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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On May 24 2011 05:23 Mogwai wrote: Maokai is seriously very strong and has been since release... y does no 1 believe me? D= I have heard that Maokai and Rumble are kinda FotM on EU (haven't been playing on EU for like a month now so I don't know for sure). It does make sense as Rumble is so broken and Maokai works well against ranged AD + support although I have no idea if they lane him bottom or top. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On May 24 2011 06:15 spinesheath wrote: I have heard that Maokai and Rumble are kinda FotM on EU (haven't been playing on EU for like a month now so I don't know for sure). It does make sense as Rumble is so broken and Maokai works well against ranged AD + support although I have no idea if they lane him bottom or top. From what I saw so far Rumble solo top beats most of the common EU stuff, even Jarmans who get surprise buttsexed. I never saw someone go for Maokai as support bot and actually I recall seeing on over like the last 30 games at my ELO. (1500ish) Wouldn't call that FotM. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Maokai with lots of mana regen can farm so easily 1v2. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On May 24 2011 04:48 Mogwai wrote: Rygor's Jungle Morde is passable so we just need someone who can lanewick or duo LeBlanc... That shouldn't be too hard. Lanewick is so stupid easy even I can feel OP with it. Leblanc's only problem is landing E when needed. I play both too. SO IF YOU'RE IN NEED OF A 1200 ELO LANEWICK/LEBLANC I THINK YOU HAVE YOUR MAN. I don't even blame elo hell for why I'm stuck here! (I blame elo police and not enough welfare) | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On May 24 2011 06:30 spinesheath wrote: Not as support lol. Maokai + Roamer. Maokai with lots of mana regen can farm so easily 1v2. The only time I ever saw a roamer on EU was when I asked for someone who can 1n2 bot so I can roam janna (lovely guide btw <3). The drawback? People assume Garen or Renekton are good choices. The result? Farmed AD carry and dead Garen or Renekton. Personally when I'm in a situation where I need to 1n2 I'd pick Cho/Maokai over everything else. Maokai so great there. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
So far I have been curbstomping everyone (I'm at level 20 summoner level, no one follows guides or anything lol), and I am seriously considering buying him before he goes not-free. Also, why do we call Jarvan "Jarman" sometimes? | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:39 57 Corvette wrote: I've been using a guide off Solomid for Xin, starts off cloth + 5hp then goes wriggles, ghostblade, mercs, BC. So far I have been curbstomping everyone (I'm at level 20 summoner level, no one follows guides or anything lol), and I am seriously considering buying him before he goes not-free. They most likely do follow guides. And that's really sad. For every decent guide there probably are around 100 horrible guides. Or how else could you explain popular nonsense like rushing LW? Or rushing PD on champs that are not named Tryndamere? And then there seems to be a guide to intentionally feeding. No way all those retards were clever enough to realize that stacking movespeed allows you to feed more. We also have a pretty cool Xin guide on TL btw. | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
Also, why do we call Jarvan "Jarman" sometimes? Hm? Jarman is his name. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:47 spinesheath wrote: They most likely do follow guides. And that's really sad. For every decent guide there probably are around 100 horrible guides. Or how else could you explain popular nonsense like rushing LW? Or rushing PD on champs that are not named Tryndamere? And then there seems to be a guide to intentionally feeding. No way all those retards were clever enough to realize that stacking movespeed allows you to feed more. Jeeze. Thats sad that they are following guides and are still sucking as much as they do. Thing is, most opponents when I check their items, they are just going what is reccomended to them in the shop. Sometimes it is a good idea, sometimes it gets you gutted before your second item. And about the Xin guide, I saw it. I used that for my masteries. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
Time to reinstall? For the one billionth time? | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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EmeraldSparks
United States1451 Posts
I did ten or so games in a row with Tiamat Jarvan. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:39 57 Corvette wrote: I've been using a guide off Solomid for Xin, starts off cloth + 5hp then goes wriggles, ghostblade, mercs, BC. So far I have been curbstomping everyone (I'm at level 20 summoner level, no one follows guides or anything lol), and I am seriously considering buying him before he goes not-free. Also, why do we call Jarvan "Jarman" sometimes? That's kinda squishy. The better players get the more tanky you tend to have to build on melee, just be warned. Hybrid stuff like frozen mallet and wits end are great as well. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On May 24 2011 08:59 Slayer91 wrote: That's kinda squishy. The better players get the more tanky you tend to have to build on melee, just be warned. Hybrid stuff like frozen mallet and wits end are great as well. Yeah, it is pretty squishy. The last 2 items are usually armour items, Thornmail for AD opponents, FoN otherwise and Randuins round out the build. For the first majority of the game you are a glass cannon, but if you can make it to the defence items, you should have already won it since you carried your team. | ||
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Crazyspoon
United States50 Posts
On May 24 2011 07:39 57 Corvette wrote: I've been using a guide off Solomid for Xin, starts off cloth + 5hp then goes wriggles, ghostblade, mercs, BC. So far I have been curbstomping everyone (I'm at level 20 summoner level, no one follows guides or anything lol), and I am seriously considering buying him before he goes not-free. Also, why do we call Jarvan "Jarman" sometimes? I agree that building Jarvan squishy can really overwhelm easier opponents, but as said, needs to be tankier against better competition. Yours looks like a good build though; get away with as much damage as you can without dying! Also, Jarman is indeed his name. Your post inspired this thought + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bQLo1.jpg) Jarman's got a jar of di-irt, and guess what his build is... | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On May 24 2011 09:17 Crazyspoon wrote: I agree that building Jarvan squishy can really overwhelm easier opponents, but as said, needs to be tankier against better competition. Yours looks like a good build though; get away with as much damage as you can without dying! Also, Jarman is indeed his name. Your post inspired this thought + Show Spoiler + Jarman's got a jar of di-irt, and guess what his build is... Uhh, what I listed there was an Xin build. Might work for Jarv, but it is not tailored to him. | ||
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billy5000
United States865 Posts
Early game: I'm laning against shen (or any champion with teleport) at top. Other team does dragon, and we are fully aware of what's happening. Being extremely cautious, my laning opponent decides to teleport to dragon. I thought about pushing hard at top, maybe even destroy the turret. But that would mean that I wouldn't be able to farm consistently unless I buy wards, which wouldn't significantly prevent ganks when I'm well ahead of the river. :\ | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
On May 24 2011 09:54 billy5000 wrote: How would you react to this situation? Early game: I'm laning against shen (or any champion with teleport) at top. Other team does dragon, and we are fully aware of what's happening. Being extremely cautious, my laning opponent decides to teleport to dragon. I thought about pushing hard at top, maybe even destroy the turret. But that would mean that I wouldn't be able to farm consistently unless I buy wards, which wouldn't significantly prevent ganks when I'm well ahead of the river. :\ If you are laning top and they are at dragon, theres still going to be a large amount of time before they can be back there to stop you from killing their turret. I would give advice on what to do, but I don't know enough about strategy to say more than that. | ||
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
On May 24 2011 10:03 57 Corvette wrote: If you are laning top and they are at dragon, theres still going to be a large amount of time before they can be back there to stop you from killing their turret. I would give advice on what to do, but I don't know enough about strategy to say more than that. The obvious answer to what you should do, is push. If you push and take tower, you took a zone and you gave your team global gold and exp, which minimizes dragon adv for the present. The more passive choices in this situation maximize his dragon adv. If you just last hit while other team took drag, then you just minimized creep gold and creep exp he missed from being out of lane. If you pushed to tower, you deal tower damage to make it easier to destroy tower later and he misses a lot of creep gold and exp. He's pretty much asking what to do after you take a tower top, and are forced to go into unsafe territory to farm. Pretty much, after you take a zone, you are forced to roam for other objectives. If you picked a champion that has some roaming power, you have to roam other lanes and objectives and force fights and situations where you have a number advantage. If you're a farm dependant champion, then you pretty much have to force out one person from another lane to do the roaming while you take their lane to farm. If the enemy top has a global though, it's better to pressure the top side of the map and its objectives and try to win through fights where you have terrain advantage, than to try to force an uneven situation where the enemy can just use their global after pushing back top to make things 5v5. This takes a lot of coordination and game sense to execute well though. Another tip, wards give you vision over areas so after taking zones from towers, you need to ward to secure vision and zone control over certain areas. | ||
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