other team have shen, you need to win your other lanes before he hits 6 so he can't make every lane unkillable and then the split-push too strong
i missed the middle of the game but really really poor ashe play for the mostpart and nunu didn't really do jack-all (backing up my claim for worst champ in the game in arranged 5s) and loco's team (TSM?) just played too well
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Loci not getting any playing time again  (((((((((
Team rosters:
CLG: Chauster, BigfatIp, Elementz, Saintvicious, HSGG, (Locicero)
DAO: Ginormous Noob, RAYoRAY, Neverlike, Ralk, Xpecial
and NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOPE NATION LOST (((((((((((((
Bans are Zilean, Alistar, Rammus, Shen, Kass, Ashe with DAO taking first ban.
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DAO: bans Zilean
CLG: bans Alistar / Rammus
DAO: bans Shen / Kassadin
CLG: bans Ashe
CLG: picks Corki
DAO: picks Janna / Cho'Gath
CLG: picks Amumu / Taric
DAO: picks Kennen / Olaf
CLG: picks Nidalee / Lux
DAO: picks Miss Fortune
Team CLG:
bigfatlp (Lux) [CV/Flash]
Chauster (Corki) [Flash/Ghost]
saintvicious (Amumu) [Smite/Ghost]
HotShotgg (Nidalee) [Flash/Ghost]
Elementz (Taric) [Exhaust/Ghost]
Defy All Odds:
Xpecial (Kennen) [Ignite/Flash]
RAYoRAY (Cho'Gath) [Ghost/Flash]
Neverlike (MF) [Flash/Ghost]
Ralk (Janna) [CV/Flash]
Ginormous Noob (Olaf) [Ghost/Smite]
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I think having 1 teleport on RS would've been nice against Shen as well (probably on either Singed or Sion), but honestly a lot more went wrong for them than just not having an answer to Shen.
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CLG is gonna clean up
if my team can beat DAO then clg should mop the floor with them
also i bet loci doesn't mind the lack of playtime when his team wins $5 anyways ;P
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Junglers are picked by both teams so far, with CLG taking amumu and DAO taking olaf.
HSGG GETS NIDALEE so this is going to be fun. I'd like to see Elementz being switched out and have Loci on lux.
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wtf nidalee pick
who even picks nidalee
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On February 28 2011 08:02 gtrsrs wrote:
CLG is gonna clean up
if my team can beat DAO then clg should mop the floor with them
also i bet loci doesn't mind the lack of playtime when his team wins $5 anyways ;P
They got lux, so he might get switched in. That's what I'm hoping for at least.
Janna/Cho bot for DAO looks really gay, but lux is perfectly fine farming against the double delayed aoe cc.
Corki vs MF will be the carry war. While I normally don't like MF for arranged team play, her synergy with Kennen is quite good.
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yeah and i feel like MF is a really good choice to not lose the lane or maybe even win against Corki
i guess... wait for amumu ult then janna ults then kennen and MF run in and do their shit? not sure how teamfights are gonna go with the amumu/kennen/janna anti-synergy
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Too bad DOA is aboutta get xpecial'd
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Nope no loci
Olaf should be able to gank bot, although I haven't really seen any of jiji's lux to say anything.
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phreak: *snort* WAAWAWAWAWWAWAW *snort*
lol
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Kennen vs Nidalee, gonna be lolz
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Phreak thinks cho will solo and MF will duo? I wasn't really listening.
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I think CLG should try to poke with Nid/Corki/Lux (plus Taric healing) and take advantage of DAO not having sustainable heals or any great initiator.
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CLG moving over to river. DAO staying on their own side. Kennen top.
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^Yup, HS and Chauster are the kings of poking already, I am extremely interested in what build HS will go for.
Aggressive opening from CLG, let's see if they will steal blue.
Kennen starting top, does not join his team in the jungle. Xpecial expecting ganks starts with regen pendant.
Jiji starts with the small mana regen thing.
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WTF Phreak? Is he REALLY surprised by someone starting with rejuv bead? It's an AWESOME starting item, you get like free SOTS and later you sell it losing like 70g?
Like seriously, i've been experimenting with other openings after doran's nerf and rejuv bead + pots is awesome
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Phreak knocking on Rejuv Kennen. Riot casters soooo confused.
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Lux firstbloods MF... Riot too busy talking about Kennen for us to see firstblood.
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HS healed amumu as he was doing blue, FB MID GETS DIVED AND STUFF. Camera missed that, the lux gets the money. Olaf forced to hold, can't kill more than 2 creeps.
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FUCK
i saw taric on the minimap going to MF and phreak wouldn't shut up and look mid so i clicked minimap to look mid and i paused the stream and missed the killFUUUUU
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Cho being babysat by Janna bot. Amumu 5-10 seconds ahead of Olaf.
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Saint using one tantrum more than he should have, but jungles are fine. MF opening dblade is probably already regretting it.
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Amumu finishes first round and buys Boots.
Corki real idle.
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Olaf with the 2 extra cs mid manages to get a razor before b, chauster afk/dc as saint has to cover mid.
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chauster dc and hotshot pushing
PERFECT TIME FOR OLAF GANK GOGO OLAF
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Janna places vision ward on Dragon. Amumu forced to hold mid.
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Philo stone on Lux, most likely won't be turned into a shurelia's.
DAO with some nice ward coverage, but with bot being harassed they won't be able to make up for the 4v5.
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Buff-less Olaf coming to gank Bot. Taric returns home.
DAO trying to get dragon while Corki d/c'd. Cho lanes bot while Olaf Janna MF down Dragon.
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nice stealing dragon while chauster is out
that's smart play, neverlike is so happy right now
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Corki reconnects. Kennen zoning Nid hard.
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7 minute dragon for DAO, Chauster needs to reconnect or they are fucked. Taric taking the solomid vs mf, won't be able to do much.
HS losing to Xpecial, Chauster reconnects 3 lvls behind MF.
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
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Real gank on Kennen. Nid and Amumu both down to 80 hp.
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Elementz farmed a catalyst already, AMAZING flash from xpecial BUT TOP GANK SUCCESSFUL, both survive with less than 50 hp each.
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Chauster somehow managed to almost kill MF who is 3 lvls above him. Solo janna barely survives the laser from lux.
Chogath is still unable to roam as janna proved that he can't hold the lane on his own. Still no items on janna.
Failed gank mid burns MF's flash, but xpecial gets even more freefarm top.
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Taric Lux combo barely kill Janna. Escapes with under 100 hp again.
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amumu had single digit health and nidalee had < 50 for SURE
damn that was slick play by kennen, to bad it didn't pay ou
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Amumu owns Kennen again. He leads with Ulti first. Preventing Kennen from Rushing back.
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xpecial just got xpecial'd
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Gank again onto xpecial, his 10 cs lead will not keep him ahead of HS when he's 2 kills behind.
3-0 kill situation, no wards top for DAO (do need traps still sweep wards?)
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Olaf comes to hold top. Amumu backs. Top outer tower is down to 200 hp.
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MF with BF Sword. Kennen with NLR already.
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Xpecial now has boots + NLR (12. minute)
Chauster DC again
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Still no oracles on the junglers, but Chauster is definitely coming back vs mf, who was holding back for a BFS.
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CHAUSTER DC AGAIN oh fuck...
Second free dragon for DAO, clg isn't able to chase. More freefarm for xpecial.
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Chauster d/c's again. Amumu with oracles forced to hold mid again.
Second free Dragon for DAO.
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phreak legit just said ninja tabi would be a good choice against nidalee/corki/lux/cho'gath/amumu
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On February 28 2011 08:22 gtrsrs wrote:
phreak legit just said ninja tabi would be a good choice against nidalee/corki/lux/cho'gath/amumu
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Dodge dem lazors yo.
Oracles on squishyasfucknoitems janna, will this mean that Olaf is saving for soemthing? Xpecial's tower up top is really low, a gank is about to go down mid onto chauster.
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Amumu has an oracle but he can't even use it for gaining dragon superiority cause of Chauster's DCs - DAO takes another dragon. Janna bought oracle as well
Jiji farmed NLR from sidelane already
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How is phreak 2k? Any time I see him on stream people are lamenting his bad play, and he misses a LOT of shit on the minimap, and his top tier game play knowledge just seems lacking.
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Once again Phreak donks. Expects Cho to build Aegis.
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Double hog on saint, misses a ward, cho gets baited and raped. Overkill from CLG, burning 2 ults but also taking bot tower.
NLR on lux. Phreak is impressed for some unknown reason.
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Taric pro baits Cho. Taric stuns then Amumu Lux 3-1 rapes Cho. Take out bottom tower.
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Team Objectives:
DAO: 2 Dragons
CLG: 2 Towers and 4 Kills.
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CLG 4 man top after out towers drops. This buys more time for Corki to farm mid and catch up.
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HS going full poke, keeps the tower up for a possible dive. Spear harass forces xpecial back, HS decides to just push.
Teamfight could possibly go down top, ginormous gets caught and brought to half hp, the supports pressure as HS and amumu go mid to gank MF.
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MF dies while Phreak tries to guess which runes does Janna use. Yeahhhh important stuff...
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Its official. Phreak never looks at the minimap. Seriously, worst obs ever.
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MF dies again to Corki, Amumu, Nid. Cho free farming bot to regain stacks.
Corki Taric Amumu Lux mid vs Janna Olaf. Nid goes bot to stop Cho
Mid outer tower down. CLG has taken down all outer towers.
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Chauster only has a 19 min manamune, but HS is extremely close to his rabadon.
Xpecial opting to go for double NLR and turn them into stuff later, DAO wants to force a fight @dragon.
Did dragon get stolen? Elementz dies there, Chauster DC again, HS has his rabadon and MF is close and closer to IE.
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Chauster's third DC while fighting for dragon LOL.
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DAO grouped for 3rd dragon. CLG trying to collapse on but Amumu way out of position. Taric dies as a result. Corki d/c for 3rd time.
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Cho is close to unkillable mode, almost has his BV and has a hog and cdr boots.
Elementz going soul shroud, I strongly disagree with the item pick if they can't count on chauster.
rabadon on lux aswell.
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Taric stun + Lux E = under half hp Kennen from one combo.
Lux has Deathcap, so good.
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Janna is DAO's weakest link right now, with MF being extremely squishy aswell. I don't like with nofarm janna being forced into buying oracles that early.
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CLG holding off DAO from mid tower thanks to lasers and spears.
Corki reconnects. DAO forces to recall to heal.
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MF is sent freefarm top as DAO tries 4man pushing mid, they are mostly waiting for the IE. Kennen manages to escape the poking, has his rabadon but is still far from zhonya.
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A lot of traps in DAO's top jungle, I would like CLG to do some aggression onto DAO's blue golem.
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CLG light on wards but Nid traps giving plenty of warning.
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Anyone got the link for the stream?
Edit: found it, my bad.
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Amumu mis-engages. MF picks up 2 kills while CLG gets 1 kill. DAO gets a 4th Dragon.
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CLG pulling DAO at baron, they have been sitting around too much tho, they eat a full MF ult as they focus cho, cho finally dies with all of DAO low but some really poor targeting from CLG.
Free dragon on DAO and bot tower really low for CLG. Olaf extremely close to his BV, corki only has manamune and sheen.
HS dying was actually good for CLG, as he was close to killstreak range and would have been worth a lot more had he picked up 1 more kill.
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nah that was a good engage by amumu but RAY actually made the right move and beelined for corki instead of turning back to help his own champs
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Wait, did DAO really get this dragon? Why does teemo still have 450 gold? I'm... confused
Oh ok, r33k is right. I'm blind and stupid, 150 gold is a tower not dragon
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On February 28 2011 08:37 Kaniol wrote:
Wait, did DAO really get this dragon? Why does teemo still have 450 gold? I'm... confused
Observer is with CLG?
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On February 28 2011 08:37 gtrsrs wrote:
nah that was a good engage by amumu but RAY actually made the right move and beelined for corki instead of turning back to help his own champs
What are you talking about. Amumu was half a screen away from the rest of his team after the bandage and ulti. Not to mention Cho wasn't hit by Amumu's ulti meant Cho could beeline onto Corki, forcing Corki out of battle.
zzz
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phreak sees rejuv, chain vest, and HoG in cho's inventory
phreak: "chogath definitely going for sunfire next"
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On February 28 2011 08:37 gtrsrs wrote:
nah that was a good engage by amumu but RAY actually made the right move and beelined for corki instead of turning back to help his own champs
Imo CLG should have just gone on janna and MF right away. Neither of them has any survivability.
Oh come on Chauster DC again...
As soon as Janna gets aegis and Cho gets randuins DAO can just 5man push and win the game.
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cho has hog, chain vest, the small bead thing. So obviously he's going for sunfire. Go Phreak!
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yeah CLG should have traded 5-dc corki for actively farming MF + janna, r33k is right
i mean it was a good move by mumu, a better move by RAY, then a bad countermove by CLG
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Kennen doing what he does best (Xpecial) free farming top. Corki d/c again, letting DAO take their first tower.
Nid has Deathcap + Void Staff.
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Is this bo1 or bo3? Cause we might just see CLG being eliminated and miss CLG vs TSM.
EDIT: 30k viewers. Nice one LoL.
EDIT2: I really have to poop. Neo can you finish up the play-by-play? NICE ZHONYA'd lux ult by xpecial...
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CLG roaming 5 man, trying to find Baron opening.
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(purple side playing in favor of DAO, saved them 2 barons)
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"Getting randuins, still a good item. I think he should still get a sunfire."
when CLG is entirely magic. GJ phreak. Nice to have ya here.
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Mass pokes on CLG causes DAO out of position (retreating too much). CLG claims first Baron.
Then leads to first Dragon for CLG.
DAO minions take out first tower, bottom outer.
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Kennen takes second outer tower, top. CLG collapsing down mid.
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CLG sieging Mid Inner Tower. Mass pokes from Spears and Lux. Caster commentating how jiji is keeping CLG in this game after Chau's d/c's.
CLG shifts bot to push that inner tower. DAO regroups in time. Inner tower at half hp. Nid continues to Spear from left flank while Lux from bottom. Creep waves pushing, giving Corki free auto attacks. Bottom Inner Tower is gone.
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Chauster stopped DCing and suddenly game becomes one-sided
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Corki now has some respectable items, and this position is where nidalee shines the most. Oracles on Nid just to ensure complete map dominance on clg, bot tower goes to half hp and DAO misses a possible good engage onto amumu.
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nice, finally get to see the loco-relayed hotshot idea on nid: just get high AP, siege towers, enemy team can't respond
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CLG sieging Mid Inner Tower now. MF down to 1/3 life after Spear + Lazer 2hitcombo. CLG steals DAO lizard for Corki.
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On February 28 2011 08:48 Kaniol wrote:Chauster stopped DCing and suddenly game becomes one-sided
The difference in skill is just too big.
The game has been back to pushing/harassing mid, with CLG only moving around to take DAO's buffs.
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While CLG is poking the crap out of DAO, you have to be wary of Kennen. He's so farmed with Deathcap, Zhonya's and Void Staff. One good team fight for DAO, it could mean bad things for CLG.
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Casters going about the chalice dilemma, tbh I don't feel like it was a bad choice of elementz to buy it. It allowed him to lane bot with a decisive advantage and a faster BV wouldn't have done much for him.
3 BVs on DAO, spears are now much less of a threat.
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DAO pushing down mid now. CLG 4 defending while Corki solo farms bottom. But CLG's pokes continue to keep them at bay. DAO regrouping, rushing bot now towards Corki.
Corki d/c's yet again and DAO picks him off. CLG smartly responds by taking out Mid Inner Tower. DAO now pushing Mid again.
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Corki solopushing, dcing, feeding. CLG tries to make lemonade out of lemons and takes mid tower.
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Jiji going for a zhonya aswell, CLG still with no aegis.
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A solid looking dive from DAO mid turned into a 1-3 situation in favor of CLG, with the turret holding.
Cho might have fucked up big time by flashing onto Kennen, he DID hide him and all but he also fucked up his targeting. Xpecial couldn't do anything in that teamfight after the ult.
BARON up, CLG gets split while trying to ward and elementz gets eaten, 570 AP on nidalee is a lot, chauster who is now back runs into a ward and almost gets raped, having no stuns on demand really hurt DAO right there.
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On February 28 2011 08:49 r33k wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 08:48 Kaniol wrote:Chauster stopped DCing and suddenly game becomes one-sided The difference in skill is just too big. The game has been back to pushing/harassing mid, with CLG only moving around to take DAO's buffs.
I feel like DAO got outpicked too. They can't compete in a pokefest and they have no one like Malph or Amumu who can turn a pokefest into a teamfight, or someone like TF or Shen who can just go solopush and force something that way. So they just get caught in a pokefest and eventually get worn down.
It's clear that CLG is really fucking good and that's why they're able to be ahead despite Chauster's DCs, but I think with even skill on either side and no repeated disconnects CLG's team comp wins.
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Lux double kills. Lux + Nid snipe Olaf. CLG 3-1 DAO trade but CLG's mid inner tower still standing.
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That was a really great position play by Xpecial but amazing play by Jiji and Hotshot to win that team fight 4v5.
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another meh ulti from mumu. He keeps barely missing. They're good ults imo, but not optimal.
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Can u add a link to the OP? where can i watch this? nvm... ESL.tv, duh
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Despite d/c 1/3 of the game, Corki has Manamune, Trinity, and Negatron. Both teams grouping up for Baron.
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For anyone wondering if you should watch DAO vs CLG - previous game (solomid vs Rock Solid) was waaay cooler
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Taric is picked off. 4v5 near Baron but Lux lasers forces DAO back yet again. CLG tries to start baron again.
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CLG decides to abort the baron, I sort of agree with their decision although if they had gone all out on it they could have taken with 2 ppl at base.
DAO now closing in to baron, chauster farming the lanes that automatically get pushed is getting a ton of gold and xp.
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Chauster dc again as DAO is fully healed and pushing mid.
One tower will fall, let's see how DAO will follow it up.
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DAO pushing down mid. Inner tower down. 4 DAO pushing with Kennen at flank as usual. Corki has d/c yet again. CLG trying to keep DAO back with pokes. Nid on left flank with spears. Kennen at right flank waiting for DAO initation. Corki returns.
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DAO really looked a gifthorse in the mouth by not going tower->baron and instead going tower->stand around doing nothing while chauster dc'd again
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I really like how CLG's 4 non dc-ing player are staying mid being a constant threat, so that when their lanes get pushed Chauster has some huge waves of gold and xp to farm.
On February 28 2011 08:59 gtrsrs wrote:
DAO really looked a gifthorse in the mouth by not going tower->baron and instead going tower->stand around doing nothing while chauster dc'd again
They were probably hoping to get inhib right away but yeah, bad decision.
Fail dive mid will lead to a 4-0? Ace?
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CLG trying to exploit the respawn timers to win the game before Chauster DCs again.
GG. CLOSE FUCKING CALL.
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Fail DAO push causing 4 players to die. CLG takes down mid inhibitor. Going for throne now. CLG wins.
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Wow ... crazy finish to that game. CLG soooooo gud ...
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Holy.....
Skill difference SO big. CLG wins what is essentially a 4v5.
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Chauster 0/1/7 ^^
Up next we have qtpie, lightening, ghetto fabulous, becrrutchecl and vman's team vs TSM.
SOLOMID PLZ FIELD DBL PLZPLZPLZPLZ
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ggyonore.
CLG rapin despite Chauster's dc lol. beastttttttttt
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That game was craaaaaaaaaazy. Clg too good.
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I know I've said I've been waiting to see CLG lose, but if they had lost that game I would have been mad. They better get Causter a better connection for the final...
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Chauster had the highest CS in that game despite all those disconnects. Smart of CLG to let him farm all the waves whenever he was connected.
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the best parts of these games are honestly phreak's ill-informed advice
honestly, i'm not even good at this game and i could cast it better than he
i don't even dislike phreak, i like his spotlights and he's well intentioned but jesus christ for a RIOT employee his game knowledge is terrible
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On February 28 2011 09:03 gtrsrs wrote:
the best parts of these games are honestly phreak's ill-informed advice
honestly, i'm not even good at this game and i could cast it better than he
i don't even dislike phreak, i like his spotlights and he's well intentioned but jesus christ for a RIOT employee his game knowledge is terrible
Yeah, pretty much. He never looks on the minimap, seems to think that we care wether or not the players have movespeed quints, and has absolutely no knowledge of top tier item builds.
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On February 28 2011 09:03 gtrsrs wrote:
the best parts of these games are honestly phreak's ill-informed advice
honestly, i'm not even good at this game and i could cast it better than he
i don't even dislike phreak, i like his spotlights and he's well intentioned but jesus christ for a RIOT employee his game knowledge is terrible
Riot employees who aren't called Guinsoo are notorious for their lack of knowledge of the game. No news here :/
Bans: Zilean, Shaco, Rammus, Alistar, Sion, Shen with OGB taking first ban.
I think TSM is going for the bait and switch. Please tell me you are doing it...
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I too would have been a bit disappointed if CLG did lose that one, considering the mass disconnects. However they really are too strong.
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OGB: bans Zilean
TSM: bans Shaco / Rammus
OGB: bans Sion / Alistar
TSM: bans Shen
TSM: picks Amumu
OGB: picks Irelia / Taric
TSM: picks Janna / Cho'Gath
OGB: picks Ryze / Singed
TSM: picks Urgot / Malz
OGB: picks Udyr
Team Team SoloMid (TSM):
Feedfest (Cho'Gath) [Ghost/Exhaust]
locodoco (Urgot) [Cleanse/Flash]
TheOddOne (Amumu) [Smite/Ghost]
Chaox (Janna) [Cleanse/Flash]
ReginaId (Malzahar) [Ghost/Flash]
Team Oh God Bears (OGB):
VMan7 (Ryze) [Ghost/Exhaust]
Imaqtpie (Singed) [Ghost/Flash]
Ghetto Fabulous (Udyr) [Smite/Ghost]
Becruchecl (Irelia) [Exhaust/Ghost]
Lightening (Taric) [Ghost/CV]
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I have no idea how OGB managed to beat stope nation. They are all horrible. Qtpie is the only decent player on their team. They must have banned singed-.-
Also who is Becrutchecl?
@Neo Dyrus was on stope nation, he's out. Lightening is the guy that you're missing.
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Shhhh, you have the rare occasion of watching how does such an awesome player called VMan7 play! Needs Bryden7 as well
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the only person i have experience with on OGB is ghetto fab, p bad player
i think neverlike was on their team in cevo tho, but he just showed how good of a player he is, getting outfarmed by a disconnected corki *lol*
should be a stomp
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oh, and I was right, DOA got xpecial'd. farmfarmfarmfarm, then just does kinda nothing in teamfights. He got his ults off, but not a single one ever won a teamfight.
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If Chauster DC like that against Solomid CLG may have a problem. After CLG's performance last game i don't think any other team could take them.
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I like the picks so far. Too bad TSM picked their bot already, I would have really liked to see doublelift
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Chau thinks someone was attacking his IP, causing his to D/c a lot. T_T
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to be fair TSM needs some real heavy hitters in their last two picks to do some damage
OGB's picks are pretty ballsy, i like these non-standard picks
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On February 28 2011 09:10 O-ops wrote:
If Chauster DC like that against Solomid CLG may have a problem. After CLG's performance last game i don't think any other team could take them.
Quickly, pull out the Locicero signal!
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YES URGOT MALZ that's exactly what i'm talking about
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OGB: bans Zilean
TSM: bans Shaco / Rammus
OGB: bans Sion / Alistar
TSM: bans Shen
TSM: picks Amumu
OGB: picks Irelia / Taric
TSM: picks Janna / Cho'Gath
OGB: picks Ryze / Singed
TSM: picks Urgot / Malz
OGB: picks Udyr
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On February 28 2011 09:11 NeoIllusions wrote:
Chau thinks someone was attacking his IP, causing his to D/c a lot. T_T
Tbh it's not the first time he has that kind of issues in tournament play, idk.
Urgot and malz on TSM, real.
Also Itzkill is on OGB's roster. Reginald righteously trolling vman in front of 28k people. And he's original too, in ranked ppl usually ask him if the v stands for virgin.
I can't find this crutch guy on the ladder, but maknoon is top 10 :O
3 exhausts on OGB o.O
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Lol, ghost team vs flash team.
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Early level 1 pokes. Taric uses Ghost. Janna Cleanse. Both teams retreat.
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2 summoners wasted on bot lane, fairly boring lv1. Irelia supposedly counters urgot but Ryze apparently can't deal with malz and OGB switches solos.
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Lanes
Urgot vs Irelia
Malz vs Ryze
Cho Janna vs Singed Taric
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Ryze and Irelia switching.
Ryze vs Urgot
Irelia vs Malz
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Janna comes to gank top. Ryze smartly dodges Urgot's Corrosive Charge and lives.
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Roaming lv1 again from chaox, joins top after it hit lv2 this time but loco misses all his spells and vman survives the gank.
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Malz wining lane so far with harassment. Ryze dodges second Corrosive Charge.
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Udyr finished his rounds while Amumu backs for boots before doing Red. Finishes Red, now running bot to gank.
Urgot dies to Udyr gank on Ryze top.
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poor loco i can feel him fanning himself off from here.
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LOCO GIVES FIRST BLOOD PLAGUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Really nice gank top, loco is a moron for not flashing into the brush right away. He was thinking about cleanseflashing the snare but that was just dumb of his.
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A bit of miscomunication bot, but qtpie is getting some really nice farm, chaox going mid trying to gank but he is still only lv3.
7min tear on ryze is brutal.
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Taric tries to gank Malz in mid. Gets Malz down to 300 hp. Irelia has control of mid now. Janna holds mid while Malz backs.
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OGB lookin like they have something to proove.
And does Phreak really call regi Reginaid?
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Udyr going Phoenix stance primary.
3 man gank on Ryze top. Urgot back now, Malz taking top.
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lol phreak calls out vman
ggnore SHOULDA BOUGHT A WARD THEN
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Very good gank up top, reginald picks up the kill and solidifies his farm.
Vman somehow using teamchat to QQ.
Udyr going phoenix with wriggles wtf?
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Cho solo killed Singed. TSM 2-1 OGB
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Qtpie dies to tower+cho ult bot, udyr decides to suicide aswell, unfortunately for TSM janna gets the kill.
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Udyr overextends and dies to inner tower. TSM picks up free Dragon as a result.
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TSM up 3-1, they also secure the first dragon of the game.
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Urgot dies yet again to Udyr gank.
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TL: Home of high ELO feeders since 2010.
Did Neo coached him or some shit?
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Udyr picks up another kill up top, unfortunately the character's poor state does not allow him to give vman the kill. Still, loco unable to do his job of dominating the lane.
Reginald vs vman, 1 for 1 they both die, OGB gets pulled up top but no assists.
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lol phreak
bash the HP/mana that RoA gives immeditely before malz dies to ryze
if malz had more AP and less HP he wouldn't have even gotten the kill on ryze
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That was some pro juke by Vman.
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Loco with a 14 min manamune, he's wayyyyyyyyyy far behind on farm.
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This Udyr keeping OGB in this game. Scores is 4-4.
TSM is playing really sloppy.
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On February 28 2011 09:33 O-ops wrote:
That was some pro juke by Vman.
The fact that he almost turned a blind gank around is impressive.
Reginald getting ganked mid, udyr is fed and tbh I feel like he will become a potent part of his team as soon as he quits building retarded items and gets tanky.
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On February 28 2011 09:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
This Udyr Locodoco keeping OGB in this game. Scores is 4-4.
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I've gotta head out. Someone else grabs the game details and PM to me so I can edit them into the OP.
gl hf
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Can anyone tell me what Irelia is skilling? He is getting 25 hp from each hit @lv 12, haven't see him Q all that much.
OGB getting ready to gank reginald mid, loco losing top by a ton, mid tower is close to dying and TSM can easily get dived.
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yeah i think she's got only 1 level Q then maxing E>W (the way i play her 8) )
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TSM with ward coverage of dragon trying to sneak one in, they get spotted by taric and run away.
Chaox is playing full roam, now TSM manages to rally up and they get their 2nd dragon for this game.
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TSM takes an uncontested dragon while singed just farms bot
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Fucking hell, OGB is winning in cs by a bigggggggggg margin.
Glad to see this game doesn't turn out to be a roflstomp.
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oh my god irelia takes malzahar from full health to 0 in 0.8 seconds under his own tower
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Irelia dives reginald mid and kills him 100%-0%. OGB takes mid tower.
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OGB tbh has a very large adgantage, qtpie got infinity farm bot against cho, but is building roa instead of rylai. They are aiming for the lategame.
TSM really shot themselves in the foot with the last 2 picks. Too much trolling might seriously cost them the game.
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TheOddOne is wayyyyyyyyyy behind in farm, just a HoG and a cata and a couple wards at 20 minutes
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It wasn't .8 seconds, lol. It took two Q's.
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22 min triforce for the irelia, shit just got real. Vman is going for his patterned build, but a teamfight could possibly go down top OH WOW THEY GET CAUGHT AS THEY RETREAT, vman and udyr get killed with reginald and oddone taking credit for the kills.
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Dumb play by OGB gives up two kills for free.
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Irelia should just switch top and instagib loco.
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TSM splitting up to farm the map, OGB should really run in and dragon while udyr top and malz mid
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and that's exactly what they do, free dragon
they're catching TSM out of position and slow to react but make nothing of it
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TSM takes top tower, the game just got closer.
OGB's udyr has a 24 min triforce as well as his wriggles, NOW START BUILDING TANKY OMG
Vman7 with a 25 min HoG, the ryze pick might be why OGB decided to build a RoA isntead of rylai's on Singed.
Dragon will respawn soon as all 10 men are bot, dragon respawns as both teams just split and no tower falls. Reginald tries to pressure mid but Urgot is forced to defend top from a large minion wave.
OGB might be taking dragon, they are now all in the cravice, they chase malz down as TSM has no mid tower but no kills.
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instead, they all back but singed who gets caught like a fucking moron by 4 members of TSM who then take a tower too
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Singed gets caught mid as TSM regroups, TSM pushes mid down, amumu has ult but he doesn't waste it to avoid deaths on his team.
Oracle on lv9 janna is a large investment, and TSM is way behind on gold, with loco only having manamune brut and boots on urgot.
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Void staff on malzahar, ditching the rylai's this game. The soul shroud on janna will allow Reginald to pump 2 minions at a time in teamfights. TSM now has their own frozen heart held by chogath.
Fourcourtjester breaking the 5th wall of telecommunications comparing the current LoL metagame to the HoN and dota metagame, BUT OH GOD BRAINFART ON TSM'S PART GIVES OGB FREE BARON...
GOOD ENGAGE THO by reginald, picking up the ryze kill. Singed 1450g away from his FoN, udyr takes another tower top and Irelia's core items are complete.
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BARON SECURED, great move by OGB
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WOWWWWWWWWWWWW NICE BARON.
Shit just got real x2
And then Vman got himself caught like a fucking idiot mid (seems like a trend is goin on among OGB).
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ryze gets caught and killed, udyr splits off top and takes a free tower while 3 of OGB hold mid
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one thing that OGB is doing well that a lot of low-level players do wrong is EVEN THOUGH they're getting caught out of position, their teammates aren't dying trying to save a lost champ. better to lose 1 and chastise yourself then try to be han solo and run in and die trying to save your moron ryze player
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If OGB got this next dragon this game is over.
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OGB taking another free tower bot, they now have 1.1k global gold, which is really a significant amount of cash, considering that both their roamer, their bot and their jungler are extremely gold-dependant. The stars are pretty much aligned for them, but cho represents a solid teamfight threat as he will not go down easily.
TSM takes another dragon, a small trade goes down mid, but udyr will punch their inhib tower pushing really hard, the taric gets caught as TSM can fight from above the wall, OGB gets chased out with nothing gained and 1 kill fed.
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Udyr thinks he's Master Yi.
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IRELIA WHY ARE YOU GOING TOP
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Udyr going really full damage, his role will be to BD all game, and has bought a greenpot to complement his role.
OGB roaming into TSM's jungle, they do not manage to steal any buffs tho. Very few wards are laid on the field as both teams are actively roaming with oracles, udyr gets caught by malz flash+ult as both teams were ready to teamfight.
Baron buff fades, TSM 5man pushing bot, with singed pushing mid for OGB.
2 towers and 1 kill taken by TSM, 1 tower from OGB.
TSM now at OGB's bot inhib tower, THEY DO NOT MANAGE TO TAKE IT AS URGOT ISNT PRESENT, FAIL ULT BY CHAOX SAVES THE IRELIA AND OGB GETS A SECOND FREE BARON!!!
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locodoco more like overextendoco
that's gg
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Loco playing so bad. Always seems to be out of position.
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janna ragequit seals it, GFG
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This games needs a pause function so badly for competitive games.
And ya, loco always getting caught. :/
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1540 OGB
1320 TSM
Is the global gold situation, feedfest manages to kill bot inhib tower for OGB, loco gets caught retreating and dies, chaox dcs, which gives OGB a free tower bot.
OGB is now in TSM's face, with all the outer towers dead, udyr harassing towers and Chaox has to restart his client.
OGB takes a free dragon bringing their global gold to 1880.
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lmao phreak on cho: "i would get a sunfire next"
what is his DEAL
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On February 28 2011 09:58 Jaksiel wrote:
Loco playing so bad. Always seems to be out of position.
However both Vman and qtpie got caught out of position from time to time, especially vman who got ganked twice and got no wards.
Seems like OGB's team has better mobility to take advantage of that though. Udyr be fucking everywhere.
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Amumu ulti catches none of the squishies; Ryze steps in and cleans house :/
EDIT: GG
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Phreak needs to stfu about the sunfires, he is making me nervous. Loco has a BT but no charges on it, baron buff will expire soon for OGB who needs to make a move.
TEAMFIGHT IN TSMS TOP JUNGLE, they get stomped and OGB looks like they will win by rushing the nexus without minions.
TSM is out of the tournament, OGB vs CLG will be our finals.
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phreak on udyr: "this is such a cute build, so much movespeed! at first i was going to make fun of him for going wriggles and triforce but this is AMAZING!"
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OGB with the upset! That was a great game to watch.
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O SHIT SON!! Crazy but glad to have a change up in the old CLG vs Solomid tourneys.
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TSM suicided with their picks. Nice job morons is all I can say.
Actually I'm just sort of raging, but yeah, TSM should have swapped lanes again keeping urgot vs irelia, they managed to get udyr fed which is the only way udyr can be decent in a game. And loco played really badly, but that was because of the lane he was in.
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On February 28 2011 10:02 gtrsrs wrote:
phreak on udyr: "this is such a cute build, so much movespeed! at first i was going to make fun of him for going wriggles and triforce but this is AMAZING!"
A top player knowing more than phreak!?! No way!!!
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Loco really felt pretty useless in that game.
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Very good game. OGB (more like udyr and irelia lololol -_______-) played nicely that game despite the early setbacks.
Inb4 raging on locodoco.
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NT solomid. Irelia is OP has a whole new meaning now.
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On February 28 2011 10:02 r33k wrote:
TSM suicided with their picks. Nice job morons is all I can say.
Actually I'm just sort of raging, but yeah, TSM should have swapped lanes again keeping urgot vs irelia, they managed to get udyr fed which is the only way udyr can be decent in a game. And loco played really badly, but that was because of the lane he was in.
i don't even know if it was that
loco just played like fucking shit, even worse than vman was playing
and udyr was just too much to handle compared to amumu. i've always felt like amumu v udyr was a really bad matchup for amumu. especially when you already have janna? i feel like trundle/WW was a stronger pick for TSM but what do i know
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Tbh I can see Chaox raging way harder. He fucked up once and essentially gave OGB the game at the end.
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Urgot was just a bad pick imo. Should have just stuck to a hard carry. And ReginaId getting caught early game was pretty bad too. And giving up the first baron uncontested. And not being able to deal with Udyr backdooring. Just too many mistakes by TSM for them to win.
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On February 28 2011 10:03 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 10:02 gtrsrs wrote:
phreak on udyr: "this is such a cute build, so much movespeed! at first i was going to make fun of him for going wriggles and triforce but this is AMAZING!" A top player knowing more than phreak!?! No way!!!
I thought the consensus was that at this point Wriggles/Triforce Tiger Udyr is at least as good, if not better than straight-tank Phoenix Udyr.
Point being, it's not a "cute build" but a 100% legitimate way to play him that people realized like a week after the Tiger buff happened
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loco #1 noob, got ganked top all day to feed udyr, even he had a ward there
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I'm really pissed actually, really hope solomid could crush CLG sometimes....
sigh...
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Well played OGB, we all underestimated you.
Now the real question, will Chauster dc 7 times...
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that Udyr played so fast, he was like everywhere at once and then backout to teamfight. So fast so fast
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On February 28 2011 10:06 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 10:03 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 28 2011 10:02 gtrsrs wrote:
phreak on udyr: "this is such a cute build, so much movespeed! at first i was going to make fun of him for going wriggles and triforce but this is AMAZING!" A top player knowing more than phreak!?! No way!!! I thought the consensus was that at this point Wriggles/Triforce Tiger Udyr is at least as good, if not better than straight-tank Phoenix Udyr. Point being, it's not a "cute build" but a 100% legitimate way to play him that people realized like a week after the Tiger buff happened
Tbh I still consider Wriggles Sheen HoG into stuff a better and safer build. Not too big a difference but heh, you can't rely on your earlygame being that good.
Also I dare anyone to go to the LoL forums and come out with their mind intact.
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On February 28 2011 10:02 r33k wrote:
TSM suicided with their picks. Nice job morons is all I can say.
Actually I'm just sort of raging, but yeah, TSM should have swapped lanes again keeping urgot vs irelia, they managed to get udyr fed which is the only way udyr can be decent in a game. And loco played really badly, but that was because of the lane he was in.
If loco was mid he would get ganked like 5 times in 15 minutes. Dude had a ward top and he got ganked -_-
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On February 28 2011 10:10 O-ops wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 10:02 r33k wrote:
TSM suicided with their picks. Nice job morons is all I can say.
Actually I'm just sort of raging, but yeah, TSM should have swapped lanes again keeping urgot vs irelia, they managed to get udyr fed which is the only way udyr can be decent in a game. And loco played really badly, but that was because of the lane he was in. If loco was mid he would get ganked like 5 times in 15 minutes. Dude had a ward top and he got ganked -_-
They had lv1 roaming Janna, he would have been safe with 1 or 2 wards in the long brushes at the river sides.
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Also I would pay to listen to TSM's vent right now. Actually it's probably just going to be empty, 4 out of 5 of them are known for raging so...
This tournament needed bo3s tho. Either bo3s or a losers' bracket.
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CLG is trying to trick OGB into going to the purple side, rosters look to be the same as last games. I don't even see Locicero on Phreak's friend list.
First ban going to OGB, and that is Corki. brb making tea.
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TSM just doesnt know how to deal with split pushing, same happend vs CLG last esl cup where chauster was just afk farming top all the way to inhib turret and TSM couldnt get anything done.
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At least finals are Bo3.
A lot of HoN/DoTA tourneys are single elimination too. (Double elimination probably better, but takes longer.)c
EDIT: Neo on your first post for Game 2 it says "CLG wins", I think you mean "TSM wins"
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On February 28 2011 10:24 dnastyx wrote:
At least finals are Bo3.
A lot of HoN/DoTA tourneys are single elimination too. (Double elimination probably better, but takes longer.)
Losers bracket would be good too imo. Those games can be played off the main stream and now that we have replays they can just be uploaded.
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Well, with LoL/dota/hon tournaments always taking much longer than people plan, and bo3 or double bracket would have to be over a few days.
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Double elim basically doubles the length of the tournament (3 rounds for 8-team single elim; 6 for 8-team double elim if I just did everything right). Obviously switching every round to Bo3 at least doubles the length of the tournament as well.
This is already very long for a one-day tournament, so switching to either of those formats pretty much demands at least two days.
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nvm I dumb about junglers
And I figured they would pick Shen as a "solo" bot with Alistar or Taric roaming :3
Question is, is jiji going to play Ashe? Or AP carry with Chauster on Ashe?
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they need to have pick/ban time limits. Reward planning ahead and thinking on your feet well. and cut some of this bullshit from dragging out.
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Have they done the bans yet? My "making tea" turned into "making ice tea, wieners and sauerkraut" so it will take a bit longer than I thought, if someone could note bans and picks down it would be terrific.
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Finals game 1:
Picks:
CLG: Shen, Ashe, Alistair, Swain, Olaf
OGB: Sion, Amumu, Taric, Urgot, Gankplank
(i missed bans if any1 caught them, i know OGB banned lux and janna, thats all i got tho)
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Picks:
CLG - Shen, Ashe, Alistar, Swain, Olaf
OGB - Sion, Amumu, Taric, Urgot, Pirate o.O
CLG had first pick, I missed the bans tho. Brb checking on wieners.
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Some mightly irregular picks coming from OGB today.
Gangplank?
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CLG really likes to play safe and win after being farmed. GP might not be bad choice?
Healing redux also sexy vs swain
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Does anyone have the bans?
OGB
Imaqtpie - Urgot - ghostflash
Ghetto Fabulous - Amumu - flash smite
Lightening - Taric - ghost cv
Vman7 - Pirate - Ghostflash
Becrutchecl - Taric - Flash ignite
CLG
Saint - Olaf - ghostsmite
HS - Alistar -gf
jiji - Ashe - gf
Ele - Swain - ignite ghost
Chauster - Shen - ghost exhaust
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On February 28 2011 10:41 Juicyfruit wrote:
CLG really likes to play safe and win after being farmed. GP might not be bad choice?
Healing redux also sexy vs swain
Not saying it's a bad choice. I don't know shit compared to these guys.
But you gotta admit it takes balls to pick GP in a finals. I mean, this is some Flash-14cc-in-a-2-player-map ballsiness here.
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Gangplank makes sense as a pick. Hopefully this will be a great game and not a total one sided victory for CLG.
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Chauster on Shen, Elementz on Swain!
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Mummy misses the flash over the wall and gets fb'd!
EDIT: Hotshot on Cow fucking with mummy's jungle. Amumu can't finish blue because Hotshot keeps running into him and attacking him.
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Fail flash from amumu, gets FB'ed. Chauster's shen picked up the kill, only 1 assist tho.
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clg stream lagging for anyone else?
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Amumu getting harassed at blue, HS almost got caught by urgot, goes in to harass again as the amumu is dropping really low.
Roaming taric now aiding amumu with blue as HS closes in to the top lane urgot to gank.
Amumu finally picked up the blue, as saint finishes his red and is close to ending his jungle run.
Urgot survives a 3v1 gank with some pro jukes, qtpie so underrated.
The lanes are as follows:
Top: Urgot - Swain
Mid: Sion - Ashe
Bot: Pirate, Taric - Shen
Taric went back bot after lv 1, alistar roaming hard.
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Why is Sion mid and Urgot top? Thought it would make more sense the other way..
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Beautiful juke by qtpie. Urgot left the fight with more hp than each of the other 3 in the lane lol.
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Holy shit Phreak misses all the ganks...
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On February 28 2011 10:49 zulu_nation8 wrote:
clg stream lagging for anyone else?
Im watching the official one, it's been fine for me after the first game.
OGB is slightly winning both their lanes in farm, only uncommon item is the double small mana pendant on vman's GP. WHICH GOT TURNED INTO DOUBLE PHILO STONE TROLOLOLOL
Gank mid kills jiji, with Sion taking the kill. Score is now 1-1
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Vman is playing full on denyplank farming with parrley, taric is roaming and HS is soaking as little exp from the lane as possible.
Faggy boots 3 on amumu are faggy.
Ashe misses the arrow mid, gank fails onto sion.
Sion and amumu get dragged into a brush and amumu gets ganked by 4 players on CLG, nice trick will allow CLG to get the first dragon of the game.
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BAITEDDDD.
It really seems like CLG knew about the ward; Chauster ported in instantly the moment the stun happened. That ain't look like no reflex.
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Vman DC's again. Need pause button.
EDIT: Shen makes another gank successful.
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This game is looking way more passive than the previous ones, I shouldn't have eaten so fast-.-
Sion beating ashe mid by 20 cs, being 1/0/0 compared to jiji's 0/1/2
VMAN DC OH FUCK...
Saint is pulling off an impressive showing this tournament tbh, great gank mid on an overextended sion that eats an ashe ult, shen ults in to get the assist and boom.
Lvl5 taric goes in to try and defend the tower but get dived past 2 towers by the 3 players on CLG and killed. Saintvicious manages to escape to OGB's blue and steal it, leaving a small creep up to delay the respawn.
Vman reconnecting after 3 minutes, he may have restarted his client as he DCed while bluepilling.
Ashe with a 16 min BFS, saint going wriggles/HoG standard, Vman building 2 more gold/min items in form of 2 rice blades.
Ghetto fabulous tho gets caught at his red by all of CLG, who then manages to gank vman under tower, Sion goes greedy, fails to kill olaf who gets shen ulted and they get 4-0ed under their bot tower, which ultimately falls to creeps.
Another free dragon for CLG who is now up 9/1. Olaf getting another HoG, enjoying the cash shower.
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Oh my god Shen.
Seriously, OGB is losing every fight right now because of Shen.
And OGB loses bot tower and dragon because of a gank a bot (made successful by Shen)
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SHEN OP
Yeah, this game is done. Pretty amazing what CLG could do when someone dc lol i guess.
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On February 28 2011 11:04 O-ops wrote:
SHEN OP
Yeah, this game is done. Pretty amazing what CLG could do when someone dc lol i guess.
They were already winning tbh. Denyplank isn't as good in a roaming lane.
Aggressive wards all the way into OGB's jungle, and where CLG has aggressive green wards OGB have defensive wards themselves lol.
Amumu and sion get caught mid by an ashe arrow while trying to gank Alistar, qtpie tries to intervene but gets pinned and killed by swain and Olaf.
CLG all over OGB's jungle, already taking their jungle buffs.
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They can't win v Ashe ulti and Shen ulti :/
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22 min IE, 3 dblades and zerks on ashe, swain has tear,catalyst and NLR off of freefarming.
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This is such a one-sided game. Amumu keeps dying, poor guy =(.
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A bunch go bot to gank Shen, Chauster runs away, Sion dies mid, top tower goes down.
WHY GANK SHEN?
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LOL JUKED BY SHEN TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
inb4 shen ban
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Chauster is so stupidly tanky that he gets ganked by urgot+taric+pirate, dives 2 towers, runs into the opposing main and dashes past the other wall alive, granting his team 2 kills in the process by luring people in.
Ashe arrows still giving automatic kills to CLG, OGB is being completely outclassed.
3rd dragon going to CLG, saint picking up an atmas just to be safe, there really is no point in doing play by play anymore tbh.
26 mins in Ashe picks up another BFS because he can.
IEdge on pirate but heh. CLG just freely dives through towers, a surrender would just make things quicker.
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A moderately fail baron attempt from CLG results in a 3-2 trade in OGB's favor, but the 4-20 score in CLG's favor tells it all.
CLG barons, CLG pushes, CLG wins with a 25-4 score.
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Phreak not predicting a Shen ban for this next game. Pretty one sided victory for CLG in the first game with the final score being 25-4.
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Bans: Zilean, Irelia, Ryze, Shen, Alistar, Janna with OGB taking first ban.
Qtpie is playing minecraft during bans lol...
With only Taric and Cho left as solid bot lane champs 2nd pick OGB manages to give them both up.
CLG: Chogath, Taric, Amumu, Ashe, Annie
OGB: Corki, Sion, Malphite, Udyr, Sona
Phreak slowly realizing that he's getting owned as he mentions karma, sona and soraka and tries defending them as being in any way viable...
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It's amazing how I'm trying to watch the oscars on another screen but the LoL bans and picks are WAY more entertaining.
3rd place is still going btw, seems way better than the game we are getting
Saintvicious - Amumu - ghost/smite
Hsgg - Cho - ghost/flash
Chauster - Ashe - ghost/flash
Elementz - Annie - ignite/flash
Jiji - Taric - clairvoyance/flash
Becrutchecl - Sion - flash/tp
Vman7 - Sona - ghost/flash
Ghetto Fabulous - Udyr - ghost/smite
Qtpie - Corki - flash/cleanse
Lightening - Malphite - ghost/cv
Malphite solomid and corki bot, very EU style.
Cho top sending ashe bot aswell.
So the lanes are:
Top: Cho - Sion
Mid: Annie - Malph
Bot: Taric/Ashe - Corki/Sona
The co-caster points out a possible bug with silence and Sion's shield and phreak shuts him out immediately lol.
A failed gank mid leads to CLG taking FB, with annie killing malph, annie then dying to udyr and udyr dying to amumu under tower. HS owning Sion up top, sends him back before he can heal up with ult.
Again a gank mid easily kills malphite, VMan dc'd as he is having network problems so yeah, CLG will take this 2-0. Malphite is sent bot to 1v2 and Corki will try surviving mid from 3 levels behind against Elementz's annie.
Malphite bot survives a 3man gank but CLG will be able to get a free dragon. Udyr ganks top and picks up the kill onto HS. Vman reconnects. Malph bot feels safe and just as he moved out of tower range he gets arrowed and killed by ashe.
Udyr gets pressured at his golem, his team does not really react and that leads to a full team gank with blue falling to the hands of CLG, which then moves to the bottom lane, killing Sona, the tower and almost getting malphite aswell.
Failed gank onto sion top leads to amumu being able to steal OGB's red uncontested. As everyone moves towards the bottom lane sion pushes top tower down. The score is 6-2 ,dragon will be up soon.
Small fight mid sees annie die to corki and CLG running in quicker and finishing Sion off. 8-3
18 minutes in HS's cho has a catalyst and the good old double negatron, he is now in full unkillable mode, farming and pushing bot uncontested.
2nd dragon goes to CLG, OGB simply has no wards even with no oracles on CLG. Udyr gets caught by a bandage toss past a wall, which gives CLG the numbers advantage to push down mid, taking a tower. 20 min rabadon+boots2+catalyst on annie.
Vman's not been able to recover from his DC time, level 8 compared to the carries' lvl 13, picks up a philo stone to make up for the lack of farm, but dcs again at the 22 min mark.
CLG is in unkillable mode, 4man diving mid tower, picking up 2 kills spending almost a full minute tanking the 2 mid towers, they are finally able to push the mid inhibitor down and retreat to take OGB's buffs. The commentators are no longer holding their yawning.
Read last paragraph, only bot. They retreat before inhib, the tower has only 300 hp. Amumu solopushing top, CLG pushes bot. The tibbers/arrow/omnomnom combo has just too much burst for OGB to do anything, CLG takes a tower top leaving OGB with only their top inhib and throne towers up. HS can solopush all he wants, he has infinity HP anyways.
CLG pushes top, finishes things up with vman DC again. Final score: 20-3
Top killers for the tournament:
Bigfatjiji 11+7+0=18
Elementz 1+7+11=19
Becrutched12+6+1=19
TSM won the 3rd place game.
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OMFG Phreak watch the damn minimap!
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Phreak, the "World Renowned" LoL caster that has no map awareness. GG
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Will there be vods of these games? 'cause the stream is extremely laggy for me...
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phreak loves to talk about items and hes a really smart guy just hes missing all the main things going on in the game lol.
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On February 28 2011 12:01 Ryuu314 wrote:
Will there be vods of these games? 'cause the stream is extremely laggy for me...
Most players have the replay client on, at the beginning of the stream phreak said he would record the games but he hasn't really showed anyone the own3d.tv recording thing, so it will either be one huge chunk (that you can't even cut) or he just forgot about recording alltogether.
But we are 99% likely to have replays.
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I dunno why he isn't spending the vast majority of his time focusing on the minimap, it contains far more useful info than just tunnel visioning on one lane.
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Saint vicious completely dominating in jungle.
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Looking forward to the replays cuz the stream has become pretty much unwatchable.
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I'm watching from the SM portal and I'm having no troubles whatsoever. I can post play by plays or I can not post anything if you guys just wanna watch the replays.
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this would of been much more interesting i think if it was CLG SM
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Phreak needs to never cast lol again. He has absolutely no sense of how to do it well.
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I'm pretty sick of CLG to be honest...someone really needs to challenge them on their level, cause these tourneys are getting boring and predictable.
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On February 28 2011 12:14 Dgiese wrote:
I'm watching from the SM portal and I'm having no troubles whatsoever. I can post play by plays or I can not post anything if you guys just wanna watch the replays.
I already have play by play in my post that I'm editing, I figured I wouldn't really bother raising my post count anymore.
And yeah, it's a shame TSM fucked up-.-
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go easy on phreak you have to remember that hes really sick and he doesnt usually miss this much stuff
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On February 28 2011 12:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm pretty sick of CLG to be honest...someone really needs to challenge them on their level, cause these tourneys are getting boring and predictable.
From what I gather the only team with similar solo q elos are TSM and all the other teams seem to have much lower individual skill levels compared to CLG. But, TSM fail so spectacularly at teamwork. >_<
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my god. somebody nerf clg already.
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On February 28 2011 12:18 Goshawk. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 12:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm pretty sick of CLG to be honest...someone really needs to challenge them on their level, cause these tourneys are getting boring and predictable. From what I gather the only team with similar solo q elos are TSM and all the other teams seem to have much lower individual skill levels compared to CLG. But, TSM fail so spectacularly at teamwork. >_<
Doublelift, Qtpie, Locicero, Dyrus are all players who can go head to head with them. Their problem is that they barely know eachother and they mostly play funky champs.
Also MASSIVE SPOILERS ON CLG STREAM.
+ Show Spoiler +
Looking forward to the replays.
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On February 28 2011 12:21 r33k wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 12:18 Goshawk. wrote:On February 28 2011 12:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm pretty sick of CLG to be honest...someone really needs to challenge them on their level, cause these tourneys are getting boring and predictable. From what I gather the only team with similar solo q elos are TSM and all the other teams seem to have much lower individual skill levels compared to CLG. But, TSM fail so spectacularly at teamwork. >_< Doublelift, Qtpie, Locicero, Dyrus are all players who can go head to head with them. Their problem is that they barely know eachother and they mostly play funky champs. Also MASSIVE SPOILERS ON CLG STREAM. + Show Spoiler +
But they are all on dif teams?
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On February 28 2011 12:25 Goshawk. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 12:21 r33k wrote:On February 28 2011 12:18 Goshawk. wrote:On February 28 2011 12:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm pretty sick of CLG to be honest...someone really needs to challenge them on their level, cause these tourneys are getting boring and predictable. From what I gather the only team with similar solo q elos are TSM and all the other teams seem to have much lower individual skill levels compared to CLG. But, TSM fail so spectacularly at teamwork. >_< Doublelift, Qtpie, Locicero, Dyrus are all players who can go head to head with them. Their problem is that they barely know eachother and they mostly play funky champs. Also MASSIVE SPOILERS ON CLG STREAM. + Show Spoiler + But they are all on dif teams?
Dbl and Loci are basically b-teamers, dyrus doesn't really have a team and I don't really know much about qtpie other than he is extremely underrated. I'm just saying that good players to challenge CLG need to stick together instead of making teams with randoms and friends where only 2 out of 5 are decent.
Also massive kudos to saintvicious. His play was fantastic all games tonight. If you asked me yesterday I would have told you he's mediocre at best. Today he was really top tier.
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On February 28 2011 12:31 r33k wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 12:25 Goshawk. wrote:On February 28 2011 12:21 r33k wrote:On February 28 2011 12:18 Goshawk. wrote:On February 28 2011 12:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm pretty sick of CLG to be honest...someone really needs to challenge them on their level, cause these tourneys are getting boring and predictable. From what I gather the only team with similar solo q elos are TSM and all the other teams seem to have much lower individual skill levels compared to CLG. But, TSM fail so spectacularly at teamwork. >_< Doublelift, Qtpie, Locicero, Dyrus are all players who can go head to head with them. Their problem is that they barely know eachother and they mostly play funky champs. Also MASSIVE SPOILERS ON CLG STREAM. + Show Spoiler + But they are all on dif teams? Dbl and Loci are basically b-teamers, dyrus doesn't really have a team and I don't really know much about qtpie other than he is extremely underrated. I'm just saying that good players to challenge CLG need to stick together instead of making teams with randoms and friends where only 2 out of 5 are decent. Also massive kudos to saintvicious. His play was fantastic all games tonight. If you asked me yesterday I would have told you he's mediocre at best. Today he was really top tier.
Okay. That's kinda proving my point though, none of the other established teams competiting apart from TSM have the individual skill to compete, let alone the teamwork.
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Oh man I can't wait for co-op vs. bots.
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CLG vs Bots is a million times better than Riot vs Bots.
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On February 28 2011 12:34 Goshawk. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 12:31 r33k wrote:On February 28 2011 12:25 Goshawk. wrote:On February 28 2011 12:21 r33k wrote:On February 28 2011 12:18 Goshawk. wrote:On February 28 2011 12:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm pretty sick of CLG to be honest...someone really needs to challenge them on their level, cause these tourneys are getting boring and predictable. From what I gather the only team with similar solo q elos are TSM and all the other teams seem to have much lower individual skill levels compared to CLG. But, TSM fail so spectacularly at teamwork. >_< Doublelift, Qtpie, Locicero, Dyrus are all players who can go head to head with them. Their problem is that they barely know eachother and they mostly play funky champs. Also MASSIVE SPOILERS ON CLG STREAM. + Show Spoiler + But they are all on dif teams? Dbl and Loci are basically b-teamers, dyrus doesn't really have a team and I don't really know much about qtpie other than he is extremely underrated. I'm just saying that good players to challenge CLG need to stick together instead of making teams with randoms and friends where only 2 out of 5 are decent. Also massive kudos to saintvicious. His play was fantastic all games tonight. If you asked me yesterday I would have told you he's mediocre at best. Today he was really top tier. Okay. That's kinda proving my point though, none of the other established teams competiting apart from TSM have the individual skill to compete, let alone the teamwork.
Yeah, but who is tsm? The only 2 players that have been TSM for more than 1 tournament have been loco and reginald, and they weren't even called TSM. Oddone just disbands teams whenever he has a poor showing, Chaox has only been relevant since the last 2 months, dbl is a b-teamer so...
Reginald just picked up players and had them play together. We saw them in the preliminaries, and they had no ability to work together whatsoever, because they had simply never played together as 5 before.
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the most important thing to me since this was a 6 ban format was flexibility. Sure some players can get by in solo q playing a couple champions but in competitive play thats another story...one example that sticks out was chaox on janna. good lord that was an eyesore.
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On February 28 2011 12:48 Brees wrote:
the most important thing to me since this was a 6 ban format was flexibility. Sure some players can get by in solo q playing a couple champions but in competitive play thats another story...one example that sticks out was chaox on janna. good lord that was an eyesore.
Yeah, that is also probably why Stope nation lost. Ban Singed, peth not playing anivia...
But regardless, more soloqueue fixes that. LoL has 50+ champions, 4 bans per game are not enough and everyone agrees on that.
Switching the banning phase to a ban-pick-ban sort of thing could be interesting too, but really the client needs to be updated to allow variable bans in custom games (and other functionalities too, but w/e).
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Preview of some potential drama, on the clg stream Chaox talking about replacing Loco in the near future.
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On February 28 2011 13:01 Irave wrote:
Preview of some potential drama, on the clg stream Chaox talking about replacing Loco in the near future.
With who though? Not a whole lot of top tier ranged carry players out there, and clg already has the 2 best.
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On February 28 2011 13:14 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 13:01 Irave wrote:
Preview of some potential drama, on the clg stream Chaox talking about replacing Loco in the near future. With who though? Not a whole lot of top tier ranged carry players out there, and clg already has the 2 best.
Chaox said he would fill that role and they would look for another bot laner.
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Loco didn't play too well this tournament :/
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On February 28 2011 12:18 Goshawk. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 12:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm pretty sick of CLG to be honest...someone really needs to challenge them on their level, cause these tourneys are getting boring and predictable. From what I gather the only team with similar solo q elos are TSM and all the other teams seem to have much lower individual skill levels compared to CLG. But, TSM fail so spectacularly at teamwork. >_<
Lets not mention that whenever CLG needs to pick someone up they easily get get another top player. For example, Kobe cant make this tourney, np get saintvicious. Even the tourney before this one they picked up Dan Dihn and Regi.
It seems like the prevailing thought is "why bother setting up your own team, just join CLG and pick up a free tourny win or two".
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Ya, Doublelift went from Goose->Solomid->CLG
Saint went from Solomid->CLG
zzzz
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Riot really should do something about that. Limit teams to 7 or something. CLG is just collusion.
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Is it really the kind of issue that Riot should be stepping in to fix though? If the players are happy to be on a team with 20 other players and only occasionally being called up to play isn't that their prerogative?
I mean, would Riot forcing capping team numbers inspire those that were kicked out to start their own teams or join others and work hard or just say "Well fuck it, time for a different game".
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If riot wants a functioning competitive scene, then yes, it is the sort of thing they should be stepping in to fix.
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Well I mean ESL already has an upper cap for the number of players you can have registered to your team...
To be honest, I'd say there are much larger reasons why the competitive scene isn't as strong as it could be. Something simple would be to organise larger prize pools, and that way there isn't the clumsy solution of heavy handed 'anti monopoly' regulation.
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Economic solution by way of incentives:
Split prize pool so 2nd and 3rd are not a lot less than 1st.
e.g. changing from $1000, $500, $100 to $800, $500, $300
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I think part of the problem is how dead the US scene is. DoTA and HoN both had a lot of money coming in from team sponsors. And yeah, SK has a LoL team in EU, but can you imagine any team but CLG being sponsored in the US? I don't see it happening.
I can't see any easy solution for a deep competitive coming out of this game any time soon, to be honest. There was a huge window that Riot missed, and while tournaments like this are great, longevity requires that players and teams stay interested. It doesn't help that one of the teams closest to CLG, the old Korean one (Overpowered) has all either quit, just trolls now, or went to the army.
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I don't think there's much you can do with prize money to dissuade CLG from picking who they want. It's a 5v5 game. Money is always going to a team. If CLG is winning every tournament, you're going to be splitting shares no matter what, so always split the winning share, right?
Not to mention even if they didn't pick up people like Doublelift or saintvicious and such, the fact is CLG's the strongest team because they've always had the best two/three players in the game (jiji and Chauster for sure, Hotshot people can debate about), one of the best junglers, and tier list guy. But it's not out of line for them to have a backup or two. I mean, Locicero doesn't count entirely since he's busy enough with college.
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Well Riot made their decisions I guess, they put effort towards convincing casual players to make regular mini payments (an entirely legitimate business decision that I'm not criticising them for). But they only had so much manpower to work with important things to competitive gaming took a backseat to appealing to a more casual audience.
On the bright side it seems like at least they haven't completely forsaken the competitive aspect of the game, and things like observer mode and replays are being worked on.
@Seluchi - With regards to prize money, the point is that those players who are on the CLG roster but not expected to be included in the main team will have more incentive to join / create a team so that they get a share of the prize money.
I don't know how CLG divides the prize money amongst it's team, but I'd imagine that those who were only reserves could stand to make a larger share than they would get even by winning 3rd/4th place with their own team.
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On February 28 2011 17:19 Seiuchi wrote:
Not to mention even if they didn't pick up people like Doublelift or saintvicious and such, the fact is CLG's the strongest team because they've always had the best two/three players in the game (jiji and Chauster for sure, Hotshot people can debate about), one of the best junglers, and tier list guy. But it's not out of line for them to have a backup or two. I mean, Locicero doesn't count entirely since he's busy enough with college.
Loci's also been with them long enough that he's not really "guy they picked up for 1-2 events"-status anymore really.
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On February 28 2011 17:43 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 17:19 Seiuchi wrote:
Not to mention even if they didn't pick up people like Doublelift or saintvicious and such, the fact is CLG's the strongest team because they've always had the best two/three players in the game (jiji and Chauster for sure, Hotshot people can debate about), one of the best junglers, and tier list guy. But it's not out of line for them to have a backup or two. I mean, Locicero doesn't count entirely since he's busy enough with college. Loci's also been with them long enough that he's not really "guy they picked up for 1-2 events"-status anymore really.
The problem is that he's been considered a b-teamer every since Elementz came to CLG. The bottom lane is solidly into the hands of elementz+HS and he has a hard time finding a spot, in fact I don't even remember ever seeing him actually playing for CLG in a competitive event. That's why he doesn't have all the fanbase recognition that the a-teamers have.
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On February 28 2011 17:50 r33k wrote:
The problem is that he's been considered a b-teamer every since Elementz came to CLG. The bottom lane is solidly into the hands of elementz+HS and he has a hard time finding a spot, in fact I don't even remember ever seeing him actually playing for CLG in a competitive event. That's why he doesn't have all the fanbase recognition that the a-teamers have.
He got some play time on some of the earlier ESL qualifier rounds, but I don't think they took those that seriously.
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You would see more top teams if there was actually a competitive scene for LoL. The number of tournaments is so low and they are so spread out that no teams even get a chance to gel before they are thrown into the next big tournament. This is also why the premade 5v5 ladder scene is dead. There is no incentive to get a team together and practice because what are you really practicing for, maybe 4 tournaments all year?
Without replays or observer mode available to the general public, the competitive scene will suffer. Once those features come out. Major tournaments can be held by people without Riot's supervision and help. Then you will start seeing the tournament scene look more like the SC2 scene with tournaments almost every day. Good lord there were 30k people watching these games. There's a viewer base just not a product.
Riot has to get its shit together and help the esports scene.
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On February 28 2011 19:00 Aurdon wrote:
Riot has to get its shit together and help the esports scene.
We might be holding our breath for a while, because from what it seems like, they have some of the worst people in the company in charge of it. They've been reaching out more than they used to, but they need to go further and get some kind of small level tournament system set up ASAP.
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They need to have an incentive for people to do premade 5s over solo queue, and it can't just be something like more tournaments, money etc... The reason the competitive scene is dead is because there are basically no new entrants. The teams we see in ESL have been formed either by veterans who have ended up playing the game so much they got to know each other just by being matched together in solo queue, or teams made from outside communities.
The ladder is basically meaningless right now, and the best way to get more 5s teams is to make the 5s ladder more meaningful. Something as simple as running competitions where in game prizes are given out based on your ladder rank, where they reset the ladder and have it run for a month or so would drum up a lot of interest providing the prizes were for something like the top 5000 ranked players on the 5s ladder or something like that where even average players could form a team and end up with a prize like a new skin as reward.
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On February 28 2011 21:27 rob.au wrote:
They need to have an incentive for people to do premade 5s over solo queue, and it can't just be something like more tournaments, money etc... The reason the competitive scene is dead is because there are basically no new entrants. The teams we see in ESL have been formed either by veterans who have ended up playing the game so much they got to know each other just by being matched together in solo queue, or teams made from outside communities.
The ladder is basically meaningless right now, and the best way to get more 5s teams is to make the 5s ladder more meaningful. Something as simple as running competitions where in game prizes are given out based on your ladder rank, where they reset the ladder and have it run for a month or so would drum up a lot of interest providing the prizes were for something like the top 5000 ranked players on the 5s ladder or something like that where even average players could form a team and end up with a prize like a new skin as reward.
Isn't it a bit early to judge that the ladder is totally meaningless as it still remains to be Season 1, and we have no idea what they plan to do when it comes to an end? Its also a bit harsh to call this tournament a complete failure, I'm certain there was at least 128 teams that entered and gave it a shot. They even announced during the stream that they were starting up a premiere team league.
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On February 28 2011 17:20 Dgiese wrote:
Well Riot made their decisions I guess, they put effort towards convincing casual players to make regular mini payments (an entirely legitimate business decision that I'm not criticising them for). But they only had so much manpower to work with important things to competitive gaming took a backseat to appealing to a more casual audience.
On the bright side it seems like at least they haven't completely forsaken the competitive aspect of the game, and things like observer mode and replays are being worked on.
@Seluchi - With regards to prize money, the point is that those players who are on the CLG roster but not expected to be included in the main team will have more incentive to join / create a team so that they get a share of the prize money.
I don't know how CLG divides the prize money amongst it's team, but I'd imagine that those who were only reserves could stand to make a larger share than they would get even by winning 3rd/4th place with their own team.
Yeah, would be kind of interesting to know how much the b teamers get paid. I hope they are at least getting smth if the likes of loci are just being on B team.
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I havent watched anything but I dont want to search for links in here in case I get spoilt. Are there any VODs of the games up?
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Phreak really needs to work on his caster/co-caster role. I couldn't tell what he was. FourCourtJester kept quiet most of the time and tried to call out to Phreak on where the action was, but he was too busy yammering that he missed 3/4s of the fight initiations. I don't know if he would fall into the caster or color-commentator role, but he needs to pick one.
Tastosis has spoiled me in the commentary world.
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On March 01 2011 02:56 Psyqo wrote:
Phreak really needs to work on his caster/co-caster role. I couldn't tell what he was. FourCourtJester kept quiet most of the time and tried to call out to Phreak on where the action was, but he was too busy yammering that he missed 3/4s of the fight initiations. I don't know if he would fall into the caster or color-commentator role, but he needs to pick one.
Tastosis has spoiled me in the commentary world.
Phreak just did a really bad job. Unfortunately, riot seems to have locked him in to the commentary role, but he NEEDS to be the co-commentator. He misses WAY to much stuff to have full control of the obs.
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I enjoyed watching some of the games, in the end even having played the game I found it confusing and frustrating to watch. I think I'd rather just first person follow one player through the game with a commentator on top talking about the overall action, that's probably just personal preference though.
I haven't read the entirety of the thread so I don't know if it's been commented on but I think the players need to stop swearing in the in-game stream viewable chats and in general act more like adults. If LoL ever wants to attract real sponsors for events, the sponsors aren't going to want to see that and it makes the entire event feel amateurish when the players are swearing away and chatting about their girlfriends and how they need to take a dump before the game starts. This looks bad on the players, the LoL community and Riot for hosting and publicizing the event.
Thirdly, I found it gross that players openly bashed Riot in the pre-game chats, talking about how certain skins sucked (that's going to cost Riot money), as well as discussions around the LoL Replay Tool, to quote some player 'you know the one Riot couldn't make.' Riot did a lot to make this event happen, publicize it and bring the viewers to it. Warranted or not I think the players can keep the comments to themselves during the event just out of respect for what Riot did to make the event happen. If Riot feels they are being portrayed in a negative light while these events are happening they'll simply stop doing it.
Anyways that was my thoughts on the event fwiw.
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Your second and third paragraphs are exactly what I was thinking.
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Riot didnt make the event happen. ESL did. Riot just piggybacked on cuz otherwise we would have had no way to watch due to lack of observer mode.
Hell, Riot didnt even advertise the ESL until after I made a post on the lol forums telling them they needed too.
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On March 01 2011 04:18 baneling wrote:
I enjoyed watching some of the games, in the end even having played the game I found it confusing and frustrating to watch. I think I'd rather just first person follow one player through the game with a commentator on top talking about the overall action, that's probably just personal preference though.
I haven't read the entirety of the thread so I don't know if it's been commented on but I think the players need to stop swearing in the in-game stream viewable chats and in general act more like adults. If LoL ever wants to attract real sponsors for events, the sponsors aren't going to want to see that and it makes the entire event feel amateurish when the players are swearing away and chatting about their girlfriends and how they need to take a dump before the game starts. This looks bad on the players, the LoL community and Riot for hosting and publicizing the event.
Thirdly, I found it gross that players openly bashed Riot in the pre-game chats, talking about how certain skins sucked (that's going to cost Riot money), as well as discussions around the LoL Replay Tool, to quote some player 'you know the one Riot couldn't make.' Riot did a lot to make this event happen, publicize it and bring the viewers to it. Warranted or not I think the players can keep the comments to themselves during the event just out of respect for what Riot did to make the event happen. If Riot feels they are being portrayed in a negative light while these events are happening they'll simply stop doing it.
Anyways that was my thoughts on the event fwiw.
Look at HoN, look at DotA. While the bashing of s2 isn't as common the way the companies act with their players are different. Riot did promise things, and they did not deliver. S2 just recently made paid ingame money worth more than its earned ingame counterpart and people are giving them shit about it. In the middle of the games. Like literally, pausing the game, making shoutouts and calling them greedy and all.
Both top HoN and LoL terms do this jokingly, and tbh the game needs to attract people way more than it needs a professional image right now. There are only 2 top teams, before giving them an image change a tournament needs to have at least 8 teams with somewhat comparable skill levels.
The replay rant from rambo was over the top, but it took a third party to make LoL into a competitive game because Riot promised and did not deliver, so his frustration is completely justified.
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On March 01 2011 14:28 locodoco wrote:
zzz real sad
Yo loco do you have the replays of your games from the 3rd party client?
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On March 01 2011 15:20 r33k wrote:Yo loco do you have the replays of your games from the 3rd party client?
i dont but oddone and chaox might ill ask them for u
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Why phreak is high elo despite being shit according to people in this thread:
From the official forums I find an explanation:
I did it on purpose. I saw him coming and threw the spells out. Like with the Vladimir spotlight dodging Sion stuns, they were intentional. Haven't checked the poll yet, but I'm sure there's plenty of, "lol luck noob" votes, but I'm really good at this game and on LAN ping. I'd be embarrassed not to be able to pull out moves like that.
I'm way worse than other top LoL players at map awareness and probably overall teamplay dynamics (which showed somewhat during the ESL cast on Sunday), but yeah, this is the type of stuff I'm good at
Everything is clear now.
TL:DR - Bold part.
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give lan ping please... --..
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It's weird that Phreak has poor map awareness considering he *was* a pro War3 player and caster back in the day...
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On March 02 2011 10:27 ArC_man wrote:
It's weird that Phreak has poor map awareness considering he *was* a pro War3 player and caster back in the day...
white people throw around the word pro so loosely
milkfat called himself pro sc,sc2,wc3,hon player
phreak calls himself pro warc3 player
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well Loco remember that we have two levels of pro
pro
and
Korean (which is obviously above pro)
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On March 02 2011 22:07 locodoco wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 10:27 ArC_man wrote:
It's weird that Phreak has poor map awareness considering he *was* a pro War3 player and caster back in the day... white people throw around the word pro so loosely milkfat called himself pro sc,sc2,wc3,hon player phreak calls himself pro warc3 player
I dunno about Milkfat but Phreak was on a sponsored War3 team which I hope would qualify him as being a "pro". It wasn't as well known as SK/4K/MyM since the US scene was small compared to the Euro scene but it was probably the strongest US team at that time (which is not saying much).
Anyways, my point was that I expected Phreak to cast much better because of his previous experience and not to dick around half the cast trying to show off by calculating what runes/masteries people started with.
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