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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 01 2011 01:04 GMT
#19341
8 as reds, 1 armpen, armor yellows, mr/lvl blues, armpen quints.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
July 01 2011 01:04 GMT
#19342
Are there any good Olaf players I can steal builds from?
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 01:07:57
July 01 2011 01:05 GMT
#19343
On July 01 2011 10:04 Two_DoWn wrote:
8 as reds, 1 armpen, armor yellows, mr/lvl blues, armpen quints.

Dumb question, it should.

Thanks alot bro.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 01 2011 01:09 GMT
#19344
On July 01 2011 10:04 ATeddyBear wrote:
Are there any good Olaf players I can steal builds from?

http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=550
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
July 01 2011 01:09 GMT
#19345
12 arpen and rest aspeed in reds/quints, armor yellows, mr/lvl blues is basically the standard jungler page.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 01:10:59
July 01 2011 01:10 GMT
#19346
Rollllledd lol

great way to start off your stream lol
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0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
July 01 2011 01:11 GMT
#19347
Smash, you should stream some AP
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
July 01 2011 01:11 GMT
#19348
No hotshot in the CLG NESL games, he's asleep lol.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 01:23:54
July 01 2011 01:23 GMT
#19349
lol I'm an idiot...
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 01 2011 01:29 GMT
#19350
On July 01 2011 09:42 emperorchampion wrote:
[image loading]

Top and bottom of screen cut off Smash

edit: just bottom I guess

I'm just gonna roll with that and say it's intentional so that I can blame all misplays on being OOM.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 01 2011 01:41 GMT
#19351
On July 01 2011 10:29 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 09:42 emperorchampion wrote:
[image loading]

Top and bottom of screen cut off Smash

edit: just bottom I guess

I'm just gonna roll with that and say it's intentional so that I can blame all misplays on being OOM.


[image loading]

Sorry guys what, there is a random black box...
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TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
July 01 2011 01:44 GMT
#19352
On July 01 2011 10:03 arb wrote:
Whats the standard Jungle page?

AS Reds
armor yellow
mr/l blues?

What about quints?

Would really like to know before i put IP towards it.


Most people I know run something along the lines of

arp reds
armor yellow
mr/l blues
arp quints

Attack speed reds are nice, but armor pen just makes the ganks that much more deadly for such little jungle time lost.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 01 2011 01:47 GMT
#19353
armpen reds arent worth it unless you have a pure physical damage ability jungle like olaf. Aspeed makes a bigger difference on jungle clear time and health than armpen, and you dont need an extra 3 damage when autoattacking on a gank to get a kill.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 01 2011 02:22 GMT
#19354
Mark choice for jungling depends on the champion. With WW you'll want AS because it synergizes with his passive and more importantly with Madred's later on; with Tiger Udyr you'll want flat AD because it helps both your autoattack and your tiger activation proc (which deals magic damage and doesn't benefit from arpen); with Amumu you'll want mpen because all his damage comes from spells anyway, and that way you get stronger ganks and more damage in teamfights.

If you just want something that'll work out okay on anyone... I'd prolly go with AS.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 01 2011 02:31 GMT
#19355
Janna, Ashe, Zilean, Amumu and Warwick (CLG) vs. Vayne, Annie, Vlad, Sona and Alistar (RS).

Grackis and the other guy casting were saying that RS had gone for an early game comp. and that they wanted to close out the game ASAP, whereas CLG had gone for a lategame composition. Which kind of surprised me, because I got the exact opposite impression- that CLG's comp. was early-game focused. Can anyone who knows more about this clear this up for me?
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 01 2011 02:35 GMT
#19356
RS is actually midgame focused whereas CLG probably is lategame yeah
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
July 01 2011 02:35 GMT
#19357
On July 01 2011 10:47 Two_DoWn wrote:
armpen reds arent worth it unless you have a pure physical damage ability jungle like olaf. Aspeed makes a bigger difference on jungle clear time and health than armpen, and you dont need an extra 3 damage when autoattacking on a gank to get a kill.


other way around, atk speed runes are only worth it if you have problems clearing the jungle otherwise, since they are useless runes past jungling
Brees on in
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 01 2011 02:39 GMT
#19358
On July 01 2011 11:31 Zato-1 wrote:
Janna, Ashe, Zilean, Amumu and Warwick (CLG) vs. Vayne, Annie, Vlad, Sona and Alistar (RS).

Grackis and the other guy casting were saying that RS had gone for an early game comp. and that they wanted to close out the game ASAP, whereas CLG had gone for a lategame composition. Which kind of surprised me, because I got the exact opposite impression- that CLG's comp. was early-game focused. Can anyone who knows more about this clear this up for me?

They were saying that CLG was more of the early game team. Since CLG had Janna and Zilean who is the support/ap champion. I thought RS was going to win it until that awkward tower dive. Then CLG was able to line up their Ashe arrow mummy stun ww ult combo.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 01 2011 02:40 GMT
#19359
On July 01 2011 11:35 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 10:47 Two_DoWn wrote:
armpen reds arent worth it unless you have a pure physical damage ability jungle like olaf. Aspeed makes a bigger difference on jungle clear time and health than armpen, and you dont need an extra 3 damage when autoattacking on a gank to get a kill.


other way around, atk speed runes are only worth it if you have problems clearing the jungle otherwise, since they are useless runes past jungling

Disagree. Most jungle champs synergize with aspeed (ghostblade, wriggles, triforce) and by the time you get past jungle most champs have started to buy armor, making the 25 armor pen fairly useless compared to an extra auto attack.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 01 2011 02:44 GMT
#19360
On July 01 2011 11:40 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 11:35 Brees wrote:
On July 01 2011 10:47 Two_DoWn wrote:
armpen reds arent worth it unless you have a pure physical damage ability jungle like olaf. Aspeed makes a bigger difference on jungle clear time and health than armpen, and you dont need an extra 3 damage when autoattacking on a gank to get a kill.


other way around, atk speed runes are only worth it if you have problems clearing the jungle otherwise, since they are useless runes past jungling

Disagree. Most jungle champs synergize with aspeed (ghostblade, wriggles, triforce) and by the time you get past jungle most champs have started to buy armor, making the 25 armor pen fairly useless compared to an extra auto attack.

???

Ghostblade or Triforce don't synergize with aspd at all, and wriggles synergizing with aspd is really far-fetched. 25 apen is never useless.
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